He can’t even win a war with a crossword puzzle.
Watching Kimmel’s monologue from yesterday-
The same people who believe Joe Biden has dementia and needs Kamala Harris to feed him butterscotch tapioca every night also believe that he has somehow planned and executed a diabolicalically brilliant scheme to fix the NFL playoffs so the biggest pop star in the world can pop up on the jumbotron during the Superbowl in between a Kia and a Tostitos commercial to hypnotize her 11-year-old fans into voting for Joe Biden.
So weak you can crush them, so strong you’re terrified.
It’s the Fascist™ way!
My friends dad who had spent his entire life as a staunch republican like Reagan style came to her and said “who do you want me to vote for, you are going to be here I wont”.
I hope this perspective shift happens with all boomers.
spent his entire life as a staunch republican like Reagan style
TBF his perspective hasn’t changed that much. It’s his party that has abandoned him.
Thats fair!
Reminds me of my grandfather who was one of those “Voted for Eisenhower 'cause Lincoln won the war” types according to my dad. He voted straight Republican in every election until 2004.
See, the Bush campaign started handing out Purple Heart Band Aids as part of the swiftboating of John Kerry. My grandfather, who had earned a Purple Heart and delivered one to his dead friend’s parents, didn’t appreciate the joke, and voted Democrat for the rest of his life.
Love the John Prine line!
Ray-gun was a Trump precursor. It was Bush Sr. that took a step back from the brink and went back to just being an awful jackass.
Yup. All of the problems in the US are basically a game of “6 degrees from Reagan”
deleted by creator
Out of the two of these people only one is actually a billionaire :)
That’s gotta chap his orange ass
deleted by creator
You know what? It’s kinda nice that it may come down to mainstream culture to bring this poison down. It just highlights how different our culture is from our politics. I’m not sure I have point.
deleted by creator
and it’s well made
I’d say it is now that you helped.
Don’t forget abortion.
deleted by creator
I’m sure there’s a blank space for it.
It would not be crazy if that was the top of the list, that should be a deciding factor, which is what will make it crazy when instead the things that push people over the edge are TayTay and her friend Mary Jane.
And the only reason Taylor Swift got involved is because the crazies started saying she was, with no evidence, until she felt pressured to speak out
Taylor Swift for presidentress! 😅
Lmfao she’s got no experience but might actually do a better job.
Couldn’t be worse then Trump.
That’s what I thought about George W. Bush once.
Since that time I’ve learned that I lack imagination.
For the purpose of this discussion, let’s take her lack of political experience off the table entirely.
I’m not a fan of her music by any stretch of the imagination, but she’s got to one of the hardest working people in the industry with some of the best people working for her. In other words, she’s everything Trump pretends to be, but for real.
She is LEGITIMATELY massively successful and became so while intentionally staying out of politics. She’s a real version of everything the MAGA goons pretended made Trump a qualified candidate: an outsider who has their own money and is therefore immune to lobbying and/or corruption.
So by MAGA’s own metric, she’s ABSOLUTELY qualified for the position.
Can she and AOC tag-team it?
I would watch that.
I think most would be down to watch AOC and Tay-Tay tag-team just about anything
I also want to see those two together.
You and several billion others would weep with joy while we all did so. Hell, if that’s how we save the species? Mmf. 🤌🏼✨ Poetry.
#🦶🦶—👀
Don’t be a creep, thanks 🤗
Everyone wants Taylor Swift to enter the political fray but I’d be a little wary if you value democracy. Swifties have a charismatic leader, are very organized, and everyone one of them likes to make five year plans and let 100 flowers bloom. We’ve seen that combination before and it got very messy for a few years.
I’m not following what you’re getting at. Are you suggesting that Taylor Swift is going to run for president?
No. I was suggesting she’s going to lead an army of Swifties and seize power after a violent civil war and become America’s version of Mao Zedong. Communist parties tend to make 5 year-plans. And when Mao came to power, he originally talked about “letting 100 flowers bloom” as a reference to allowing dissent and alternative ideas. That only lasted a couple of years before a crackdown (and then, after that, some much much worse events).
Comparing Taylor Swift to Mao.
Okay.
Don’t worry, it wasn’t a sincere comparison.
I don’t want Swift to be an actual candidate or anything, but I am amused that Trump picked this fight.
Frank Herbert has entered the chat.
They call her Reverend Mother Taylor Swift
I see a holy war spreading across the universe like unquenchable fire.
Fans who caused seismic activity in Seattle versus septuagenarian overly impressed with himself is going to be the best fight.
Wow.
Not to mention her fans broke Live Nation. A website supposedly robust enough to handle ticket sales virtually every major live event every day in the entire nation. And they broke it so badly that congress got involved.
Yeah but I’m sure she was paying those people more than Trump was to show up at her event, right? What, she didn’t pay them anything unless they were working the event?
Well, it’s not hard to attract people to a free concert. Huh? It wasn’t free? More people were willing to pay how much to see her than were willing to be paid by Trump to see him?
The difference between Swift and Trump is that Taylor understands she needs to give back to her fans, in music and performances. Trump just sees his fans as providing something for him, their money in donations and ego boosts.
“Donald Trump and his far-right ‘holy war’ against Taylor Swift could cost him the next presidential election.”
