Hmmm. I mainly play heroes of the storm at the moment and I’ve had issues getting that to work. While the steam games seem to work great I really feel like it needs some more polishing.
The work that has been done on it is stellar though. Especially considering it’s the publishers not supporting Linux systems.
Everything on my steam deck works great though thanks to valve.
But my desktop… Not sure if I’m ready for that yet. :/
But my desktop… Not sure if I’m ready for that yet. :/
create a bootable USB disk and try it out, you don’t need to fully commit until you feel ready
Yeah I had it on dual boot for a while, but I rarely started it. I’d need to put some effort into it. Win10 currently isn’t so bad ( for gaming ).
But I am happy to see Linux gaming picking up.
if your machine is already dual boot I guess you already did most of the hard lifting, you just have to break that windows bad habit now :)
I had removed the partition and now I’m having a PITA to get PopOs to install at all.
“This GPT partition label contains no BIOS boot partition”.
I’ll need to figure out what’s wrong there.
Just needed to boot the USB drive as UEFI rather than just boot from the USB drive. I swear these are hurdles for the sake of creating them…
Installed battle.net as a non-steam app and forcing it to use proton. It’s installing and I haven’t had to do anything. That’s a good start at least.
If it works on steamdeck it should also be working on normal Linux using the Linux native steam program
I know. It’s the other platforms I’m worried about :D. Although I’ve kind of stopped playing all blizzard their other games.
Maybe I’ll give it another go at one point.
What issues did you have getting it to work? I have been playing hots on Linux for a few years now…nearly a couple of hours everyday, but I’ve not needed to install it for a long time so I’ve probably forgotten what was needed to set it up. There are some prerequisites and I will leave that here in case you feel like trying it out again in the future. https://github.com/lutris/docs/blob/master/Battle.Net.md
I tried installing it through lutris, first the battle.net client and then hots but it just failed to install.
I’d have to reinstall Linux and see exactly what the issue is. I probably missed one of the prerequisites.
I read something on the Linux gaming Lemmy group where they are planning on combining the fixes so not every platform ( bottles, lutris, steam ) has to maintain their own scripts to fix things.
I’d need to actually put some effort into figuring out why it didn’t work.
It’s a very common problem among users who attemped to install Nvidia driver using .run file. To fix it, it’s suggested to completely reinstall your system and get drivers from repositories instead.
If you didn’t know about this beforehand I would certainly consider this a case of Linux not being better.
There’s a reason everyone says “Just use Linux”
I jumped onboard last weekend. Built my new computer from parts because I couldn’t find a system I liked that didn’t come with a Windows license, and I refuse to pay for a shitty OS I won’t use.
I installed Mint have been happily gaming for just over a week now. I even upgraded my kernel when I came home for lunch one day. That’s not something you can say about Windows!
Linux gang, but I use Windows at work and do a full update (“Please wait… We’re working on things…”) weekly over lunch due to being trapped in the Windows insider program. It takes about half an hour. Longer than compiling a kernel though.
The pain of this. I have two separate Windows work laptops (one for my employer, one for the firm we work with; data separation fun). The number of times I’ve booted up the second laptop ready to dive into a meeting or to quickly grab a reference only to be confronted with 15 minutes of that.
Between pestering me to check for updates, pestering me to restart to complete updates, hanging on shutdown to carry out updates, and hanging on startup to finish updates, I feel like I spend an unfeasible amount of time and brainspace thinking about system updates. Why? I’ve got actual work to do too!
that’s awesome, i’d recommend trying out EndeavorOs for your next distro
I’d recommend staying with your current distro if you’re happy with it!
It’s really so much better. I’m going on a year now since I ditched windows and I have to say it’s been great and there’s nothing I miss about windows.
Everyone says to just keep it at Windows 10 or that Windows 11 is not that bad as that’s the majority of people. It’s a small group that says to just use Linux, and if you think it’s everyone it suggests you are in an echo chamber/don’t participate widely enough in various communities.
Well if you use a shit product you have constantly to fix because something is bothering you, you might as well change to something else.
Your fault.
Yes I agree. This is why I use Windows over Linux because Linux requires too much tinkering…
Thanks?
What smells like copium in here?
? My experience is as valid as anyone else’s.
If you can’t cope with that then I guess you are the one huffing copium.
If you find a community like that then they are too tech illiterate to be taking advice from
If you have to be on Windows then you have to upgrade
If you can’t upgrade/want a better experience then it’s Linux
There should be no “stay on Windows 10” group because it will be EOL in a year
Eh I’m glad that’s for you and you’re happy, and I know Lemmy might as well be the Linux fan club, but for me personally?
I’ve tried to switch to Linux on 2 occasions in the past (mid to late 00s and again in the mid 20-teens) and both times I found the conversion process tedious, the experience within the system to be one that felt like I was constantly fighting the system to accomplish my goals, and ultimately after giving it a few months each time, was absolutely relieved and delighted to finally give it up and go back to Windows each time. I tried at least 4 different flavors as well, so I don’t think it was so much that I just happened to not like one specific software, but rather that my primary annoyance was that I just wanted Windows and none of the Linux substitutes were it.
