Rules:
*You can teleport into and out of it at will
*It has a couple of plug sockets and can connect to internet from the region you teleported in from
*You can take objects and people with you
*As already stated, it is (3m)^3 (3m*3m*3m). The walls are plain plaster with a light in the middle of the ceiling. The pocket dimension is topologically toroidal, so if there weren’t walls and a ceiling/floor (which you can actually destroy) you would loop if you went more than 3m in any direction. Gravity, then, is artificial and can be altered to anywhere from 0 to 2g from a dial on the wall.
Edit: additional specifications
*You can only teleport out to where you teleported in from.
*Time proceeds at the same rate inside the pocket dimension
*There is an eject button for those inside to get out if something happens to you
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I think I’d probably pack a bed, TV, microwave, and mini fridge into it and go travel and see a bunch of the world without worrying about lodging. I could also use it at work to eliminate my commute and save myself the high rent of living in Northern Virginia lol.
This isn’t allowed according to OP. To paraphrase “you can teleport back to where you teleported in”Edit: this is incorrect. I misunderstood.
Think thats what they meant. Just use it as there home. At work then teleport to there space then back to work. When traveling the normal way just use it for sleeping. Basicly taking your home with you.
Ah that makes sense now. Appreciate you adding the much needed clarity for me.
Don’t see how his use would violate that?
Think of it like a portable hotel room with no bathroom. You can travel wherever while outside the room and when it’s time to turn in you just use the room.
He’s also saying that he would not need to commute as in his home is close to work without having to worry about the high rent in the area where his work is.
Ah that makes sense now. Appreciate you adding the much needed clarity for me.
you could just bring a sleeping bag and a ground mat…
Why do that when my bed is so much more comfortable?
in order to:
see a bunch of the world without worrying about lodging
And you can masturbate without annoying the coworkers who never seem to leave their workplace.
A) it’s not always safe to sleep outside when travelling
B) it’s not always legal to sleep where you are
So by taking your own bed in the pocket dimension, you’ll always have a safe, comfortable and legal place to stay without any cost
i’ve done it quite a bit…
Good for you. I have too… That doesn’t mean it’s safe or legal everywhere and doesn’t give any reason why turning it into a portable bedroom is a bad idea
i did not say that was a bad idea
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My feeble American brain can’t comphrened the concept of safe, free, private housing.
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Same! I would also cram a small server and ton of tools into it so i would have a portable hackerspace.
break top
break bottom
insert shit ton of rocks
set gravity to 2g for faster gravitational acceleration
I have acquired rocks that can keep falling and build up velocity forever.
live life as usual; when I’m old enough to near death, aim for anywhere within the planet with said rocks.
Assuming I fill the 3x3x3 box half to half with sandstone and air; its weight will be 33kg.
If I live for 70 years more, assuming the gravitational acceleration is 19.72 m/s^2; I can generate stones that can go up to 156.8 billion km/s (or 145 times the speed of light)
Using the kinetic energy formula; I’m pretty sure unleashing this anywhere will be enough to destroy a huge chunk of the existing universe and in the end I’ll be the person to go out of the world with the biggest bang.
Well, specifics about the big bang is not known; but I’ll be its closest contender if it is correct.
They wouldn’t go faster than terminal velocity if you keep air in the chamber, and even if you remove it, they won’t go faster than c. They’ll still go pretty fast, though.
Keeping the air was a mistake but I don’t see why it wouldn’t be able to go faster than c.
Velocity changes how time works. The faster you go, the slower it happens.
According to special relativity, the energy of an object with rest mass m and speed v is given by γmc2, where γ is the Lorentz factor defined above^1. […] The γ factor approaches infinity as v approaches c, and it would take an infinite amount of energy to accelerate an object with mass to the speed of light. The speed of light is the upper limit for the speeds of objects with positive rest mass[…] This is experimentally established in many tests of relativistic energy and momentum.
