Screen sharing is fine, handled by Pipewire. OBS is adding (has added?) streaming through Pipewire too. And I’ve had no issues getting screenshots using grim, which isn’t tied to a specific compositor. Not everything is copacetic, but the things you’re talking about are mostly non-issues these days.

Great name, btw

Screen sharing is different thing, there is no fragmentation there.

But in order to take screenshot I had to write different code:

For Gnome.

For KDE. It also requires special line in desktop file for security reasons.

For all other DEs.

Global shortcuts are even worse. It also DE specific and users have to manually register them in DE settings. In order for your application to support this, it should export such functions via the Dbus interface. And all this incompatible with Windows (my app is cross-platform), so I had to provide in-app interface for global shortcuts too that works for Windows and X11 users.

Ubuntu Gnome on AMD, actually.

screen recording/sharing, automation, it’s inherant fragmentation because it decided that basic window server functionality should be implemented on the DE, basically every driver but a super small subset of drivers for devices the devs care about which do not include nvidia drivers which are a huge portion of the userbase, the absolutely ridiculous architectural choices that intentionally blocks basic functionality, and furthermore causes a crash to completely freeze your computer which forces restart, a complete failure to understand standard monitor EDID, and a refusal to allow you to set them yourself (to this day my monitor, a bog standard 144hz 1440p LG monitor, is not supported by wayland), no global hotkeys, broken sleep mode, breaks appimages entirely, no redshift, the developers made sweeping design decisions that don’t work and then get pissy and throw temper tantrums in the mailing lists when people point out that they don’t work, heavily moving away from portability and modularity (the devs think nobody uses BSD?!), windows can’t raise themselves or keep themselves raised, or absolutely position themselves, so toolbars/utilities/etc can just go fuck themselves, sudo gets broken and has to pipe passwords everywhere as a workaround which means sudo has increased attack surface on wayland, and color management is non-existent.

And this is just shit I have personally ran into the last time I tried it, which was about 4 months ago.

Heya could you share how you do this trick to screen share ? Would it work on MS Teams?

Thanks, though it’s not a big enough problem that I worry about it. My couple of games still work fine in either environment.

I look forward to when all of these getting pains are mitigated by time.

Hyprland is pretty sweet, to be honest.

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Last time I checked sway did not support everything in my i3 config file. I’ve been testing wayland for the last decade or so, it never managed to deliver on its promises.

sway is a drop in replacement for it that uses wayland

IT IS NOT lmao, sway even complains that my i3 keybinds are wrong, those same keybinds work perfectly on i3.

You cannot, no desktop environment except Gnome and KDE has Wayland support beyond experimental status.

If I was content with running no desktop environment at all, I could already do that on Xorg.

I honestly don’t recall the details and can’t check right now. It’s been working like that for years.

I remember the main issues I was having were around yubikey, my usb hub which can switch between two pc’s and hotplugging. So I had to use a second tool which did something on any device plugin.

I think using both keyboards at once worked fine. I didn’t mean system keyboard language.

slaps forehead Of course! Silly me for not realizing the obviousness of needing to use the audio subsystem to take screenshots.