• @[email protected]
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      Not really. People who use the apps are trying to preserve (conserve) the time when privacy wasn’t an afterthought. It’s not working, but they’re sure trying.

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        Conservationists are not the same as conservatives.

        The only thing that conservatives are trying to conserve is their own privilege and impunity.

    • @[email protected]
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      It’s using the word conservative in its literal definition, rather than the definition it’s been given by some that incorrectly use it to describe their beliefs.

      The word they’re looking for is “Facist”

  • @[email protected]
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    Tech normie also uses VS Code as a text editor sending data to Microsoft & using proprietary plugins.

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      tbf vscode is a decent, open-source editor with great support for Rust (it’s rust-analyzer’s primary platform with nvim and Clion on the second place)
      (but the official ms packages ship with a custom config with ms telemetry, branding and marketplace)
      basically just use code(oss) or vscodium instead of binary vscode releases

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        Most of the language servers can run with Vim, Neovim, Helix, Kakoune, or Emacs as you noted. You could run VS Codium if you’re the “Tech Conservative”, but ultimately if you’re going all the way to “Tech Paranoid”, you won’t touch VS Code or Codium knowing Microsoft is steering the ship with another EEE plot in mind. It’s all a part of that package with Microsoft™ GitHub® + Codespaces® + Copilot® trying to vendor lock-in the developer experience into the platform.

      • @[email protected]
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        It’s “open source” as a technical matter, but the fact is that plenty of common extensions are still strictly controlled by Microsoft (like say, Live Share) and can’t be used with vscodium due to licensing. It’s a pretty useless editor without extensions, and the marketplace isn’t exactly “open”, either.

        • voxel
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          most extensions I use are available on openvsix

          don’t care about proprietary C++/C# debuggers because I use CodeLLDB (with Rust-analyzer).

    • @[email protected]
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      Internet Relay Chat. Super old school, everyone connects to a server with their own clients. I think with modern encryption though it’s one of the more secure ways to chat as long as the server owner is trusted.

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    Firmly in camp conservative (yikes) Fav OS: Fedora Fav browser: Firefox Fav apps: Thunder and Element and technically feeder but only because I haven’t had the energy to write my own rss feed consumer nervously in dart/flutter

    I’m in the process of putting together my own next cloud and moving to proton mail. After that I’ll be able to install bridges from a self hosted matrix to discord for people and teams for work. I use edge, outlook, and teams on my work computer but it occasionally connects to my home network so at some point I’ll probably put it on an isolated vlan.

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    With every passing year, little by little I go deeper to the privacy paranoid side.

    But my focus is way more anti big corporation than pro privacy, that fact those are almost one and the same is mostly a side effect for me.

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    Tech paranoid all the way, although not the same type of tech paranoid as Luke Smith. The only good computer is one you have the hardware schematics to (i.e. virtually none of them). Thinkpads are just another brand of overpriced laptop. Besides the occasional steam game, I heavily prefer FOSS only and will flat out refuse almost anything that has drm. My unlocked bootloader android phone is so heavily locked down with privacy stuff that I cause Google to lose money merely by existing.

    • @[email protected]
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      Assuming the schematic is for repairability, not security. Seems unlikely that enthusiasts would have the equipment to non-destructivly identify malicious deviations from spec, introduced by competent actors.

    • @[email protected]
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      The only good computer is one you have the hardware schematics to (i.e. virtually none of them).

      Purism, System76 and, more recently, Framework

      • @[email protected]
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        PinePhone Pro for the mobile side. The schematics are available. I quite like mine, especially with the keyboard case. It’s basically a pocket laptop.

      • @[email protected]
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        This is only for laptops by the way. System76 desktop BIOSes are still closed source. It’s such a shame that there’s no FOSS BIOS for desktop PCs, hopefully AMD OpenSIL changes that.

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            I’m not sure they can make them FOSS because they don’t make their desktop motherboards AFAIK. They’re much harder to make than laptop ones.

      • Hobovision
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        What’s the point if they still have AMD, Intel, Nvidia, Qualcomm, etc. chips on them?

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    Oh god, this meme. It’s not something I’ve ever seen before, but it’s so true.

    God, Tor, freaking Tor. Bless it’s heart, really, but it’s practically unusable. At least for me. I was really getting into it, trying to use it as a daily browser, ran with so much less ram than all the others. But it’s practically unusable! All the shitty websites I had to go on daily for School practically didn’t work, and half the websites would always take at least 10-15 minutes to get working because they keep thinking I’m a hacker. Or it’s just region blocked, and I have to spend SO MUCH TIME making new connections in the hopes it doesn’t go to a single blacklisted country. Sometimes even with a phone there to authenticate, it just doesn’t work. So I had Firefox anyway, it was literally what Tor was built off of. And because of how unbelievably inconvenient and annoying Tor (Or more accurately, how shitty the Internet in general has got, I really wouldn’t mind logging in to every website every time, with a phone authentication every so often) was, I ended up just using Firefox and using Tor for dark web stuff. Essentially, what it’s supposed to be used for.

