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    It is honestly a major failure of US society (comedians I am looking at you) that people aren’t made fun of for driving these trucks so mercilessly that most people feel too ashamed to drive them.

    I mean lots of other failures too, it shouldn’t be legal especially because there is zero reason for the high hood height from a vehicle function perspective. Unless of course you consider your vehicle being more efficient at killing pedestrians a reason to have them that way. I suppose we have entered that stage of things here in the US haven’t we.

    • @[email protected]
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      Definitely. Builders and contractors in Europe drive vans; same as everyone else on the planet except the insecure yanks. If you pulled up to a site in one of these in any other country, I fuckin guarantee remarks will be made about your penis size and your penchant for the cock

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        There are plenty of things vans aren’t suitable for–towing fifth wheels or holding oversized power equipment, for instance. Nor are vans any better for visibility than the trucks on OP’s list. Many start as the same truck frames and then have a different body placed on top.

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          So you’re saying that contractors in other countries can’t do the same stuff that US contractors do, because they don’t have access to tiny-penis trucks?

          Because that’s what you’re saying

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            I’m saying they do have those trucks. You may not see them as much because these use cases tend to have them driven to a job site and then stay there until the work is done, which may be weeks or months.

            There are also some farming needs that Europe just doesn’t have. You can go for miles and still be on the same farm in the US. Sometimes, the land is rented and isn’t contiguously connected. Hauling equipment and livestock across all that is the job of a fifth wheel, and you can’t use a van for that.

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              Literally every livestock farmer owns one of these

              You’re just trying to justify your tiny-penis truck when there is zero justification for it whatsoever

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                I don’t own a truck. I do know people who do and have some familiarity with farm operations.

                That truck is not adaquate for the number of livestock or equipment an American farmer has. It would force multiple trips over dirt roads. Again, American farms are just plain bigger, and there might be a few changes that are needed to support that.

                Also, I’m not sure why you think that truck is better than any American truck. It simply swaps a bed for a box. Edit: I believe that’s a somewhat older model Man TGL, which has a GVWR of 7.5-12 tons. That puts it in the same ballpark as an F350, so again, I don’t know why you think this is an improvement.

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                  Also, I’m not sure why you think that truck is better than any American truck. It simply swaps a bed for a box.

                  Look at where the window of that cab is positioned. Is there anything in front of it blocking its view? It’s the same difference between an American and European semi-truck. The engine is under or behind the cab, so the view out of the front is unobstructed.

                  As for farming needs, US farmers used much smaller trucks for decades. These massive trucks are actually worse for many/most hauling needs. Consider how much extra effort it takes to load cargo into the bed when it’s 5’ up, rather than when it’s only 2’ or so off the ground. It’s just plain worse, except for making someone feel tough for some reason.

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            I am now genuinely curious as to the logistics at play for construction companies across the pond.

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            Depends on the model. Ford Transits are probably better, but an E250 is just an F250 with a different body, and isn’t any better.

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        I fuckin guarantee remarks will be made about your penis size and your penchant for the cock

        Every country on the planet other than the US will call someone gay for driving a large truck?

    • Ghostalmedia
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      72 years ago

      If you’re relying on comedians to save you, you might want to rethink your strategy.

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        I’m sorry if you’re short… The truck is the answer to the age old question, “How did the dinosaurs get so damn big!?” Initially they were really small lizards but then as soon as the truck showed up in the form of a truck-like dinosaur, then all dinosaurs started to evolve into taller dinosaurs if they survived… survival of the fittest they say.

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      Yeah but who cares what those nutjobs think?

      There’s nothing wrong with cars, especially when they’re backed by a good public transit system and plenty of pedestrian-only paths. It’s the trucks (edit: and SUVs) that are the problem.

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        The thing wrong with cars was the psyop the oil companies played on North Americans in the 50s that it was the ultimate symbol of freedom, before designing entire metropolises around them and causing everyone to have to sit in their car for 2 hours a day needlessly.

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        I’d argue there’s nothing wrong with trucks, either. Some folk have a legitimate use for them: fitting construction material and lumber in the back; towing a trailer.

        The problem is two fold, I figure: we’ve got a bunch of folk driving trucks (and SUVs) around that never have a legitimate use for them other than a status symbol. Then there’s the folk that have a partial need for them, but can’t afford to keep multiple vehicles around, so they’re stuck driving the truck they need a fraction of the time.

        I’m in the latter category. If i could reliably rent a truck to haul/tow with, I’d replace my family’s Tacoma with a sedan, and save a bunch of money in the process.

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    They know. And those vehicle owners like to bully people and other cars with that.

    Tax it hard like a luxury tax or vice tax.

    Call it a Bully Tax so that we can look at them for what they are.

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    It’s ok though, in about 30 years after 2 million children are dead, we’ll make a law that limits the height of hoods, effective 5 years from then.

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      We’ll also add exclusions for cars above a certain wheel well distance, which will only further incentivize carmakers to make bigger cars.

      /s but not really, because this is literally how emissions regulations work. Emissions regulations are less strict as wheel well distance increases, so larger cars can be less efficient. Which is why car makers have heavily pushed for larger cars via marketing, astroturfing, etc, because it means regulatory compliance is easier.

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      yeah. you really can’t, the cab over semi isn’t coming back. They were cold in winter, too hot in summer, uncomfortable and killed the drivers in a moose hit. Sure anything you hit with a semi dies anyways, but doesn’t so often take the driver too with a conventional.

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    A truck has to have a nose that looks like a big slab of concrete to oncoming traffic. If it doesn’t men will be forced to wear dresses, sing show tunes while sitting to pee. Thems the rules.

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    No shit? I forget where I saw the comparison but the length of the view that is blocked when being in a big ass truck is absolutely insane. There could be a gaggle of kids in front of you and you would never know until you hit them.

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      172 years ago

      Was seriously considering a pickup as my next car until my partner pointed me to similar research a while back.

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      They also seriously injure the people they do hit.

      A car tends to hit low and send people onto the hood. A truck hits high (head and torso injuries) and knocks people to the ground where they get run over.

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        I mentioned this is another comment, but the crazy thing is that’s the driver’s view from M1 Abrams. Typically, in hatches open operation you’d either have a Crew Commander (and/or gunner) standing with their torso out of the turret for better visibility (and a second set of eyes), or a ground guide watching where you go.

      • SeaJ
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        That’d be the one.

        On another note, I think your comment is causing the Boost app to crash. :/

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      Modern trucks have shitty visibility all the way around. I borrow my dad’s Colorado and my boss’s F-150 frequently and I always feel like I’m driving a school bus and feel like I can’t see shit. They have backup cameras but it’s not that great(and the idea that a backup camera should be required to operate a vehicle safely in the first place is abhorrent to me anyway). I never had any issues with my S10 back in the day and I could fit more shit in the bed.

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        There’s another extreme, when a friend of mine took me for a ride in a two-seat convertible BMW X2 it felt like I was barely above ground. When one of the SUVs was near us at a traffic light it felt like it was going to run over us without even noticing

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          it felt like it was going to run over us without even noticing

          Yeah that’s because they have shitty visibility. Also the reason I’ll never ride a motorcycle in traffic.

          • lad
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            Yeah, my friend noted exactly the same about visibility that time 😅

    • BlanketsWithSmallpox
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      There could be a gaggle of kids in front of you and you would never know until you hit them.

      Republicans: As long as they’re not white…