Humans are emotional and tribal creatures. Hopefully we’ll merge soon.
Leftists: never show up to vote
Also leftists: nothing ever gets done. Both parties must be the same
Edit:
More info from Pew 2022 election polls:
Age and the 2022 election Age continues to be strongly associated with voting preferences in U.S. elections. Nearly seven-in-ten voters under 30 (68%) supported Democratic candidates in 2022 – much higher than the shares of voters ages 30 to 49 (52%), 50 to 64 (44%) and 65 and older (42%) who did so. Compared with 2018, GOP candidates performed better among voters who turned out across age groups.
Also:
Older voters turned out more reliably in both elections – and continued to be largely loyal to Republican candidates.
Only a sith deals in absolutes
Please describe the grey area here lol
well, it’s grey, and it’s about yea big, kinda roundy-squarish with some triangles thrown in, and it’s empty except for all the stuff. you’d like it! I sure do.
The grey area is individual thinking and discussion. But you don’t like doing that anymore because tribalism is fun. And anyone who doesn’t join you in that is apparently your enemy, so… Sith
I’m glad you didn’t bring any of that I individual thinking or discussion with you when asked, so not Sith or Jedi, maybe like like remedial gungan?
Jar Jar was a Sith Lord.
Any how…. What are talking about again?
So you’re Sith then and your grey area argument is actually shit? Idk what are we talking about?
Look, all I’m saying is…
Sorry man I agree he’s a sith lord, but I thought you were the original dingus in the thread not a newcomer lol. Too many threads going on
For some points there isn’t even a discussion to be made like with the extermination of homosexual and trans people
Are centrists generally okay with extermination of humans? Who are we actually talking about?
I think the meme is referencing people that say both sides of the political spectrum(in the us) are equally as bad and not the actual political spectrum
I guess it’s a matter of perspective, what I doubt is that anyone is hearing both of those messages simultaneously and then calling them the same.
What I do hear from people is legit callouts of stupidity on either side which doesn’t always equate the two but suggests that cooler heads prevail. What I’d like is more rigorous standards for being able to keep a public office position. We need actual leaders across the board to stop all this tribalism shit
How do you define “actual leaders”?
You’re dealing in an absolute by saying that.
I’m actually just quoting Obi Wan. It’s a response to Anakin’s very sith-like statement
Yes, I know. However, Obi-wan was dealing in an absolute, there.
Part of the theme of Star Wars is that the Jedi brought on their own destruction due to their outdated and foolish aspects of their ideology.
100%
At this point I’m ok with exterminating the label people. Keep your labels to yourself and try really hard to solve a problem without them.
nobody denies that it’s hard, being incredibly stupid.
But if it stays hard, call a doctor.
Imagine thinking this is how normal people think 🤣
Why would I care about what so-called normal people think? Most of them are boring and care about football far more than about the direction their country is going in.
👌👍 you are posting a meme about them
Definitely don’t care.
No, I’m posting a meme about politically-aware people, not “normal” people, whatever you think those are.
I am guessing what you consider “normal” is white, Christian, heterosexual and cisgender as well.
👌👍 I guess the center is small
So small as to not exist. Because “the center” is actually on the right. The Overton Window has moved very far.
Blah blah blah blah blah moving goal posts 🙄
Whatever your want to believe the center just isn’t as progressive as you like. They aren’t equating Nazis to your softened view is the extreme left.
Please name some progressive centrist policies.
I can tell them apart, but the result of the two is the same because once you centralize power (to get more leftist stuff done faster), those with power realize that the far-right offers dictators more. See Russia, for starters. Look at lists of what countries have the smallest percentage of poor people - it’s all social-ish democracies like Iceland, Japan, and France.
Good lord… the comments on here proves that lemmy.world is flooded with politically incompetent libs that couldn’t tell the difference between left and right if their lives depended on it.
If you believe that there is such a thing as an actual “left” in formal political establishments, this means you.
