Like Dune? Like Dune.
Ghost in the Shell was an unnecessary remake of a fantastic original animation that was improved by the series that followed it. There was never a need for a live action version.
I loved that movie! I thought they did an excellent job, and it gave us more cyberpunk content, which there is not nearly enough of.
tbh I would have loved a well done live action version of GITS. With a Japanese cast, international subtitles, and a new offshoot plot that expands upon the original film. Bring in a remastered version of the original animation’s impeccable soundtrack. I absolutely think it’s possible, but it’s far outside the realm of “make cheap movie make big money” that the majority of film studios operate on today
Ghost in the shell was decent. They paid incredible attention to the art direction and casting ranged from perfect to acceptable. I can’t remember a single scene but their rendering of 90s retrofuturism sincerely blew me away. Maybe modern cinema has tainted me but it really wasn’t terrible.
It could have been an acceptably decent movie if it wasn’t trying to be part of the GitS franchise. As a GitS fan I hated it, but I wonder if it could have been more fun to watch if I was unfamiliar with the series. I remember thinking the same with a lot of movies based on books I hadn’t read like Percy Jackson, the movie became a lot worse after reading the source material.
It could have been an acceptably decent movie if it wasn’t trying to be part of the GitS franchise.
Yeah, I think this is a pretty common phenomenon. In the same vein, Discovery could have been a fun sci-fi show if it wasn’t trying to be part of Star Trek.
As a GitS fan I hated it, but I wonder if it could have been more fun to watch if I was unfamiliar with the series.
Yeah, this as well. I’m sure I would have enjoyed the Hobbit trilogy more if I’d never read the book. Still, there are such huge chunks of those movies that just feel like video game cut scenes—probably not the best example.
Absolutely, there’s a lot of stories that would have been better received as their own original IPs. Unfortunately, it’s a lot safer to make a sequel so you can count on sales from the pre-established fanbase. Another good example I always go to is the Thief video games, where I got my username. The reboot dramatically changed all the mechanics and ditched a lot of what made the first games so engaging, very little aside from a few proper nouns has any resemblance to the original. It could have been a decent stealth game if it sold itself on its own merits(it certainly wasn’t terrible) but as a Thief game, it justifiably got fans upset.
Looking at you, Dark Tower
I heard a rumor that Stephen King gave Mike Flanagan the greenlight to do Dark Tower. Here’s to hoping. That’s one of the few things I want to see as a show rather than movies
It is not a rumor.
https://ew.com/tv/mike-flanagan-dark-tower-stephen-king-adaptation-update/
the director envisioned as a five season TV series, followed by two stand-alone features.
Wow that’s not what I was expecting at all.
Imagine the dude doing the Dune movies making Dark Tower.
I’m dreaming. But it’s a wicked cool dream.
I can’t believe we’re in the universe where there’s a Dark Tower film with the incredibly talented Idris Elba and it was so stupidly bad.
Does he play Susannah?
No, he plays Jake.
THERE’S A MOVIE!!?
Yo, I am reading that series!
Don’t get hyped, it’s mid at best.
Awh
Should be a TV series. Start with The Gunslinger and work your way through the books, but also split up Wizard and Glass into small chunks to use as episode openers so there isn’t suddenly a season long flashback with different actors.
Funnily enough the movie they made was supposed to be the intro to a TV show.
Trying to expand Gunslinger to bring in more backstory (and reeeeeeeally messing up the backstory) killed both the movie and the planned TV show. It’s crazy how well their plan could’ve worked if they hadn’t tried to fold too much into the “prequel”. Dark Tower even has the built-in “out” that this is a different turn of the wheel.
They were going to run out of material way too fast the way they did the movie. They condensed The Gunslinger, The Drawing of the Three, Wolves of the Calla, and Song of Susannah into ninety minutes. They could have done the rest of Drawing, but then that just leaves The Waste Lands, The Dark Tower, and an excessively long flashback with Wizard and Glass. They would have needed to just not adapt more book content in order to have more than a couple seasons of material.
yeah it can’t be a movie. Unfortunately my favorite character will never be accurately adapted and will lose her badassery. Better we wait for another time
Im going to go out on a limb here and say something controversial.
I liked the remake of White Men Cant Jump and I want to see more. Remake Major League too.
I always felt like Flowers For Algernon was such a compelling book and the only movie i know of is one of the worst things I’ve ever seen. You would think it was a comedy based on that movie.
I’d like that
The dark tower
eragon
the hobbit
fantastic 4
In Time.
What did they do to her face?
no game no life zero
OH MY GOD YES. Let’s see, They Live (I actually really liked that one), Re-animator, Howard the Duck, and grave encounters series
In the case of Dune that is just happening, which is an exception.
It’s not a remake, it’s another adaptation of the same source material.
Jodorowsi’sLynch’s Dune was great in its own fever dream kinda way - don’t get me wrong, I’m over the moon we have the new movie, and prefer part 1, but the older movies are a thing.Jodo’s Dune was never made though, a fact that makes me sad everytime I am reminded of it. However, we have The Incal, The Meta Barons and The Technopriests which is great.
