Americans; If Trump wins in November, what are your plans?
Die I guess.
Too easy. I’m thinking more subversive.
I can’t afford housing here anyways so I’d genuinely expend a lot of my life savings to try to move to Europe, at least temporarily. Yes, yes, “everywhere has its problems”. I just want new problems I guess.
Already working on getting permanent residency in another country that doesn’t share a border with the U.S. Not specifically because of loser Trump but we will be more likely to use it if that fucker finds his way back to office.
Honestly, I would be shocked if he ever wins another election or somehow manages to come out on top. He lost by a lot of votes last time. Since then, we watched him on TV while he incited an insurrection, his subsequent behavior suggests he may want to start a civil war, a jury determined he is a rapist, and enough other shit to write a book series.
His post-presidency career is selling NFT’s, shoes, begging for handouts from his idiot followers, criminal defendant, and whatever other scam he thinks of when he wakes up. He’s a petty hustler who inherited money. He’s a loser.
More importantly, he is a criminal. He can’t help himself. He is going to cheat in the election because he cheats at everything. He cheats on his wife, cheats on his taxes, cheats in golf, cheated in an election. He is going to cheat and he will be caught red handed. It’s not unreasonable to wonder if he might get himself arrested for what he does in this election.
He’s already facing four criminal trials. He’s not beating 91 felony charges, especially when most of them are from the feds. They don’t lose cases and they don’t bring high profile cases unless they have the defendant dead to rights.
He is toast and he knows it, which is why he’s so desperate to delay the trials and win the presidency. He is arguably a domestic terrorist. He is arguably a national security threat. The three letter agencies are probably on him like flies on shit. If they’re not, they fucking should be. I don’t believe he will ever be permitted to set foot in the White House again, and that’s assuming he wins in the first place, which he won’t, or cheats his way to victory, which also won’t happen. He’s done.
Unfortunately I think Trump will get back in
538 suggests that he’s beating Biden in opinion polls, plus he’s far ahead of any other candidate in the Republican primaries.
The Republicans have been handed a series of crushing defeats in bi-elections post-Trump. I’m hopeful that it will carry into the federal election, especially if Alabama’s “embryos are people” law survives the supreme court.
538 is bullshit. They are wrong as often as they are right. People don’t prefer Trump to Biden or anybody else for that matter. There’s just not a lot of enthusiasm for Biden.
Biden is old and boring. Otherwise, he and his administration have been competent. He has a lot of shit on his plate between the division in our country, war with Russia, and now Israel getting into shit at the worst time possible. Iran is also simmering over there and we have the usual shit from North Korea. Throw in relations with China and this administration has as many challenges as any in recent memory.
The upside is we have a great Secretary of State and the rest of the cabinet has been pretty solid overall. And don’t forget, the administration and the Fed managed to stave off a recession in the midst of all of this, which is a pretty difficult balancing act when dealing with all these external problems requires significant government spending. The Biden administration is doing a much better job than people realize.
In contrast, Trump fucks up everything he touches. Half these problems have his fingerprints all over them to begin with. A reasonable person knows he is not a good executive, even-tempered or capable of engaging with real leaders. This is a guy who turned a $5M judgement against him into $83M because he can’t control himself. He is stupid and reckless. Do you trust him to sit across from a guy like Xi Jinping? I sure as hell don’t. One of leads 1.6 billion people with an iron fist and the other is a clown masquerading as a mafioso.
For Trump to win, he would have to get a lot more votes than he did during the last election in which he was more or less trounced. I just don’t see that happening. Who didn’t vote for him last time and is looking at him now and thinking he’s the guy? He is the worst presidential candidate in the history of our country by a long shot.
Try not to leave the house too much. For four years.
Probably laugh at all the socialists that crossed their arms and refused to vote when they whine about how shitty things are going to be- while knowing they could have changed things had they not stayed home.
And drink a lot.
I’ll just go on living my life in Norway, fielding questions left and right like “is it really that bad/racist/scary in America?”.
Just finished reading a book during WW2 and damn. These comments, they’re eerily similar.
My state will be largely unaffected, we’ll still have decision makers of the opposite extreme.
Waiting to buy a house until after this election. Blue enough city doesn’t matter.
Resist as much as possible without getting killed. BTW, I’m an Old-White-Guy Boomer. Not all people in my generation are lining up to kiss Trump’s ass…
And neither are some of the younger ones who they might have counted on in the past… I just hope it’s enough.
It’s important for the left to recognise that boomers as a whole also represent a group of people who face significant systemic challenges, and that the real enemy is capitalism and the power structures that maintain it as the status quo.
Shouldn’t the generation that “got theirs” pay the piper though?
Not all boomers are wealthy
We need a class war; not a culture war.
“Significant systemic challenges” such as…?
They’ve had it better than us at every stage of life and have trashed everything for those coming after them. If they are facing challenges now, they’re lucky.
As they do now, capitalists are to blame for what previous generations have had, not the generation themselves. While the boomer generation may have profited by the direct disenfranchisement of others, the same is inherently true of almost anyone who participates in capitalism.
Hating boomers for being born when they were is prejudice plain and simple, while we may face our own modern issues they had their own when they were younger. More recently there’s lovely stuff like elder abuse that’s rampant in aged care.
The leftist cooks did a great video on the topic that I’d recommend watching rather than listening to me, I’m no expert on the topic, I just think social cohesion is important and we need to keep in mind who really causes our problems.
Have to upvote the Leftist Cools and their 2 hour videos.
They have made changes to the system they profited from so that others cannot do the same. It has nothing to do with ageism
I don’t dislike boomers because of when they were born. I dislike boomers because the right wing ones are assholes and idiots. They blame the younger generations for the problems they caused and they’re actively trying to burn down our country because they believe the bullshit they’re fed by fox “news” and wannabe dictator tRump.
That’s exactly my point.
Hate shit people, don’t hate people who belong to a demographic. There are lots of awesome boomers.
Thank you for your comments. I was getting caught up in the hate rhetoric for “boomers” in general, forgetting who perpetuated these issues we face today.
Thinking back, I know I said some shitty things to older friends and family, who were just trying to get along in life like everyone else.
Just going to hope that the Democratic institution is strong enough to survive another 4 years.
Judging by the Arkansas supreme court elections it doesn’t look like it. 2 seats opening, 4 judges currently holding seats are running for them. If they lose they keep their current seat, if they win they take the new seat and resign their old. Those positions are then filled by the Governor without need of an election. Aka stacking the courts through loop holes.
Hunker down, pre budget anticipating more layoffs. I’m “lucky” in that I’m cis, white, male, married, too old for draft. So will also spend my time looking after folks in my community that don’t have those keywords. I am already a friend to all, but will think double about their needs/concerns. (Obviously respecting their privacy). Try to volunteer more than normal.
Same. If it comes to it, I’ll be a stop on another Underground Railroad. I hope it doesn’t come to it.
Unfortunately if the U.S. gets really bad, everywhere will get really bad. If Trump does putin’s bidding, then it will creat power vacuums around the world and will lead to wars. Leaving might be less safe than staying.
Or it won’t be as bad as predicted and it will just be very bad. Then I’m not sure.
I’ve been stockpiling currencies and practicing another language, while looking into citizenship through my heritage. Also been reading a lot of info over on resisters.info I’ve never really been one to worry about stuff like politics to this degree, but the world as a whole is just getting so crazy and I just want to be able to live a peaceful life, so I want to prepare incase.
Probably leave the country for a while. That’s one of the nice things about being dual citizen. I understand this doesn’t work for everybody, and there are probably other maybe better responses, but that’s my first thought.