But isn’t being forced to pay taxes a form of extermination?!
Extermination of inequalities
FAR LEFT IN SOUTH AMERICA : let’s do deals with dictators and narco generals.
The answer is always in the middle. Let’s do a little basic needs but only for the rich and a little genocide but only in the middle east
If by centrists, you mean neo-liberal Democrats, you got it.
I would not mean those people because I would consider them to be on the right. I mean people to the left of them but not left enough to reject corporate influence and embrace ideas like socialized medicine and housing.
I guess I see neo-liberals (focusing on white liberalism as a political movement) as not seeing themselves on the right. They think of themselves as being on the left, but are effectively antagonistic towards leftist policies, a highlighted example of this being the tension between “mainstream” Democrats and the progressive caucus within the Democratic party. White liberalalist ideology is fundamentally Neo-liberal and anti-revolutionary. Bipartisanship, institutionalism, incrementalism, these are the hallmarks of white liberalism. They extend from the ideals of a class of people who benefit from the existing structures in society. They don’t support racisim ‘explcity’ but they do benefit from it implicitly, and so support the institutions that build a racist society. In this way they can ‘oppose’ racism, but still benefit from it. They support ‘change’ but only want to pursue it in nickels and dimes, unwilling to commit to universal programs that benefit everyone (Obamacare is a perfect example of this). White-liberals have no problem making common cause with explicitly fascist or racist groups, because to them the politeness of society is more important than its outcomes. Not Nazis, but willing to caucus with them. See the recent border vote for an example of this.
Its easy and convenient to see right-wing fascist as the entirety of the problem, but those people would have no ability to drive their agenda forward if not for white liberals. White liberalism ineffectual approach to governing, disinterest in revolutionary or universal programs, and insistence on decorum and appearances is fundamental to why the right-wing has been so effective and capable in furthering their project and agenda. This is why everyone should be challenged by the blue-no-matter-who arguments. All you have to do is look at the previous 24 years of history to recognize that this is a fundamentally white-liberal argument (as in, a direct extension of white liberalism as a political philosophy). Its not working. It hasn’t worked. It doesn’t work. We shouldn’t expect it to work in the future. IT results in the worst possible match ups to win elections. If you are a leftist, it leaves you strategically vulnerable at every possible turn and historically has generated only negative progress.
White-liberalism is the second partner in a dance with white-nationalism towards fashism. White nationalists simply would not have been able to progress their agenda this far without it. It wasn’t just the Nazis that drove Germany into fascism. It was also the other parties who empowered, emboldened, and appeased the Nazis in their pursuit of power, which is precisely what we see ‘moderate’ Democrats doing today. If you want to deal with the rise of fascism in the US, you need to address white liberalisms control of the Democratic party first.
MLK knew.
yeah well, people here don’t.
Well, it’s hard to tell liberals and conservatives apart, mostly because liberalism isn’t left wing, but actually slightly right from centre, and both liberalism and conservativism share some similarities.
This is what McCarthyism did. It’s the great goal post mover.
I’d say slightly center from right
Liberalism is solidly right of center, its Social Democracy that is slightly right of center. Conservativism is just fascism.
Conservatives:
Liberals: “no nazis or bigots. We want fair pay and basic human rights”
Wow, it’s so hard to see the difference.
CPAC organizers did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
How does that change anything? In the past they were willing to eject these people, but not this time.
It doesn’t. I just found it funny they expected a comment. The news not calling this fascism is why it’s going to get worse.
I doubt they actually expected a comment. Reaching out for a comment is just part of what you do as a journalist.
I used to think that the type of hatred displayed by the filth guy was a small backwards group ina larger whole, but I’m not seeing anyone else in the larger whole, who might be less ridiculous, saying anything about the fridges. It makes them all appear the same.
This is a basic example of issues caused by not policing extremist views within your own group, or a group being too big and not representing the majority of people’s views.
why do people say these thing when they know its not true