    Linux…man, Linux was always one of those things I wanted to get into, but thinking critically, it would be very dumb for me to do. Almost every single thing I do is required by a Windows app. Critical and niche shit, mind you. So essentially, it’d be the Tor situation all over again. I’d be doing effectively everything worthless on Linux while molesting my computer for a VM for windows, which I would be doing on a daily basis for practically as long as I use the computer. So I’m practically stuck being a normie. I try to do everything I can to stop all these companies and shit tracking me and have my machine running faster, like running scripts to debloat windows, but in the end, it doesn’t amount to too much. I’m stuck a normie, no matter how much of a poser I act.

    • NebLem
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      Wine and crossover can probably meet the needs of most of your windows app needs at this point, which realistically aren’t a lot if you look into it, and keep a windows vm / cloud instance handy. Why not try a vm of Linux on your windows machine (or use WSL) to get your toes in the water to see if your assumptions are still correct today?

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        I tried. I have very peculiar needs, I’m not joking when I say I use shitty old programs from before the millennium AT LEAST EVERY WEEK. Very specific niches that I have found no solutions for on Linux.

        Essentially, I need Windows for it’s main selling point. Insane compatibility on software from every field. And until Linux can actually RIVAL windows instead of presenting Fisher price alternatives, I’m forced to stay with the shackles of blasphemy.

        I’ve tried it in the past. The actual UI and the general process of doing things was the least of my issues. I’m not loyal to Windows or anything at all, I can easily get used to that.

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      Props for even actively thinking about it, that’s always the first step! If you want to switch to Linux I recommend first switching to apps that run on both Linux and Windows. They exist for almost every use case, and you can migrate gradually app by app.

      • @[email protected]
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        That’s unfortunately simply untrue. You can’t, with a straight face, claim that there is any actual competition to Photoshop, Revit or a myriad of other, non-programming use-cases. It’s easy to use Linux when you’re a developer, it’s almost impossible if you’re an architect. Sure, you can use wine. Good luck, half of photoshop builds are borked. All Revit has garbage rating on wine. You just can’t professionally escape windows if you’re in a wrong profession.

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          This is sadly just true. At least I as an artist could decide to bite the bullet with Clip Studio and learn Krita instead which is not THAT inferior. But to tell a Photoshop professional to switch to GIMP is simply stupid. If only Affinity ported their crap to Linux…

          Hopefully with China moving to openKylin, there may be more adoption for the Linux desktop, and it hopefully maybe will incentivize corporations to port their stuff. But for now, yeah.

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          I mean, I’m talking about switching IF there are apps for your workflow on Linux. If not then of course this is not (yet?) an option for you. But that’s exactly why I say switch app by app, so you can figure out if your workflow would actually work. Afaik many people don’t switch because the apps they are used to don’t exist on Linux, not because there are no replacements. And as a side effect, most Linux apps are open source, so even switching to just some of those is still a good thing.

    • illectrility
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      First of all, if you want to get into Linux, DO IT! It’s truly awesome, I love it. Just get Mint, throw a Windows skin over it and nobody will notice, trust me. Honestly, it’s incredibly rewarding.

      When it comes to browsers, I now have the best setup I could think of: LibreWolf. It’s a hardened version of Firefox. It doesn’t use TOR and all websites are accesible. I use Startpage as a search engine. Granted, it can be a bit slow but it gets great results and there is a button that lets you open websites via a Startpage proxy. LibreWolf by default erases all browser data on exit so for logins I use KeePassXC password manager. It has an awesome addon which automatically fills in login fields, it can do TOTP and autofill that, too. It’s pretty great.

      For mobile KeePassDX is great

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    I guess I am a cross between “Normie” and “Conservative”. I use macOS and Fedora daily, I watch MKBHD but also watch FOSS YouTubers. I use WhatsApp, but only because, in Netherlands, it’s impossible to live without it. I don’t use any Chromium, and I use Firefox, but I also use Safari.

    Fuck getting labeled.

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    I watched one HTML video 5 years ago, and now I’m using a De-Googled phone, Linux, and get a more paranoid than I should when I see and Echo Dot. This is not what I signed up for…

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    Every attempt of me trying to use Linux on my main desktop (I do use it on other systems just fine) ends up with something not working due to Nvidia + Wayland or whatever. I kind of just want to get stuff done with my computer, and so me trying several Linux distributions rarely gets further than the experimentation stage. Windows 10 LTSC just works and whatever Linux distributions I tried eventually got in my way so much that I just couldn’t be bothered anymore.

    Not sure how much of a “healthy balance” Windows 10 LTSC + O&O ShutUp10 is, but I’m fine with it.

    I never understood why people embrace Brave so much, I tried it a few times, but it just feels like a bloated version of Google Chrome to me with all its crypto crap. Firefox is solid, but I hop between browsers a lot, and I’m currently using the closed-source browser Vivaldi.

    I even gave in to VS Code a while ago because it’s widely supported with extensions for pretty much every language, framework and library imaginable. I tried JetBrains products (and I have an ongoing yearly license for their “All Products Pack”) but I found some quirks/bugs where I had endless conversations with their support team not being able to fix the problem, and so I kind of moved on from that as well (except for DataGrip). My favorite editor of all time is Sublime Text to be honest, but it doesn’t have good support for modern tooling anymore, and it can be quite cumbersome to get LSP to work right for your use case. I might give it another go at some point.

    I guess I’m somewhere between the normie and the conservative.