Yeah, I’ve been messing around with LM Studio for a few weeks/months now and compared to the alternatives, that’s about the easiest thing out there. Setup through Command Line seems to be the norm outside of that. I was just messing around with trying to install the ChromaDB plugin for LM Studio and ran into that issue of the command line again. Like I don’t know if they’re talking about just the generic Windows Command Line program, if Git needs to be installed, is it in a python environment or does python need installed, and the guides I’ve tried going through seem to just skip over these basic steps and just assume you already know exactly what they’re talking about, that seems like a regular thing, just not enough preliminary explanation.

Like, I’ve had some experience with coding over the years in various languages, but I’m used to a certain amount of hand-holding for basic guides, something like, “You’ll need this installed from here, go ahead and load up this thing, blah blah blah.” In most of the tutorials I’ve been seeing for anything related to LLMs or AI image generators or whatever, there’s just rarely any acknowledgement of complete newbies to the process, it’s just assumed you know everything they’re talking about already. I realize it’s alot of copy/pasting and it’s pretty straight-forward, but it feels like many guides are just glossing over really basic need-to-know info.

How else you gonna get free pony porn?

You made me chuckle. But let’s all agree that learning to use git is a ball ache and isn’t very intuitive. Throw repositories into the mix and lay people just aren’t gonna get it. I think using git should be taught in highschool IT classes though, most people will never use it, but it will massively help those who do need to learn it.

We NEED a rated R season 3 and that bitch will give me the script! …

… /s

That’s just malicious compliance. They know they shouldn’t provide easy access because it may increase accountability. It’s silly

Not really, no. There’s a releases section where the developer can upload an exe for example but it’s really not easy to tell that that’s where you need to go if you just want to use the program/script, etc and you’re not a tech savvy person.

So yeah, the UI could be improved on that front.

To strain your metaphor, I think what most people are looking for is a sign that says “FOOD COURT THIS WAY ->”

If they just had a prominent link to “download latest stable version” in a consistent place, people wouldn’t be so confused (and devs wouldn’t have to do extra work to try and make it obvious).

That’s on point. They should have a restaurant there at least. Smh. /S

I know how to do it but I’m not selfish enough to forget how it was the first times. You won’t convince me it’s user friendly

It’s more like going to a restaurant expecting them to make a recipe but instead they tell you to select this random list of things and then they cook it (like US Mongolian bbq places).

If you know what you’re doing you get a good meal. If not? Ketchup on rice.

What’s the problem with github and what would you use to publish software or computer files instead?

While it may have begun that way (and may still be the overwhelming use case, idk the breakdown) devs are using it for FOSS releases, and that’s where the ‘less literate’ crowd enters. Sourceforge was very simple to use, and had a consistent layout. GitHub wasn’t meat to be a SF replacement, but here we are having this discussion

Plenty of developers also use GitHub for software distribution for end users, so that’s where the problems lie. I’m not saying GitHub should change their UI to match something the site wasn’t made for, but it’s still an issue for people who choose to use it that way.

But it is often additionally used as a software package distribution platform, so it would be helpful for some developers to reach their users by having a clearer path to the most current release.

I can personally do without a special button, and the op is obviously making a joke, but why not improve the UX for some users? It’s certainly possible to do this without impacting the smelly nerds who wouldn’t use the button.

A lot of projects don’t use it or forget to update it for multiple versions so you probably aren’t missing much.

If you use it as a developer you don’t care about the releases page. You want to see the code and for latest version you just need the git tags. But I’ve also used it for stuff I just needed to run on my machine as an end-user. And for those you turn to the Releases page. That’s where pre-built binaries go.

But it also depends on the target audience. Some projects, even if meant more as software to run than code to import, still target mainly developers or tech users in general and will not have more than just instructions on how to build them. Others, say a Minecraft launcher, or some console emulator, will target a wider audience and provide a good Releases page with binaries for multiple platforms.

I think you’re on to something haha

not only the ux, some devs make it absurdly confusing to find a binary.

I don’t want to throw anyone under the bus, but there’s this one niche app.

their github releases at one point were YEARS out of date, they only linked to the current version in seemingly random issue reports’ comments. And the current versions were some daily build artefacts you could find in a navigation tree many clicks deep in some unrelated website. And you’d better be savvy enough to download a successfully built artefact too. And even then the downloaded .zip contained all kinds of fluff unnescessary for using the app.

The app worked fine, sure, but actually obtaining it was fairly tricky, tbh.

GitHub has bad UX for a lot of things

I’ve bounced off GitHub more than once trying to figure out how to download the .exe file that I assumed must be somewhere. Honestly I still don’t understand the interface and I’ve submitted bug reports for Jeroba on there. I might have even used GitHub for a project once? Every time I look at it it’s overwhelming and confusing and none of it is self-explanatory. But, that’s fairly true for a lot of stuff in programming.

I fixed it for them

That’s not really what it’s designed for though

Excel has a bad UX for people who want to use it to make art

I’d agree, but the caveat is that github is primarily about an interface for source control and collaboration between developers for projects. The release page is really just an also-ran in terms of importance.

I swear they move the link to release page every few months.

If there isnt a link in the readme.md I could be lost for days.

The original text was not on github.

Saw it on copypasta yesterday. It’s possible this is an old screenshot and I could’ve seen the repost.

EDIT : seems I’m wrong and this is just an old picture.

At this point r/ itself is a joke community.

Why are you surprised?

As a CS student, yes absolutely. These people then complain about paper exams and when the code gets complex enough for the AI to make mistakes. I’ve seen a few people drop out in programming 2, and my web 1 class was decimated because we were doing more than leetcode exercises. It’s a real problem that so many people are using it as a crutch.

This is literally the third year of the diploma. This is not even source control. This is literally installing the software provided with the instructions provided

But as I seen both, networking is easier than programming IMO. Networking is mostly knowing a lot of things to be able to reuse that knowledge Programming is actually creating things and solutions to problems, and is more complicated, at least for me. But I still prefer it as I actually feel mentally challenged (pun intended)