are you the brick wall in this meme?
yes
You cannot imagine the lies I had to tell to the people while working for Applecare.
I once tried to do a relatively basic repair on a phone, and ended up really breaking it. Like the touch screen won’t work because I broke some shit on the motherboard that now requires micro soldering broke it.
So I send it to a repair company that allegedly does some micro soldering, and they call me to tell me they can’t repair it because their diagnostic utility doesn’t work unless it’s the stock OS (I’ve been a GrapheneOS user for many years). What they do is… wipe my data and then tell me it’s not the screen so they can’t repair it.
Then I sent it to an actually good repair shop and they fixed it very quickly, easily understanding the problem. Good repair companies aren’t easy to find but damn are they worth it. They’re almost always smaller shops and they do not GAF what you do with your phone’s software.
I was going to suggest doing it yourself, but it is a bit involved.
Would, but I don’t have the equipment.
If magisk still works like custom stuff in the days of old, settings could very much change battery draw and charge rates that could cause premature wear of a battery.
Hadn’t installed any of that stuff. Just Viper4AndroidFX
I’m sure, but how are they actually supposed to know that? You unlocked your bootloader, installed something like twrp, and obtained root access to jiggle with anything you want at that point. I used to have a lot of fun doing all that type of stuff, but I knew I voided out my warranty doing it unless I could still roll it back to factory and remove root, first. Not to mention dealing with knox.
Except legally the burden is on Samsung to prove you damaged the battery. They don’t get to say “oh well you could have done xyz, denied”
No, it’s not. That’s an impossible standard for the company to hold.
You buy the product under the assessment that you will void the warranty by doing XYZ, if you want that level of access you have made changes that could have damaged the battery and they don’t have the time to grill every wannabe tech douche to make sure they didn’t fuck up the device themselves.
They tell you what you can and can’t do with the product AND still receive support up front, case closed.
Ah yes, a Vice article from 2016. Absolute pinnacle of the understanding of law.
If this had even a shred of truth there would have already been dozens of class action lawsuits from people like OP.
So does installing a app that plays videos. Since watching videos drains more battery than say a typical phone call.
This argument is weak at best.
Any video apk you install can’t consume more than what the kernel allows for. It can’t change throttling parameters, cant change apu speed, and it can’t change how fast the battery can be charged or the upper limit it will charge to. All apks can only do what they’re allowed to do, and it’s a lot less than what flashed phones and custom kernels can do. Right now, for instance, your phones battery never actually charges to max capacity, or discharges to minimum capacity before powering down. Your “100%” is actually more like 90%, but it increases the batts lifespan because the most damage done to lithium batteries is at the high end and low end of what it can hold. Same for all the fast charge stuff. Fast charging is bad for the batt. That’s why even if you’re using the fastest charge option on your phone, by the time you hit around 50% it starts slowing the charge rate down. The phone is programmed to do that to save the battery from degrading quicker. A custom kernel and OS could change that.
If you rely on lies to protect freedom, you will not be able to protect it. Magisk allows to modify kernel parameters.
There’s a wide gap between “rely on lies” and “be forced to lie”.
There is no gap between those, for something like this that poses no threat to life. Pick a different phone brand than Samdung. I never recommend such a horrible mainstream brand for good reasons, and privacy is not the only one. If people are enticed by Good Lock and are okay with everything else, enjoy the rest of the baggage that comes with it.
Fuck Samsung. Not surprised though
Does Google still void warranty if you install GrapheneOS on a Pixel?
Looks like it doesn’t?
Very cool, thank you! This is very helpful.
Unroot, lock bootloater and bring it again, lol
Battery died and it doesn’t power on.
Then how the fuck do they know magisk is running on the phone?
Samsung puts fuses in their that blow when you install a different os
Source?
Knox https://samsung.gadgethacks.com/how-to/root-almost-any-galaxy-s6-s6-edge-without-tripping-knox-0161912/ tldr; samsung sucks, older phones are possible to bypass on but with caveats such as no OTAs and no custom recovery.
Oh I thought you were talking about a physical fuse lol.
It is kinda physical it seems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFuse
They replaced the battery, saw then sent back the broken one?
So someone got payed to wait for the phone to be shipped to them, took the effort to carefully and meticulously disassemble the phone, install the new battery by micro soldering the battery leads to the mainboard, then booted it to see it blew a shitty security fuse but can still boot fine, then took the time and effort to uninstall by removing the micro solder from the battery and mainboard without damaging the phone, just to tell them they can’t do it?
I wouldn’t be at ALL surprised
Exposition time!
So I took it to the repair while the battery was about to die. Somehow, the battery just started working again (it kinda phased in and out of broken and not broken before dying at the time of posting) so they saw Magisk was installed. Fast Forward to the day I made the post. The phone finally died completely and wouldn’t charge no matter what, but I hadn’t uninstalled Magisk. Meaning I can’t unless its repaired. And if they repair it right now, I won’t have a chance to uninstall Magisk and will be forced to pay for it.
You don’t own the phone btw. It’s in the TOS.
Stop parroting corporate propaganda.
It sounded to me that they were pointing out how fucked up it is that we don’t even own the hardware we pay for after clicking BUY. At least I would mean that.
We do own the hardware we buy. It’s fucked up that corporations keep trying to gaslight us that we don’t, but their delusional claims aren’t actually true.