More generally, it is impossible for signals or energy to travel faster than c. One argument for this follows from the counter-intuitive implication of special relativity known as the relativity of simultaneity. If the spatial distance between two events A and B is greater than the time interval between them multiplied by c then there are frames of reference in which A precedes B, others in which B precedes A, and others in which they are simultaneous. As a result, if something were travelling faster than c relative to an inertial frame of reference, it would be travelling backwards in time relative to another frame, and causality would be violated. In such a frame of reference, an “effect” could be observed before its “cause”. Such a violation of causality has never been recorded, and would lead to paradoxes such as the tachyonic antitelephone.
1 γ = (1 − v2/c2)−1/2
Hmmmmmmmm, now, how much energy does the box have to generate that constant 2g of acceleration? In this hypothetical the box appears to have an infinite amount of energy to generate that force though…
Yes it seems to have infinite energy but the throughput is limited to 2g of acceleration, unless you give it infinite time as well it will not reach c, though it would approach it.
Doing some calculation the final speed of 33kg, falling in 2g, for 70 years, without friction is “only” 99.77% the speed of light.
Edit: Forgot to convert the 0.9977c to percent.
What about quantum entanglement sending a signal faster than light?
(I’m just some schmo who watched an extra credit history series on quantum computing, so there’s every chance in the world that I don’t have it right. )
While the entanglement “signal” is near instantaneous, for various reasons no meaningful information can be deciphered faster than C.
Assuming our quantum theory, while not complete, is not wrong. We will not be able to engineer our way around this limit. A lot of funky shit becomes possible if you can break causality even with “just” information.
I thought the reason quantum theory is so controversial is because it does break causality. Like, currently we can’t decipher it, but is that supposed to be a permanent state- that quantum information is indecipherable until it would no longer transmit information faster than light?
Quantum theory is only “controversial” to the general public, mainly because we haven’t found a way to explain in simple terms things like superposition, entanglement, quantum tunneling. Quantum theory is spectacularly successful, though incomplete.
Even the “simple” stuff like the uncertainty principle takes a detailed understanding to properly grasp why there are pairs of properties that are inherently linked, and that information about one dictates how much you can know about the other. e.g. position/momentum and energy/time.
You can transmit something, but it has a noise added to it. To decode it, you need to send the readings to the other end, via normal means. Basically, the receiver can tell, in hindsight, that a message was sent, but only once its other half has been received via normal means. The best you can do is get a timestamp of when the message was sent, as well as a message channel that is impossible to intercept.
The problem comes when QM meets relativity. With instant communication, you can send information into its own past. E.g. A and B are 2 planets. C is a ship, passing planet B at relativistic speeds. Planet A sends a message to B, over the FTL link. B then sends it to C, over a normal link. C, finally sends it back to A over FTL. Due to the ‘tilt’ of C’s light cone, the “now” of A-C is behind the “now” of A-B. This allows for paradoxical situations. The maths of Relativity implies that you can’t form a closed time loop like this. Such behaviours tend to imply some deeper rule, even if we haven’t found its cause yet.
Quantum mechanics has a lot of strangeness. It also seems to play fast, but not loose with causality. E.g. objects can move backwards in time, but still obey causality. Others can be smeared over time space, but still collapse to a causality obeying state. Etc
I might be wrong, but iirc quantum theory just straight up doesn’t give a shit about causality. Where everything else requires the cause to be observable before effect (something travelling faster than light would result in effect being potentially observed before cause), quantum theory says, “why does the universe give a fuck whether or not we can see it? If it happened, it happened, regardless of whether or not we observed cause before or after effect.”
Basically as far as we can tell there there is no information traveling at FTL speed so it just works? All information that is traveling is just as fast as c or slower.