News from a completely normal and not broken at all timeline. Imagine reading that sentence to someone 10 years ago.
10 years ago was still 2 years left in the final Obama administration. Add on just a bit more to really drive those 2014 people crazy:
“After an unsuccessful violent insurrection to stay in the White House after being voted out, Donald Trump and his far-right ‘holy war’ against Taylor Swift could cost him the next presidential election.”
We’re about 80% of the way to Idiocracy.
That’s being generous…
We’re past Idiocracy. President Camacho listened to the smartest person in the room. Trump thinks he is the smartest person in the room.
Trump knows he’s not the smartest person in the room. Trump wants to claim to be the smartest person in the room, and enjoys watching nobody correct him. That makes him feel like the most powerful person in the room. He doesn’t care who the smartest is, as long as he gets to claim it and all the credit for everything smarter people do near him.
Nitpick: He’s gone on record as saying he doesn’t hire people who he thinks is smarter than he is.
That’s part of the kink. He says that so that smart people who want to work for him will tell him they think he is smarter than they are. It’s a power move. Like the handshake thing.
After I got out of a relationship with a malignant narcissist, I realized that everything they do and say is a power move. They live in a world without objective reality. They cannot tell the truth because they function for a delusion. While you are thinking that you’re having a conversation sharing ideas, they’re observing you up and down to measure your strengths, weaknesses, social power, and threat to their social power. They listen intently to create a character they will present to you so that you enmesh with them. They run little secret experiments to learn how you react to things. Once they’ve figured you out, you’re going to have a bad time. The sad thing is that underlying all this, is that they feel deeply insecure. They confuse envy for love. The more of an asshole a malignant narcissist is, the more they’re telling the world they’re insecure because the more they want people to envy them, which means the more they need love in their delusional world. Trump is extraordinarily insecure.
When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
who has ‘pop star saves democracy’ on their bingo card?
Isn’t that the plot from half a dozen 1980s movies?
Shit. Is she actually Kevin fucking Bacon‽
I feel like this was a Jem and the Holograms episode.
“Truly Outrageous!”
I feel like that headline would be completely normal during the 80s satanic witch hunt.
I think they’d be confused about why a real estate celebrity is going after a 1 year old girl but yeah not too far off
deleted by creator
Swift’s US adult fan base … is unafraid to “go low”
The fan base is very large and in any group of that size there are going to be enough people willing to “go low” to form a mob. That doesn’t mean that the average Swift fan is more willing to “go low” than the average person who isn’t her fan. (I’m pretty sure that the average Swift fan is less willing to “go low” than the average Trump supporter.)
I doubt the average Swiftie is willing to decapitate a family member, yes
[sure, that guy is seriously mentally ill but it’s a very low bar for those people]
She can run for office next time.
What a fucking stupid title - Swifties?
I am becoming less of a fan of our species… Just idiots as far as the eye can see.
As a Trekkie, I find the term ‘Swiftie’ to be cultural appropriation!
I guess you wouldn’t be happy to know that fans of MST3K are known as “Misties”
As a MSTie as well, I am very happy about that. Anyway, MST3K is all about appropriating other people’s work!
deleted by creator
In case you don’t know, they’ve been doing a livestream of episodes on Twitch and YouTube since before Christmas, mixed with some RiffTrax and Cinematic Titanic! I’ve had it on in the background for weeks.
Thank you, I do know! I’m very active on the MST3K forums. I tune in to the livestream once in a while, but we also have group watches on Fridays which mostly scratches that itch for me… I’m just hoping Joel makes some sort of announcement about where the show is going now that the crowdfunder has failed, but he’s been quiet about it and some other Alternaversal staff seem to have left their jobs or have been fired, so I’m kind of worried. That said, 13 seasons of any show is pretty incredible.
What rock have you been living under to not know that phrase?
It wasn’t Bill & Ted but actually Ms. Swift that might unite and save the future. What a timeline.
After 8 years of whatever Democrats claim they’re doing, Donald Trump may have finally encountered opponents who are interested in fighting back.
Yeah, Democrats think this is what fighting back looks like.
You’d prefer civil war and your own brand of fascism instead or Democracy?
You would prefer [strawman]?
If you’re going to argue with me, argue with me, not the fictional version of me you’ve constructed.
Donald Trump is by definition a demagogue and proto-fascist. Given the opportunity, and using the document the GOP drafted entitled “Project 2025”, we can see that a 2nd Trump administration would dismantle the system of checks and balances that provide equality across the 3 branches of government in favor of a unilateral (authoritarian) executive branch. So it’s not a strawman, it’s what the GOP has announced they’ll do in 2025 should Trump retake the WH.
Then maybe Democrats should actually fight against it, like I said, instead of making a huge deal about half-assed efforts.
None of that means I want Republicans to win or accomplish their goals. Now point to something else Republicans want and baselessly accuse me of wanting it too because I don’t buy your apologia for Democrats’ deliberate uselessness.
I really, really want the history books to say that Taylor Swift was responsible for Trump losing by a landslide.
It’s oddly fitting for this cursed timeline
You’re right, it fits all too well. I’m not currently really a Taylor Swift fan but I would buy every album if she did that
The real plot 🤪