I asked it in question form because I was legitimately curious. Where do you plan to go while the world you leave behind devolves into an authoritarian hell? What other “modern western nation” would be left if Russia and/or China expands all the way across Europe as well as onto US Shores?

You don’t have a second life to flee to if the west fails to defend itself.

Yeah, remember, Hitler pressed kids and elderly men into fighting when the Red Army was marching on Berlin. Desperation leads to that kind of madness.

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This makes you sound like a suicidal fascist. I know that wasn’t your intention but I’d just like to point out that’s the second best kind, after dead ones.

I dont think China wants to make the first move. America is starting to create an uprising in the middle east right now by keeping israel’s genocide going which could be an actual catalyst. When America is busy elsewhere China will likely try to annex Taiwan.

Their support to Israel?

IANAL, but in this context, it means “disposed of,” or “abolished,” probably based on some usage involving “throwing [something] in the trash can,” just like one might say something was “binned” in the UK.

It can also mean “fired (from a job),” as in “Donny showed up to work drunk, so he got canned.”

During the Vietnam era, several people used the 1st Amendment to avoid getting drafted. To quote Wikipedia, “United States v. Seeger, 1965, ruled that a person can claim conscientious objector status based on religious study and conviction that has a similar position in that person’s life to the belief in God, without a concrete belief in God.[4] United States v. Welsh, five years later, ruled that a conscientious objector need have no religious belief at all.” Widespread opposition to the draft during the Vietnam era led to official termination of the draft system in 1973. Since 1980, adult males are again required to register for military service in case their country enters a state of war. But there is no real punishment for failing to sign up, and the country hasn’t officially been at war since 1945.

Edit: sorry I can’t get the quote to work and it’s late at night here. This’ll have to do.

It’s a somewhat informal “discarded.”

Hard to tell which part of my questions you’re answering.

But on one hand you wouldn’t be able to use them to compel the other people to come into the military because they’d already be in use.

On the other hand if China was actually serious about invading, those numbers are utterly insignificant. Hell, if they feel at the same percentage for their military, It would probably be bigger than our damn population.

Where do you think the “WW3” in this meme came from?

The only thing you hear about WW3 is from Russian propaganda. Because I guess we will have Russia, Iran and North Korea vs rest of the world war.

You are wrong because you don’t know what war they want to fight:

Anders Puck Nielsen - NATO-Russia war: Can it really happen?

And in the process, more of their neighbors have now joined NATO or are supporting NATO with newfound effort.

If Russia is dumb enough to do that, they’re dumb enough to fight NATO.

They didn’t plan to join NATO. Ukraine had a single digit percentage interest in NATO before crimea.

Russia doesn’t want Eastern European countries in NATO, because it makes it much harder to take them over.

NATO is a defensive alliance, and is no danger to Russia except for their imperialist goals. Best example of it is after Finland joined NATO Russia removed their troops from that border. That’s right Russia now has less troops there than they had when they were imaging Ukraine.

And one last thing: even if it was true, since when Russia can decide for sovereign nation who they form alliances with? The excuse to invade looks exactly as the same bullshit Nazi Germany invented with Poland (both claiming to save German minorities and also that was actually planning to invade Germany). They are not even original.

Question: If Russia has no intention of fighting NATO then why would they give a fuck if Georgia joined NATO? If they were afraid of NATO invasion, as silly as that is, could they not just offer Georgia a similar mutual defense agreement? I cannot imagine any circumstance other than overt greed and expansionism that would require them to invade Georgia.

If so, those were magnificent own goals. Ukraine wasn’t going to join nato until the little green men showed up, and Sweden and Finland didn’t want to join nato until the full scale invasion. Nato was languishing before all this happened, now they’re re-arming.

To prevent them from joining NATO.

This is exactly why those countries should join NATO.

Their plan isn’t to fight NATO directly. It’s to instigate domestic political support in foreign countries against entities like NATO and the EU, and push nationalism and isolationism and defeatism into enough people’s heads so that the bigger countries think it isn’t worth fighting Russia to defend another smaller country that is not their own. It’s about killing the idea of article 5 and thus NATO’s reason to exist, so that Russia can confront each country on a bilateral basis where they have the military advantage if no one is coming to their defense.

This probably wont happen with an assault on a major urban area, but little chunks of unpopulated Finland or Norway. How willing would the American public be to send pilots to die for Lapland? If the major powers blink and don’t feel like committing, Russia continues to escalate, like they’ve been doing for the past 15 years

Russia is not dumb enough

I hope you’re right, they’ve been huffing the “NATO will be easy to defeat” propaganda for as long as NATO has existed

Seeing downvotes to obvious statements shows how this platform is being dominated by Russian trolls.

Even this post, you think about it, looks like part of a disinformation campaign, trying to imply that Russian aggression on Ukraine is somehow the West’s fault. Like if they drove their tanks there to just say hello, and Ukraine only waited for it to trap them inside.

I mean, recruit the gen x to be the officers and the gen alpha gamers to pilot the combat androids and drones.

Ask Nicolae Ceaușescu what happens next.