Please stop me if this is not the appropriate place to speak of issues like this one.

I believe an introduction is due. I have been a Ubuntu user for a little more than a year now and while the whole ecosystem is fantastic and smooth to use, it boggles me that there’s still no app that can match the versatility and easiness in use that Musicbee provides. Strawberry pales in comparison, foobar2000 is clunky and clumsy, Rhythmbox is really without any option for control over your library… Even Tauon (the most complete music player I have found so far) becomes overly, uselessly complex in certain moments. What’s your take on this issue? What do you use for browsing, editing and playing your music collection? Is there any way we’ll ever see something like Musicbee on Linux distros?

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    2
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    when it comes to playing music, i use Amberol. it just queues up songs and plays them, it’s minimal but gets the job done. as for browsing my music collection, i just use my file manager (in my case, Nautilus). editing my tags is a bit trickier. Ear Tag does almost everything i need, but i still have to keep Ex Falso around for track number generation (i’m certain there’s a way to do it in Ear Tag, but i haven’t found it)

  • 🦊 OneRedFox 🦊
    link
    fedilink
    English
    12 years ago

    I still use Cantata even though development has ceased because I haven’t found anything else that I like. I think the general shift to streaming sites has been bad for desktop music players. By the way, does anyone know of an active fork? Would be greatly appreciated.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    52 years ago

    Linux programs tend not to be monolithic. The power is there but is often split across a few tools rather than being bundled into one. Beets is incredibly good for library management and there are a bunch of good players around, my favourite being mod + cantata. Cantata is not bad for browsing and managing as well, and it lets you set up custom actions so you can open an album in something like puddletag if you don’t want to deal with beets.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          English
          12 years ago

          The *NIX philosophy, that you describe, is having a bunch of small programs do specific tasks. Monolithic means having one large thing do all the tasks. Maybe the confusion comes from the fact that the Linux kernel is monolithic. They tried to make a FOSS Unix clone before Linux was a thing, but I think they failed (see GNU Hurd). What it means for a kernel to be monolithic or not, I have no idea… I assume the same, but on the kernel level.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            12 years ago

            I know what monolithic means. How does my post relate to the kernel? I have no idea what you’re on about.

  • Celmfire
    link
    fedilink
    22 years ago

    What about JRiver? It’s cross platform and as far as I know (I don’t personally use either) it does everything that musicbee does?

  • ayla [she/her]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    62 years ago

    It’s been a while since I used it, but my choice on Linux was always Quod Libet, which is a smidge barebones but also really powerful (especially with tagging).

  • Dr. Wesker
    link
    fedilink
    English
    52 years ago

    I’m a terminal masochist, so I use fzf combined with mpv.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    22 years ago

    This is question for each and every open source software ever.

    Making new stuff is fun. Polishing it to the point where no one will have problem with it, those last 5-most-boring-percents, is soul sucking.

    Do you want music player that someone enjoyed making it? Or you want one where someone that was bored doing it and you don’t even know who that is? (this is first time i heard of musicbee, maybe they had fun and were enjoying making it, but i couldn’t find any name attached to that software. is it just one guy or multiple teams?)

    Even if it wasn’t true for musicbee, it is true for most software out there.

    • amio
      link
      fedilink
      22 years ago

      I just want a good one. I am a dev myself and can empathize, but still.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    5
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    This needs mpd, tofi, and a nerdfont installed. I bind it to super+m and lets me search and play one album. Nothing else.

    #!/bin/bash
    menu="tofi"
    
    # create menu items
    albumartists=$( mpc list albumartist )
    while IFS= read -r albumartist; do
        albums=$( mpc list album Artist "$albumartist" )
        while IFS= read -r album; do
            if [[ -n "$album" ]]; then
                artist_album_list+="$albumartist 󰎈 $album\n"
            fi
        done <<< "$albums"
    done <<< "$albumartists"
    
    # offer prompt
    selection=$( echo -e "${artist_album_list[@]}" | \
        $menu )
    
    # extract sel_album and sel_albumartist 
    sel_album=$( echo "${selection#*󰎈}" | xargs )
    sel_albumartist=$( echo "${selection%󰎈*} " | xargs )
    
    # echo $sel_album # testing purposes
    # echo $sel_albumartist
    
    # play
    mpc clear
    mpc findadd artist "$sel_albumartist" album "$sel_album"
    mpc play
    
  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    32 years ago

    I use quod libet daily and prefer it over musicbee, it’s got a neat and simple ui with nice plugins

  • Korthrun
    link
    fedilink
    English
    17
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    My take on this issue is that this sounds like a Musicbee promotion :p

    How can a player that allows you to almost completely design your own UI be “clunky and clumsy”? foobar2000 can be anything from an unscrollable auto-generated playlist of “odd numbered tracks in the deathmetal genre” showing only “stop” and “play” buttons, to a dynamic / responsive UI that auto-scrolls song lyrics in time with the song that’s playing.

    If you don’t like it, you don’t like it and that’s fine. Reading “clumsy” and “clunky” used to describe foobar2000 make me wonder what your approach to evaluating music players even is though.

    Take this as a suggestion to give foobar2000 a little more time/effort. If you just aren’t into that though, I’d say Clementine is pretty solid.

    If you add an edit to your post listing out your requirements, dealbreakers, and maybe giving a little detail on what you didn’t like about the players you listed, you’ll probably get responses that are more helpful :D

    • amio
      link
      fedilink
      92 years ago

      As a general rule of software, anything that is extremely customizable does tend to require more legwork to make it work for you. foobar2000 is nice, but it’s hardly polished from a UI perspective. Learning curves and customization get clunky in a hurry.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        1
        edit-2
        2 years ago

        foobar2000 is the emacs of music players.

        I still use the Windows version on Linux and my Mac. There is no replacing it.

        That said, I do not think it is too hard for the average person to get a good usable UI with foobar2000, as long as they don’t mind the retro Windows UI style (this is a positive in my book). The DUI editor is pretty intuitive after you spend about 20 minutes plaing around with the sandbox. Foobar2000 2.0 added support for dark mode in Windows which looks really nice, but can be messy if you use any components that haven’t also been updated to support it.

    • iagomagoOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      42 years ago

      Ahahah, alright I get it, but I’m no way sponsored by the one guy who built the software XD. But to answer seriously to your questions: the thing I loved about Musicbee was the ability to easily edit metadata of large collections of files seamlessly to a degree of precision and intuitiveness that, to me, feels unmatched. The integrated sound converter allows for compressing on the go. The UI is smooth and modern. The way it easily processed the addition of new files to the collection. It’s just a lot of little things which I keep on finding here or there with every new software that I try, but never all of them together, bundled into a simple package like MB. I know that foobar is considered to be just as versatile; but to set it up to work as nicely out of the box like Musicbee requires an investment in time and knowledge I don’t really have.