“Certain phenomena in quantum mechanics, such as quantum entanglement, might give the superficial impression of allowing communication of information faster than light. According to the no-communication theorem these phenomena do not allow true communication; they only let two observers in different locations see the same system simultaneously, without any way of controlling what either sees.” link
“In physics, the no-communication theorem or no-signaling principle is a no-go theorem from quantum information theory which states that, during measurement of an entangled quantum state, it is not possible for one observer, by making a measurement of a subsystem of the total state, to communicate information to another observer.” link
Thank you for this, by the way. I was thinking of the two entangled electrons as communicating with each other, rather than people communicating with each other through the entangled electrons, which I think makes a difference, because it doesn’t rely on interpretation, but obviously we can’t measure how or if electrons “communicate.” Is it correct that one of the limitations is in interpretation or am I reading this wrong?
Well, yes. We don’t know if the measurement we take is the result of a wave form collapse (we caused it) or the result of someone else having measured it, which would giving us the oposite value that they measured. We can’t tell if someone “sent” information or if it was the random result and we have no way to chose what value we (or the other end) gets when we collapse it.
This isn’t easy to explain over text so I’d recommend watching this video, specifically chapter “How to exploit?” as the visuals make it easier to understand.
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I don’t think the drag force due to air would work the same in a system with such a high concentration of rocks. It’s not like one object falling through undisturbed fluid, which then has to get out of the way, in this case the air would gradually start to move along with the rocks.
This might be better modelled as turbulent flow of a mixed solid/air suspension. But there’s no ‘edges’ to the flow due to the looped dimension, so the viscous forces are pretty uniform… There would still be a terminal velocity, but much much higher than a rock falling through an atmosphere
Also I imagine the rocks would quickly grind themselves to very fine dust, once they pick up a bit of kinetic energy, so then it would behave more like a fluid with uniform density… Could it even end up as laminar flow?
i don’t think they would grind themselves to dust, as they’re all moving in the same direction therefore their reaktive Velocity compared to each other would be (near) 0, not giving them much energy
It’s a really interesting question, I would love it if someone who understands this kind of physics properly would chime in!
By my understanding of Reynolds number etc, the faster they go, the more turbulent the flow, so the rocks would be constantly hitting against each other sideways, and surely grind to dust in the constantly accelerating scenario.
But maybe the infinite (looped) nature of this ‘dimension’ means that this logic doesn’t apply. What would even be the ‘characteristic length’? Are we thinking about established flow at the centre of an infinitely wide pipe? Am I wrong to think of constantly accelerating rocks with air in between as a type of fluid flow?
No I think you’re right about the fluid dynamics aspect, as we do have an indefinitely long pipe, but in the prompt the walls do still exist, so they’ll probably do create some friction. The question is, would the rocks build up some sort of boundary layer of slower flowing particles near the wall, and how much do the boundary layer and “main” center flow mix?
Thinking about it, it isn’t even an indefinitely long pipe really, as there are no “new” sections of wall coming up, instead it’s constantly passing the same section of wall, and same section of boundary layer…
If someone knows how to simulate this in a physics engine or virtual air tunnel I’d be really interested in that!
I guess I was imagining it with the walls torn out as well, but you’re right the op (of this comment chain) said top and bottom broken. If the walls are somehow firmly fixed forever no matter how much force they experience, and are not subject to thermal degradation, then we have a square pipe with 3m sides and infinite length. If the walls break down then it’s also infinite diameter.
In terms of modelling it there’s a FOSS option openfoam.org but I don’t know how to use it and don’t have time to mess about with it right now.
You can’t pull things out of the pocket without going in there first, which would be deadly in your situation. (OP says you can go in and out, and you can take things with you.)
There is an eject button for those inside to get out if something happens to you
In this case, when i die; the button will immeadiately get summoned inside the box only to be presssed an instant later
How would it be pressed? Wouldn’t anything entering the box at that point be akin to pushing a toothpick into a sanding belt?
A half room full of sandstone is 33kg? 27m³ room filled half with sandstone? By my calculation it’s more like 31,400 kg
whoops, I mistook 1 m³ as 100 cm³
I’d use it as a jizz shoebox but bigger. Since you can accelerate things inside if it, you can make my 27m^3 jizz flow at terminal velocity and then I can
Boy, oh boy, I Just finished reading the comment above about why the pocket dimension of falling rocks wouldn’t reach the speed of light using real physics explanations.
