Hello, i am currently looking for a Linux distribution with these criteria:
-it should be more or less stable, comparable to Ubuntu with or without LTS // -it should not be related to IBM to any way (so no fedora/redhat) // -it should not feature snaps (no Ubuntu or KDE neon) // -KDE plasma should be installable manually (best case even installed by default) // -no DIY Distros //
I’ve been thinking about using an immutable distro, but if anyone can recommend something to me, I’d be very grateful //
Edit: I’m sorry for the bad formatting, for some reason it doesn’t register spaces
Definitely Debian. Or Mint if you also like the cinnamon desktop (which is similar to KDE’s in terms of default look).
Cinnamon has no real Wayland support, along with all the fancy stuff like perfect fractional scaling, multi refresh rates, HDR support, and whatnot. At least Wayland support is important
They didn’t specify that requirement. For instance, I have zero need for any of that and therefore can keep on trucking on Xorg until Wayland reaches my DE of choice in a stable form.
I imagine installing KDE on Mint is not a good experience. You would need to remove the entire desktop, all the iconsets etc. and then install KDE.
Lets see which X.org desktop wins the race for 3rd place with real Wayland support! I sure hope for the best.
I have yet to find an actual description of said difficulties. I’ve used Debian based distros for over 20 years, with a recent hiatus of some 3 years recently when I simply stopped using PCs at home. A different DE was always just an apt-get away, then select which of the N installed DEs you wanted to try at the login screen.
- setup autoupdates
- setup virt-manager
- install flatpak apps
This is for sure different on GNOME than on KDE, my reference is GNOME and its horrible packagenames make debloating a pain.
What part of that is related to installing a DE side by side another? I’m genuinely asking. Never had to do any of that. Why are you doing it?
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I would recommend Fedora Kinoite.
Yes, you said no RedHat stuff, but Fedora is 100% community run.Especially when you use the Kinoite-build from universal-blue.org, everything should work ootb and is very reliable, while also being semi-stable in terms of update frequency
Second that. Ublue kinoite-main for a painless experience.
Personally I would even recommend Secureblue
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Debian as others are saying is a great choice
But I’ll still shill arch, I’ve literally never encountered a problem with it other than my first time installing manually being a learning experience. Not sure if it counts as a DIY distro bc you can definitely install with a script
If you use arch, you should do the “automatic snapshots” thing with BTRFS, grub and pacman hooks. That is important to have a version to rollback to, as its Arch.
Linux Mint is hands down the most stable linux distro out there and has been for years. zero tinkering needed. everything just runs no questions asked.
My only grief with Mint is the most recent update where they changed the software centee and now it’s slowed to a crawl. Why they would do this is anyones guess.
I’m recommending MX until such time that Mint sort their crap out - unfortunately I doubt they will, seeing as this change of software center was to resolve some other issues they (but not is end users) though they had.
MX is basically debian but with a lot of improvements. Sure it might have a bit of a learning curve for those primarily used to Ubuntu based systems, but it beats running any of the other Ubuntu distros by miles since they all struggle with the crap Ubuntu puts on top of Debian.
Manjaro is another great option if you don’t want to deal with debian based stuff, and KDE is the default DE with most stuff under reasonable control. You can also use all the Arch resources if you ever run into trouble so it’s a lot less of a headache than what I’ve experienced running OpenSUSE (i want to love OpenSUSE but I just can’t).
Linux mint is just Ubuntu with opinionated Ubuntu crap removed. Is there Linux Mint with KDE?
not at all. mint offers a bunch of features ‘exclusive’ to mint as an integration with their system. of course it’s all open source and you could install it on any other system. but the key important factor with mint is that everything ‘just works’ with a fresh install, no customization necessary - which is something that can’t be said about any other distro, including Ubuntu. it is the only distro i recommend for non-pc users as there is no chance they will brick it.
regardless, KDE is just a DE. you won’t get the same mint experience of course, since it isn’t officially supported (and indeed, only cinnamon offers the complete mint experience), but installing KDE on mint is easy enough if you insist on using it.
kde neon don’t use snaps
Slackware current.
disable repositories, updates https://github.com/aarnt/octopi, https://ctlos.github.io/, https://endeavouros.com/.
Same recommendation as usual from me :) pepparmint OS , Debian base extra on top
what does half stable mean?
stable os with fresh applications?if thats what you are looking for,
maybe debian with flatpacks for fresher softwares?or if you also dont like flatpack, maybe
debian with nixHalf stable = well tested, not artificially held back, not untested
- Siduction
- openSUSE
OpenSUSE is good. If corporate scares you off, there’s OpenMandriva Lx or Mageia.
people will read stable and instantly comment debian
Jokes aside, given that you said in a comment that it’s for non-tech-savvy people, I’d say Linux Mint, partially just because it will look familiar if they’ve seen any Windows PC.
They mentioned KDE
As far as I know you can install Mint with KDE
They have only Cinnamon, XFCE and Mate but for sure you can use whatever KDE Ubuntu LTS has in their repos. In general not a good idea though I suppose.
yes Debian, install latest MX Linux (23.2 AHS) and enjoy it, it’s a great distro, up to date, well maintained. There is a KDE version where you can install latest kernel from their AHS repo (6.6.11 as time of writing)
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Debian
Yeah go straight to the source.
Or LMDE for a mix of stable foundation and some ease of life tweaks.