I’m sure a lot of that is simply being used to Windows after using it since the early to mid 90s, and I’m not saying Windows is perfect by any means…but for me at least, even a slightly annoying Windows experience will remain preferable to me over a third attempt to switch to Linux for the foreseeable future.
I just wanted Windows and none of the Linux substitutes were it.
Of course not. At the very least you have to be fed up with Windows before moving elsewhere. If you want Windows, stay with Windows.
You shouldn’t continue using Windows 10 after end of life though. Once it doesn’t get security patches anymore, it is a time bomb. And since the code base is easily 80-90% the same across versions, new vulnerabilities patched on newer versions are just hints for malware devs making the obsolete version even more likely to be attacked.
I’ve tried to switch to Linux on 2 occasions in the past (mid to late 00s and again in the mid 20-teens)
I’m not saying Windows is perfect by any means…but for me at least, even a slightly annoying Windows experience will remain preferable to me over a third attempt to switch to Linux for the foreseeable future.
To be fair, Linux gaming in the 2015s is not anywhere near as good as it is today in 2024.
I’d honestly say it’s worth another try, the third time may be the charm for you.
As a Windows 10 user who tried Win 11, it’s super gross. I’m hoping to get my shit together enough to convert to linux this year before Microsoft forces my hand.
If Microsoft forces my hand it’ll probably mean a month without gaming and I’ll be a sad, sad boy.
Linux gaming is a thing. Lutris and steam are working quite well. In some games I have better performance than windows. That being said not everything is working, some games are not working at all and other games have quite some settings and fiddling until they work. Check protondb where you can see users comments and game compatibility ranking for the games you play. Sometimes I want to go back to windows, but for the last 5 months I’ve booted windows once or twice. There is a learning curve and getting used to Linux, but in my opinion it is worth it. If you want to transition from windows don’t go with gnome. Start with kde or xfce, or cinnamon.
Every time I’ve tried to upgrade Windows major versions in place, it’s been a terrible experience. And not on potatoes, either!
From XP to Vista, everything broke. This was long enough ago that I don’t remember exactly how it broke, just that it made my computer unusable and I had to reinstall from CD. I mean, that makes sense though, right? Vista was terrible. From Vista to 7 (on a different machine), I just did a fresh install.
I skipped 8. After that, my Windows 7 machine (a third machine now) kept begging me to upgrade to 10, so I tried it. But even though Microsoft’s own tool told me everything would work just fine, the install was absolutely trash. I was stuck at 1024x768 (on a 16:9 monitor). Performance even with no programs running was so bad—on a machine that could easily run Adobe Premiere and Photoshop simultaneously under Win7—that it took ±30 seconds to open Task Manager. Exactly zero drivers for any USB peripherals worked; I had to dig out my PS/2 keyboard to revert the install.
At this point I must just be out of my mind, because last fall I let Windows 11 install on my Windows 10 computer (a fourth machine). The installation took several hours somehow, and when it was done wifi didn’t work. There were a few other annoyances, like stealing back defaults and reverting my Firefox default on every reboot. Being in no mood to deal with the nonsense, I switched back to Windows 10. And guess what? Wifi was still broken. Windows 11 broke network connectivity on Windows 10.
These were all good computers, and I don’t do anything particularly odd or unusual with them.
I’m never doing an in-place Windows upgrade again. No way, no how. Not gonna happen.
Ultimately it will all be anecdotal.
I’ve done plenty of upgrades without issues.
And I’ve tried Linux and found it abysmal with way too much of the sorts of issues you’ve mentioned.
So for me Linux is obviously a no go, but I could see why it would appeal perhaps to someone like yourself. Ultimately we are directed by our experiences.
Ultimately it will all be anecdotal.
Oh, for sure. But in any case, their QA isn’t as robust as it seems. With only one such experience, it would be bad luck. Maybe even with two. But with multiple, across experiences with few common factors, it seems more like ineptitude; and what else have they missed?
And I’ve tried Linux and found it abysmal with way too much of the sorts of issues you’ve mentioned.
Right, but I think what I’m trying to communicate is, if I’m going to run the risk that I’ll have to deal with this nonsense either way, why not at least use an OS which has goals aligned with my own?
There is a reason these people get blocked
Trust bust tech
How is this bad
It either pushes them to an actual supported Windows OS, or to a FOSS/Linux OS. Both scenarios are good
So this was the exact thing that pushed me over to the FOSS side the last time they did it. Nice to see the tradition of annoying users to the point of them abandoning Microsoft is alive and well.
what was that nice app that would block Windows 10 upgrades?
It’s called Russian botnet initiator 5.0
Linux. (ducks)
(ducks)
Penguins. :D
Damn a new distro? I can’t keep up…
Linux Ducks sounds delightful. I’d give it a shot.
It will curse and swear to helll with unintelligible error messages.