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I fried the battery charging chip for my HTC dream when I rooted and used it as a router for the family in holiday. I felt it was hot to the touch but I thought “it’s gonna be ok, surely it has temperature sensors and it will throttle”. High draw for a long time when charging = the chip exploded and it wouldn’t charge anymore. Luckily the battery was removable and I already got an external charger for it from dealextreme. But HTC still repaired it for free under warranty even if it was my fault and I gave to them back rooted.
Same for LG when my rooted Nexus 5X boot looped, although that was an endemic problem caused by LG shitty manufacturing (they changed the stance a few months after that, never bought LG anymore)
Samsung should repair it, I thought they were the only ones root friendly left on the market…
i was using my older mi play as a router (temporary solution) until we moved and got a proper internet connection. (we were very close to the poland-ukraine border back then and only my old phone was able to pick up vodafone ua’s 4g signal across the border)
it shut itself down multiple times and was constantly turning off the tethering mode due to overheating.it still has vibrant permanent yellow burn marks on the display around the hot spots and only drains 0.5a while charging no matter what.
I thought they were the only ones root friendly left on the market…
Not anymore.
Yes, they used to be.
Samsung isn’t root friendly at all. Most of their phones can’t be bootloader unlocked officially.
The only ones that do are google, moto and the chinese ones
wdym literally all phones can be unlocked without a waiting period, account, internet connection or any other bs (it trips the knox e-fuse tho)
you just go to the settings, enable oem unlock and run fastboot unlock.
it’s as straight forward as it gets and works on all devices that aren’t locked to a carrier or sth (which is mostly an us-exclusive issue)
Your fault for buying a phone that doesn’t respect you: it has efuses (knox). Buying a regular Android phone that lets you fully restore it without a trace is the way to go.
This is true.
I’m also wondering what OP was wearing when he took the phone in for repairs, seems like he was asking for it.
where can I get a good phone like a pixel or fairphone or whatever in greece? phones like that cant be found anywhere.
Used market?
Online? I’m confused, do they not ship to Greece?
bought an iqunix a80 from online, tarrifs doubled the price
I’m confused, what nation did you buy from? There are no tarrifs inside the EU? I’m fairly certain you could easily find both German and Italian sites that ship to Greece.
Iqunix is a Chinese company. I bought it from the official website.
Most stores ship from the US, so I wouldn’t doubt there’d be similar tarrifs alongside insane shipping cost (because transatlantic)
https://geizhals.eu/google-pixel-8-v142055.html
580€ Pixel 8
https://geizhals.eu/google-pixel-7-v113378.html
412€ Pixel 7
Shit. Thanks.
Ah. I see. So it’s not that you can’t get them it’s that they are expensive and you are looking for a reasonably priced way to get one. That makes sense.
Know any good brands then that have gold hardware because I like phones with large oled screens that have good hardware but haven’t found any phones that fit that yet
This is a hot take, but get a pixel. The hardware is more than good enough for basically any phone use case and you can install grapheneOS.
The battery life could be better, but it will last substantially more than a day, so complaining seems a little pointless to me.
I will consider it when looking for my next phone but my current Samsung is still functioning so I don’t want to get a new phone until that one kicks the bucket
you can absolutely do it yourself. be prepared and get the right tools, look up many many guides and videos before you start, but I honestly think it’s doable for someone whose never opened a phone. those batteries are an absolute pain in the ass to remove, but as long as it’s discharged below 20% you really don’t have to worry about it it catching fire or anything catastrophic like you’re lead to believe (just be careful ofc and wear PPE)
Would, but I don’t have the equipment.
I replaced the battery in my old Pixel 3a by myself without the tools with iFixit. They shipped me the battery and tools I’d need for like $50 and all I had to do was follow the guide.
where I live there are shops for laptop, console and phone repairs. I’d keep it simple and go to one of those
Been a while since I looked, but last time I checked around me, the starting price for any work like that was like $200 (maybe it was less?). Not exactly worth it for a $300 phone that’s already aging unless you need data off it or something. Granted, YMMV with pricing.
battery replacements usually run around 60-90 at my shop depending on the device, if I ever walked in to a shop and heard 200$ I’d walk tf out that’s insane pricing.
If it’s still under warranty, they HAVE to unless they can prove your modification caused the system to fail. It’s no different than the silly stickers that say “warranty void if removed” - that’s a nice fantasy for the manufacturer, but at least in the US it’s been ruled those stickers mean absolutely nothing. If they’re refusing to fix a phone under warranty, contact your local AG and enjoy watching them squirm. Loop in the FTC for good measure.
Here in Brazil the hardware and software are technically two different products, in such a way that you can’t deny a hardware warranty repair due to software modifications. That’s the good part.
The bad part is that manufacturers do that anyway because they know you won’t pay the legal fees to challenge this in court. This strategy mostly pays off. If you’re particularly annoying, or somebody from our customer protection watchdog happens to take interest in your claim, the company will fold and repair the modified device for you eventually.
We gotta get EU on board this train.
This kind of thing is illegal in mist eu countries but they also dont enforce it like in brasil. Iirc norway enforces it because a bunch of people sued samsung together.
I have never heard of this kind of thing being an issue in EU countries. If your warranty is still good, they’ll simply fix/repair it without issues. Of course that’s purely anecdotal.
At that point just do it yourself
Yeah I bootlooped my samsung phone and the service center didn’t gave a shit about it They said the circuit itself is damaged and is hardbricked I fixed it with some kind of unlock tool lol
I forgot the tool’s name Anyways i broke the screen just after few months fixing all this RIP💀
