I don’t know what a .webp file is but I don’t like it. They’re like a filthy prank version of the image/gif you’re looking for. They make you jump through all these hoops to find the original versions of the files that you can actually do anything with.
Edit: honestly I assumed it had something to do with Google protecting themselves from image piracy shit
webp is cool, but I much prefer JPEG-XL
Oops, I dropped my Magnum condom for my Magnum JPEG.
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JXL for short.
All programs that I use support them - what are these ancient apps that don’t?
Well when I try to send one in Discord it prompts the other person to download the file instead of embedding it for them to look at
Oh yeah, and they don’t even show up to send in Messenger, they just error there.
That’s discord being shite. Same thing happens with AV1 videos. But if you inspect element inside the client and change the source video or image, webp or AV1 can embed just fine.
My assumption is that they’re afraid they won’t display on all platforms. But it could still try.
I can’t speak for Messenger though. I won’t touch Facebook with a pole.
Weird. WebP works for me in Discord just fine, both on desktop and mobile. It’s all just Chromium under the hood after all (unless it’s an iPhone, in which case it’s probably Safari)
Microsoft Windows 10 photo viewer?
Can someone give me an example where webp gets in the way? I’ve been using it for a while and both macOS and Windows seem to support the format without any third party extensions for a while now and so do the Affinity apps.
I can use webp like any other image format at this point.
I have an older version of Office (and more importantly, Access) at work which doesn’t want to hear anything about .webp. When I need to make a document containing product pictures for a customer, .webp is a huge annoyance and time waste. Luckily the Firefox extension that bans .webp and forces .png or .jpg saves the day.
Transcoding and serving images as .webp as default is fine for saving BW and all that jazz, but when I click “Save image as” I should automagically end up on my disk with the original image format whatever that might be. But since that doesn’t seem to be a thing, I’ll happily find a way to force the server to serve the original all the time since for me BW is not a problem, but I don’t want to waste time converting every image before I can actually use it.
I often will use the Windows Snipping Tool to screenshot, then copy/paste the screenshot. This also works around sites trying to block you from right-clicking images. Granted you’re limited to screen resolution then but web images are almost always so tiny anyways that makes little difference most of the time
I’m pretty sure discord does not want to play nice with it whatsoever
It doesn’t do avif or jxl but it does handle webp
It’s chromium under the hood
Adobe has no time for it, so it ads that annoying extra step when collecting assets. I would appreciate Adobe support for it natively in Pr / Ps / Ae / Me and I’m cool with it.
Wow, doesn’t surprise me that Adobe does not support it. They still don’t support full screen or native dark mode on macOS in After Effects. Guess poor Adobe can’t be bothered to update basic functionality.
There’s a plugin to add support in PS, it’s worth getting if you use them often.
Oh good to know. Thanks! I’ll explore that.
A good video I found on the topic : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=68H1H6Z_gz4
Since nobody’s mentioned it yet, GIMP is a free and open source photo editor available on Mac, Windows, and Linux that can open .webp files and save them as a different file format easily.
To install GIMP, type:
pacman -S gimp. If you don’t know what is pacman, follow this guide: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Installation_guidearch user tries to not tell people to install arch challenge (100% impossible)
How can I open many photos on gimp like to view group of photos?
This seems like the crowd to have ffmpeg installed. Ffmpeg will convert webp to jpeg real easy, don’t even need to specify a converter.
I don’t know what they are other than a file format; but I also don’t know what everyone’s problem with them is. They open in every viewer or editor I’ve used just fine so you can convert them by just saving as a new format if you’re trying to reupload them somewhere.
My gripe with them is that MacOS Finder won’t generate thumbnail previews of them and just displays a generic image icon. You’re free to say “that’s dumb, fuck Apple,” but I hope it illustrates a widespread example of how they’re aren’t as easy to deal with as JPGs and PNGs.
This plugin will fix the thumbnails in Finder
Couldn’t you use a file manager that sucks less?