You say that like that’s not a feature.
Never said it wasnt ;)
You might be talking about Never10, made by Steve Gibson over at GRC.com. It has since been updated and renamed InControl. It now also works to prevent unwanted Win11 upgrades, as well as other things. https://www.grc.com/incontrol.htm
grc yes! thank you
There’s a registry setting for telling Windows that the target feature release is a specific version (it should be 22H2) which also will stop it from trying to push win11 upgrades
If anybody is curious, here are the details on how to do that: https://www.pdq.com/blog/how-to-block-the-windows-11-upgrade/
If you want to take it a step further, write a Powershell script that checks that the registry entry is what you want it to be, and then changes it if it is not. Then create a scheduled task to run at login that runs the script. That way if/when Microsoft pushes an update that switches the registry entry back, the scheduled task will flip it back after installing updates/rebooting/logging in.
I am currently fighting this battle with New Outlook in Win 11 23H2. It’s really annoying. I can get rid of it with registry entries, but when windows does updates it reverts the registry changes back. So scheduled task it is. It would be great if there was an Intune configuration profile to deal with this, but that would go against Microsoft’s current methods of shoving new products down your throat.
But 11 wants sometjing from my computer that it doesnt have, so it cant “upgrade”…
I had to update my BIOS a while ago and it set TPM back to disabled as default. Voila. No Windows 11 prompts because, as far as it can tell, I do not meet the requirements.
Brilliant! TPM as a crappy OS ad blocker… but this is still the worst timeline.
Based
My $2000 PC built a year before its release with no TPM will beg to differ.
if you built a $2000 desktop and didn’t specifically go out and source old parts… it’s got one, most likely, you’ve just chosen to not enable it. intel and amd cpu have them built-in and motherboards and their bios support those. they don’t need headers for a module or a discrete tpm chip on the board.
Drop requirements for TPM and secure boot then.
That shit is just Xbone Kinect all over again.
Desolder your tpm chip to prevent forced downgrade to win11
Disabling it in Bios is enough
Eventually, windows will just override it.
Oh, you can do this? Neat.
That seems much easier than installing Linux.
Or don’t buy a machine with that bullshit.
Edit: I’m not sure why I’m being downvoted. My comment is still valid. If the argument is “you can’t, all the machines now include it,” then it’s fucked up. Like today’s TVs which all of them are smart, and that’s fucked up.
If you’ve got a CPU from the last 6 years or so, you’ve probably already got one.
You can turn off those requirements a few ways. IIRC using Rufus to make the bootable USB can, or something like Windows X-Lite which absolutely strips away all the M$ bullshit, like edge, defender, telemetry, bloat, and ads.
Shit tier os
Enshitification continues.
I finally swapped to Linux and it’s been easier than I expected. Don’t know if I’ll ever go back to only windows.
What distro did you go with? Been thinking of switching myself
Not OP, but there’s many beginner friendly distros. I’d look into Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Zorin, or Elementary
Same I was really surprised how easy it was. Thank you Lutris
I didn’t even get a question, just straight up installed Windows 11 on my Surface with a bunch of cumulative roll ups after using it again for the first time in about 8 months. Couldn’t even stop it once the “windows update” started, only option is to allow the reboot and then go through the hassle of rolling back to 10. It’s a tertiary device for me and goes long periods without being used and I was probably ok with testing 11 performance on it, but don’t appreciate being strong armed. I had to kill modern standby again to prevent battery drain while shut down, which is plaguing my laptop after I tried 11 on it.
Windows 11 is straight up unusable in multi-monitor configurations though due to the locked down UI customization, so my main rig won’t be touching it with a 20ft pole. If Linux had more consistent VR gaming performance and support, I’d probably be jumping ship. As it stands, once 10 hits EOL I’ll probably end up there anyway. Microsoft will be killing one of my headsets at the same time anyway by dropping WMR, and I hear there is some great Linux options for the Surface Pro line now too.
Every time I see people complain about this while I’m running PopOS https://media.npr.org/news/images/2008/dec/12/sip_200-8cd52659abd57bb28c4d7bd3797c582d77527643-s6-c30.jpg
Amazing you managed to post that without having to install three different drivers then reboot forty times, then buy new ram
that sounds like Windows
I’ve never installed a driver on Linux… that’s a windows thing? and how the hell is Linux the one that needs more ram. What in the world are you talking about?
? What are you talking about?
Twenty-year-old anti-Linux memes.
If Linux folks are going to post self-congratulary, condescending comments in threads specifically about Windows, we’re allowed to take the piss
Yeah but at least our smugness isn’t based off 30-year-old information, unlike yours.
Threads specifically about Windows are one of the best places to suggest Linux.
You need Velcro shoes don’t you?
YOU MEAN I HAVE TO PUT MY SHOES ON MY FEET MYSELF‽ UTTERLY UNUSABLE!
-Mr_Blott, probably
Give me back my vertical side-docked taskbar or STFU.
No, I don’t want to deal with Explorer Patcher.
