Insert <it’s not much but it’s honest work> meme. It only supports ints and bools, some logic and simple arithmetics and it compiles to Java but damn was it hard to get that far.
Can you guess what everything does?
Impressive, no cap!
class Scratch { // Start of file public static void main(args: string[]) { int number1 = 2; number 1 = 10; int number2 = 13; boolean fo_sure = true; if (fo_sure) { number1 = number1 + 5 - 10 * 2 / 3; } System.out.println(number1); boolean canYouSeeMee = false; System.out.println(canYouSeeMe); if (false) { canYouSeeMe = false; } else { canYouSeeMe = true; } System.out.println(canYouSeeMe); } }What’d I win?
I find it interesting and unnerving that I understood the code, but not the youthspeak.
Isn’t the second if condition
false?Thanks, I corrected it.
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It all gets put into the main method though in this version 😄
canYouSeeMe = !canYouSeeMe;
There are even more optimization possibilities, but I wanted to stay as close to the original as possible.
Yeah, it can be optimized down to a single constant print statement.
Is this LOLCODE 2.0?
It only supports ints and bools, some logic and simple arithmetics and it compiles to Java but damn was it hard to get that far.
I have a bachelor’s in computer science and I don’t think I would be able to do that…
Compilers are a specialized topic - and syntax design is fiddly - but it really is no harder than any other sort of program. A lot of the hard theoretical work was done back in the sixties and seventies. You don’t have to start from scratch. These days it’s “only” a matter of implementing the features you want and making sure your syntax doesn’t leave itself open to multiple interpretations. (just as arithmetic, e.g. ‘5 × 4 - 1’ requires some rules to make sure there’s only one correct interpretation, so do language syntaxes need to be unambiguous to parse. )
Don’t get me wrong - writing a language is a lot of work and it’s super cool that OP has done this! I just want to stress that language development is 100% doable with an undergrad degree. If you understand recursion and how to parse a string you already have all the theory you need to get started.
Valuable input! I actually am an undergrad student. There are a lot of frameworks out there that support writing languages, with MPS being one of them.
If I’d start from scratch again and had a little more time, I’d frankly try writing an interpreter myself, instead of trying to conform to weird framework syntax, which I won’t be able to reuse in any other context.
Saying syntax design is fiddly is an understatement. I focused very hard on getting an abstract syntax somehow finished before working on generation in my first iteration. Then I had so much technical debt, that I couldn’t get anything to work and had to rewrite a lot. So I scrapped it all and started again, starting with top level concepts including generation and only implementing some lower level ones, once everything around it worked properly.
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If you’d like to learn how, I recommend the book (which is also available online) Crafting Interpreters.
Compiler courses are typically master level.
It was part of my BSc, but that was over 20 years ago.
My college must have been full of sadists. They had undergrad compiler courses and required students to take them.
Same, it usually whacked about half the attempted majors into another major. In the first half of senior year. They kept wondering why their program wasn’t growing much even though similar colleges’ programs were growing like mold on a dorm shower curtain. I enjoyed the course and never used the primary skills taught in it again.
It really depends on what you do, but somehow, I actually did end up using some of the things those courses were teaching. It turns out the visitor pattern is extremely useful for writing JavaScript code transformers.
Im having a mandatory compiler course on my 3rd year of (french) bachelor
I definitely read this as you were a third year French major being forced to taking a compiler course for a moment and went wtf. Then my brain slapped itself and realized you mean you’re a student in France.
Nah, I think they’ve won the French version of The Bachelor 2 years in a row and are about to win the third.
Haha yeah I meant that I was studying computer science im France and not studying french. Here in France, bachelor are called licence and are only 3 years compared to 4 in north america afaik, but there are way fewer electives
in your area on the world map (wherever that is).
I had an entry-level compiler course during undergrad. We used JavaCC to generate a lexer and parser based on eBNF grammar.
It’s likely transpiring and not compiling, so it’s a lot easier than it seems. Source: made a language that adds features to Python and transpiles to valid Python.
It doesn’t compile or transpile in actuality. It generates Java based on an abstract syntax tree. The concrete syntax is not considered in Java generation by MPS.
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It only supports ints and bools, some logic and simple arithmetics
That’s more than you need.
Vibe check is your scope declaration (class?)
num is obviously your int class
fr? is your Boolean class
if __ no cap is ’ if __ then’, if cap is ‘else’, sheesh ends the conditional
flex __ on the haters is your echo/print
frfr is your scope ending
Correct!
Vibe check is pretty much the scope. Classes aren’t a thing (yet).
That’s cool but also makes me cringe.
Does it compile into JVM bytecode or Java source code?
JVM bytecode is one of the most infuriating IRs I ever had the displeasure to work with, and if you managed to make a compiler for that, I applaud you.
Fortunately I generate Java source code from it. However MPS generates both source and byte code when you build the solution. For some reason I can’t get the byte code to run though, but the source code does, so I don’t care too much.
That sounds about right for JVM bytecode… In any case, great work!
No cap is cracking me up. This is great stuff
“based”
Are you fo sho?
Yep
Is flex X on the haters a way of logging to console?
Yes, it pretty much just wraps the expression in a “System.out.println(<expression>);”
Maybe “flex X” outputs to stdout and “flex X on the haters” outputs to stderr?
I like the way you think! 😂
flex X on the foolsdoes verbose logs only.I’m curious to know how your language throws and catches errors :)
People are designing languages with JetBrains MPS and I am making an AWK interpreter in C with Yacc, Lex and my own implementation of ASDL. Why do I do this to myself? It seems like the technology I like is way behind. Like C is a language created for freaking mini-computers like VAX and PDP-11 and I still use it? I knew about MPS, I just felt a strong dislike towards it. Now that I am no longer a pill addict, I have to reconsider the technology I choose to implement my stuff. C lacks portability, and QoL features.
(Psyche! All you n000bz can be stuck with your Fischer-Price toys — I’ll do it MY way, the 70s WAY!!!1)
Reading this comment and then looking up and seeing that your username ends with PDP11 was *chef’s kiss*
I choose option C, eclipse xtext
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Looks like you’ve got a bug in there.
if false no cap canYouSeeMe = false if cap canYouSeeMe = true sheeshWon’t this always go into the else/cap condition since the if condition is checking to see that false == true?
You’re correct, but it doesn’t really matter for demo purposes. In an actual use case (whatever that would be for this language) you would of course want to use some kind of variable or expression there instead of a constant.