Yeah sure let me switch computing platforms for this one file format… just one sec…
Don’t they make better file managers for Mac hasn’t finder been kind of a joke for like 20 years now
The seems like there is a problem with your platform if you can’t easily switch to a reasonable file explorer.
I didn’t know this either.
“Google launched the WebP format as part of its mission to make loading times faster across the internet. WebP allows websites to display high-quality images — but with much smaller file sizes than traditional formats such as PNG and JPEG.”
It’s a great format—they do make websites load noticeably faster (especially with a lot of images), however it’s extra work dealing with compatibility and it does make it harder for users as they aren’t compatible with some of software/operating systems yet
I’ve never encountered a program that wasn’t compatible with WebP, what are you using?
I have since tailored my app choice for webp so unsure nowadays, but my experience was that Windows photos could not open them, Photoshop requires a plugin, websites don’t allow uploading them, the list went on. I love webp but the application support has been (or was) abysmal for years.
File explorer
It’s just a modern image format. What do you mean you need to make hoops to do anything with it? Unless you are using some old, outdated software you should be able to do everything with it just like with good old .png’s or jpg’s.
Old, outdated software? Windows 11 won’t open it, nor will Photoshop, last I checked.
I’m fully aware of the format, but until it’s compatible with everything seamlessly the way PNG or JPEG are, I’d rather stick with those for now.
What’s especially annoying is web pages that store their images seemingly as JPEG but are actually serving them through a CDN that converts them to WEBP if the browser supports them, so you try to save a seemingly JPEG JPEG, only to find at the last second it’s actually WEBP.
Yes, because webp images are smaller while having similar quality than jpeg. On some images is greater reduction than on others.
So websites and CDNs are using webp to speed up delivery and reduce download size.
But yes, software support is not complete.
Just like GIFs, only web browsers open it, in Windows. That, and Irfanview.
FWIW I use Photoshop 2023 to convert webp images to other formats occasionally. My Mac has no issues viewing them but I think my windows 10 desktop has issues. Pretty much all browsers support it though.
Usually you can inspect the web page and find the original jpg to download. Its annoying though.
Curiously enough, the only place where I’ve encountered WEBP files has been AI image generators. They usually offer PNG as an alternate format.
Basically everything on Lemmy is webp, btw, so you’ve probably encountered it a lot more :D
Huh! Well then I should say, the only place where I’ve seen it and other options was …
Not sure but it works everywhere except texting, so I can’t text my memes
Annoying, I have been renaming files to .jpg and can get around some of the crap.
Just renaming a file extension is not enough, that’s only a user-friendly name. The file itself needs to be decoded differently. On Linux you can recode them with commands such as Imagick:
magick input.webp output.jpg. Either way there are also many website that can recode/convert them for you.
In my personal experience, when downloading .webp files I wasn’t able to upload to the places I needed to much of the time. But I’ve always been able to just slap .jpg to the end of the file name as I used the save as function and that would make it work everywhere just fine.
Actually, just changing the file name doesn’t change the format. If it works, it’s because whatever place you uploaded to already supported webp.
If you download a webp file and you really want jpg, you need to actually convert it, not just slap .jpg on the end.
A pretty large amount of .JPG images are actually .WebP but people simply don’t notice for some strange reason. I’ve already seen several WebP images uploaded to WikiMedia with a JPG extension.
In that context: Websites may offer alternative image formats for the same image. They may offer jpg alongside webp. It’s just not easily discoverable by end users.
Just relaying what worked for me. Tried uploading with .webp and it didn’t work, tried with .jpg and it did. Didn’t matter to me whether it was a real conversion or not.
Here’s a tip: a lot of websites actually store and serve multiple copies of an image in different formats because not all browsers support newer formats. If you change the name of the file you’re viewing in the browser from .webp to .jpg, chances are you’ll see a jpeg version of the same image provided by the same server.
I’m sure some CMSes do that, but as a web dev I can assure you I absolutely do not