And then this guy wants to cum in it.
The Internet really does have everything.
Rent it out. Think of the passive income
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Thievery and smuggling, perfectly designed for that.
Water? I want a personal bathroom.
No, sorry. I mean, you can bring in a tank of water if you want, or even make the whole pakve underwater, but there’s no plumbing.
Mini portals for electricity and internet but not water and sewage? Cheapskate!
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So… Like a Pokeball for humans? 🤔
The archivist inside of me thinks it’s a good idea to make this the control room of the beIN headquarters, because I know a television channel of theirs that has a hell of a lot of lost media. I think Al Jazeera slapped their name on this channel (but it’s not related to journalism, I promise) back when they used to own it, and they made a lot of great shows (and had great branding), but there’s very few archives of what they actually made.
So, in a way or another, I’d be the one responsible for leaking their assets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeem_TV?wprov=sfla1 is what I mean by that television channel I’m talking about.
Okay, after reading the comments I have determined that this is a magic pocket dimension, not a sci-fi pocket dimension. That’s important. Sci-fi pocket dimension gas too many restrictions, but OP has been kind enough to gift us a magic pocket dimension. If I pop in on a flight, I don’t fall to my death when I leave.
So, I set it up as a space for living in tight quarters. Like an RV, I guess. I make sure it has some exercise equipment, and I give it to my mom to use. She’s disabled, and can’t move a lot under normal conditions, and for reasons I won’t go into, also can’t do aqua therapy anymore. Low g exercise could help her, and we could slowly increase the gravity. Eventually, she could be healthy enough for surgeries that could get her to a better standard of life.
Book cheap flights, cruises, et cetera. Teleport into the room, and back out at the end. Travel the world. If possible, teleport my mom in whenever somewhere is not wheelchair accessible, and then back out once we’ve passed that point.
Make money to support the travel lifestyle by being a magician, or smuggler. Whenever possible use the pocket dimension to help people escape bad situations. Teleport in someone while in my car, drive to safety, teleport out. They’re coming out relative to the vehicle, not the vehicle’s position. Excellent for helping refugees, domestic violence victims, et cetera.
If I can teleport in and out of it at will, does it have to be the same place I teleported from?
Okay, first things first, this talk of making it my living space? Nix that. That works well enough for a single person eating microwave dinners, but I like cooking and having people over. But travel? Yeah, that would be awesome. I’m thinking:
- Bunk beds
- Desk with a computer
- Very efficient use of shelving
- Fridge, hot plate
My only concern then becomes a toilet and shower. I guess you could move water in, but the water pressure is going to be crap.
Actually, you could drill a hole in the floor and have water continuously accelerate to get incredible water pressure.
Now you’re thinking with portals
I suppose then you have the opposite problem. Death by infinite water pressure.
I’d probably use it as having a lot of extra portable storage space, so it’d probably get filled up with a bunch of junk real fast. also I’d have the coolest battery pack
Minecraft pockets!
New Cable storage solution!
Can I take one end of a cable with me?
What’s the max power I can get from the sockets?
Where does the eject button dump people and can it be set to dump things other than people as well?
Does time continue inside the pocket dimension if no one is inside?
What’s the internal temperature/humidity? Is it regulated?
Can I choose what I take with me, or is it just everything im wearing/carrying?
Questions aside, I would fill it with all sorts of stuff that I might need at some point, but leave enough space for a bed and a desk.
You can take half a cable , just cut it .
spend my entire life trying to fill it with poop
and piss
With Poop alone it might be difficult - It would take around 200-400 years to fill that with poop alone, so it’s more of a multi-generational project.
But if you also use urine it’s much faster - Urin alone is doable in 42 years for the average human.
thanks yeah that sounds good
Sounds like that compact machines Minecraft mod
