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If you only have one candidate from one party who can save democracy or else all falls into evil fascism, and you absolutely refuse to do anything to restrict your opponent’s candidate and party, you are a fascist
If half of your country is operated by the fascist party and the other party exists to capitulate to them, then you’re living in a fascist country.
Neither party really matters and it’s all theater. Everything is run by the rich and by the police when rubber meets the road. As we saw in 2020, passing legislation against the police does nothing and they ignore it. Laws mean nothing when they are not enforced or followed. The police cartel have a chokehold on USA, there’s no democracy whatsoever it’s a farce
Lol police laws in 2020 were about giving cops more money for “training” and recruitment. Some random towns here and there defunded them and conservatives make a big stink. But even Biden said he had no intention of cutting funding.
Some cities, such as Portland and Minneapolis, passed laws restricting the police in a multitude of ways. Made tear gas and non-lethal bullets illegal, made noise cannons and sonic weapons illegal, made it illegal to hit people with cop cars, made it illegal to abduct people in unmarked vans, etc.
None of these were followed in any way. The cops kept using these tactics and were never punished in any way. The legislation did nothing to change their behavior. That’s because the laws are a joke. Cops run the show, they are an organized cartel hundreds of thousands strong and they de facto run the country on the ground level.
Yes they literally tested gas people couldn’t even identify right? Like that orange shit? What was that, CN?
Not voting is also a vote for Trump sweaty
Biden received 81 million votes in 2020 which is about 28% of all Americans adults, meaning… 72% of USians are fascist MAGAts
“not voting is a vote for trump”
“not voting is a vote for biden”
“not voting is a vote for trump and biden, which is voter fraud”A vote for anyone that isn’t Trump is a vote for Biden. How dare you let down the God-Emporer Trump!
Voting for Hillary was a vote for a Trump
Throw away vote for a non viable candidate that could never win
Yes, America is a two party fascist state. It genuinely does not matter who I vote for for President, fascism is the only outcome. I can, occasionally, minimize the levels of fascism close to me when certain candidates win primaries near me, even though that is also pretty minimal, but it does have much more of a real impact than voting for President. Biden, in particular, has shown absolutely zero indications that he is better than Trump in policy.
Hasn’t Biden been better with the NLRB, and climate? He also did that big infrastructure bill, and pardoned people in jail on weed offences.
Like he’s been objectively better than trump on domestic policy. And I don’t see any reason to think trump would have cut funding to Israel.
What the fuck are you talking about about? He literally broke up the rail strike, invested in hydrogen infrastructure (a type of fuel that isn’t green and pretty much everyone has commerically abandoned) instead of building actual infrastructure such as trains or affordable housing, and only pardoned people with federal weed offenses, which accounts for less than 1% of all weed related convictions.
I’d argue that he has been worse for domestic politics because people have literally stopped paying attention to the bad shit the American government does domestically as naturally as breathing. He has increased the funding of the border from Trump, lost access to abortion for millions of women, opened up more oil drilling permits across the U.S. and has repeatedly fumbled on trans rights and COVID policy. Nothing has actually changed policy-wise, just optics.
I don’t think Trump would have cut funding to Israel, but that doesn’t mean I have to vote for either genocidal removed.
I keep looking into the primaries and the way that it looks to me they can just pick anybody regardless of the “votes.” Why would Primaries ever be the answer when we need to pick a good 3rd party and run it home?
Yeah primaries are certainly not the answer. I was specifically talking about local elections shit, but even that doesn’t work most of the time, these last couple of times I’ve had two complete shitbirds to vote for (even the so called ‘progressive’ candidate is a complete mess) and the progressive one shits the bed in the primaries and the establishment Dem candidate shits the bed in the general.
Joe Biden owes me $2000
If you believe that voters have a duty to candidates, rather than candidates having a duty to voters, then you do not really believe in democracy.
Even in the Roman republic they understood that the candidates had to bribe the people to care about the nobilities power struggles.
We don’t even have the gracchi equivalents to get murdered for promising us land reform. They ratfucked the moderate with offerings of college and healthcare.
Because that’s politics and libs are revolted by icky pedestrian politics. They don’t want a base that has to be satisfied, they want a coalition of the reasonable who vote for blue no matter who not because they’ll get anything out of it, but because the qualified people told them that’s what they have to do to have the respect of the qualified people.
a coalition of the reasonable
the qualified people
They want an oligarchy, plain and simple.
Functionally that’s what it ends up with, but I think their fantasy is a meritocracy/technocracy. That the people who went to the right schools with the right degrees, who got the right internships and then jobs at the right firms, with the democratic process as a coronation of that meritocracy rather than an expression of public will. A state run by an army of Buttigiegs.
Of course, the reality is that system produces more Trumps than Buttigiegs. Which is why he freaks liberals out; metaphorically speaking, he’s the inbred freak the aristocracy keeps hidden in the attic in some Victorian novel to keep up the illusion of their good breeding, and the libs are the other aristocrats scandalized that he got out and made a mess of the gala.
I don’t think it’s incidental, I think liberals have a deep elitism that drives them. They actively dislike democracy.
Certainly. That’s why populism is a dirty word to them. Why should the patricians sully themselves with the vulgar demands of the governed?
The liberal brainrot under Trump is going to be magnificent to watch. Fuck libs. Fuck their support of genocide. Fuck their support of child migrant cages. Fuck their nonchalance about universal healthcare and most of all fuck America.
They better deliver some primo drama, because the schadenfreude is some of the only consolation as terrible things continue happening under a slightly different guy.
Lol yeah but the real hope is people wake up to the flawed system and that genocide is not self defense (libs are fucking insane at this point).
I swear these fricks view people’s lives like it’s some sports game and then blame the people when they lose like embittered soccer hooligans.
What having no skin in the game does to a mf
This year I’m voting Democrat
How does these types react to answers politely scolding them for being counterproductive, like:
Voter shaming doesn’t work. It just makes you look like an asshole and makes your candidate look off-putting by association. If you want to do your party a favour, get them to run on a platform that people can support.
it only makes them angrier because it should work
try going into one of these threads and saying “I will absolutely vote for Biden, but…” and then make all the arguments we would normally make and they’ll still go fucking sicko on you
Should’ve gone with “My dude, I live in Alabama/California/Texas/New York/Wyoming/Hawaii/Oklahoma/Washington, my vote doesn’t matter anyways, so I’m going to vote for someone who isn’t trying to ethnically cleanse Gaza.”
You can now add florida to that list thanks to the unceremonious apathy of the Florida Democratic Party and their inability/disinterest in getting the DNC to fund them properly at all.
This doesn’t matter to them and you’ll be browbeaten and talked down to regardless. Every
counts and they want to be able to hold that meaningless popular vote up as proof that their choice was actually just cheated out of victory by the dastardly Electoral College.liberals plan not to lose challenge. rating: impossible
As someone who’s never step foot in the USA, I will not be voting for Biden.
I am sorry comrades for voting for Trump.
So the conclusion is that nothing good can ever happen because something worse could happen.
for the privileged and comfortable liberal, that makes sense to them. they’re fine, the important thing is “nothing will fundamentally change”