Jodorowski never got to make his Dune.
They were probably thinking of the David Lynch version.
I was - I watched the Jodorowsi doco a while back and mixed it in with the Lynch version - thanks!
David Lynch’s is the best version, case closed
If Denis Villeneuve is passionate about a story you let him make the movie, its pretty simple.
So basically remaking every movie starring Nicolas Cage?
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Pig is one of my favorite movies ever. I married a chef though so opinion may be biased
You shut your damn mouth. Nicolas Cage is perfect.
I love Nic for making movies I’d love to actually see, except for the fact that he’s in them.
Maybe they could do a crossover where all the Cage movies get remade with Travolta and vice versa
Wow! Like some kind of face off.
And give it time! I don’t want a do-over of a failed movie just a couple years later. The Ghost in the Shell movie was a disappointment, but don’t just keep plugging away at it until something works.
Spider man, fantastic 4…
But the original Ghost in the Shell is perfect! I just rewatched it this weekend and it still looks amazing! Why remake that?
I think they’re talking about the live action version (2017) version. But I agree the 1995 Ghost in the Shell animated movie is a fantastic movie. Funny thing is in 2008 they did Ghost in the shell 2.0 which add some cg to the original, it’s been a while since I’ve watched it, so I don’t know if they reuse the same animation from the 95 version or animated new stuff I really don’t remember to be honest. But ya oh 1995 animated Ghost in the Shell is amazing I was actually planning on rewatching it this week.
They did a sort of do-over for Suicide Squad relatively quickly and that was for the best.
And now they’ve given the keys to the DC cinematic universe to Gunn so he can do it with all the movies.
Or roll with some story driven videogames. TONS of content compatible with the big screen, provided they put someone who actually knows the franchise in charge.
Mass Effect comes to mind.
Or a SW film focused on Revan or Kreia.
They already fucked up Halo with the TV series, but an unrelated movie could be good.
Half Life… jfc, Half Life 3 as a movie would be simultaneously such a slap in the dick and absolutely hilarious for not giving us a game. Definitely cinematic potential.
Elder Scrolls or Enderal.
Deus Ex.
Pooooossibly Legacy of Kain - admittedly hard to see them getting that one right as a movie, but it’s a take on vampirism that I don’t think anything comparable has made it onto the big screen. If it went well, it’d be a nice redemption after all the Twilight BS.
This has the potential to become a very long list, but that’s the point: there is some KICK ASS content that the big screen hasn’t ever touched, so rather than remaking old flops, bring on some adaptations!
Something based on Bioshock, either the first or the second, would be amazing as a movie, not just visually but because there’s quite a human side to the story, from the tragedy that beffel those in what was supposed to be utopia and what was done to those who became Little Sisters and Big Brothers to the megalomania of its maker and even the whole wiff of Fascism in the politics of the place before it fell.
The biggest issue of most videogame adaptation flops is that they’re not really inspired in the source material. But usually are a different original script with a paint coat of franchise. As a result they fail at being good as part of the franchise, but they also fail at being good as something original because they’re dragged down by the expectations and precedent of the franchise the script is being forced upon. Halo being the biggest example, the writers and show runners even bragged how proud they were they didn’t played the original games.
Counter example, the Warcraft movie is actually good fun because the scriptwriters really knew the lore and understood what makes up WoW’s essence. Part of the problem is producers don’t take videogame as a serious art medium. Similar to the problem that animation has, where some producers don’t think of animation as real cinema.
What is wrong with Ghost in the Shell?
The anime is great. The recent remake is flashy but lacks the souls of the original. It wasn’t as bad as some critical and box office perform made out, but when a remake is worse than the original, what’s the point?
I mean nothing is as good as the original Manga. But each has changed the story a little to make it interesting. The live action was above average in my book. Not talking Blade Runner levels but enjoyed it.
Yes, it was better than I expected given the reviews and audience scores. It was quite pretty.
The (live action) movie sucked big time.
In what way?
In all of the ways, mostly. But most particularly in that it’s neither authentic or enjoyable. It’s just soulless cgi trash.
I beg to differ. After watching it again recently they used plenty of practical effects mixed with cgi. Hell it is a light year better than any recent Marvel or DC movies even. Few notes is the changes to the story. Which has been done each version away from the manga. The chief is amazing speaking only Japanese and fully rocking that roll. I hear many complain about the movie yet cannot sight actual examples that ruin the experience other than it is not like the anime. But if you have been following it like me since the original manga you know it is always been changed a little. But who would just want to keep watching the same thing over and over again in a different form.
Not interested in arguing with you. The box office, reviews, and general fan opinion disagree with you. It’s perfectly okay to like something most others don’t.
It’s called debating not arguing. If you cannot back up your own personal statement then I suggest your go back to Reddit. Or at least try trolling better.
I suggest you eat a dick, and go back to lurking incel subs shit head.
I liked it
Nothing wrong with being in the minority opinion on something.
Thanks. I’m not very clever with stuff like this. Remakes have no surprising content. We know what’s going to happen even if it’s roughly the same story. So long as I have the happy to watch it again feeling then I say it’s a good movie.
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