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Today i was doing the daily ritual of looking at distrowatch. Todays reveiw section was about a termal called warp, it has built in AI for recomendations and correction for commands (like zhs and nushell). You can also as a chatbot for help. I think its a neat conscept however the security is what makes me a bit skittish. They say the dont collect data and you can check it aswell as opt out. But the idea of a terminal being read by an Ai makes me hesitant aswell as a account needed to use warp. What do you guys think?
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As long as AI is not being forced into the existing terminal standards, it’s good, as you can just choose to not use a terminal with AI.
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Sounds like a major security risk. All it takes is one “hallucination” (and an overly trusting engineer) from the latest and greatest bullshit generator to compromise an entire network
Yeah. Sometimes a “barrier to entry” on running commands serves as an important forced pause to help prevent people from charging headfirst into dangerous options they don’t understand.
It’s something I often have to consider at work. It’s not too hard to script out ways to make it easier to do certain things, but is the trade off of making it easier to do accidentally or without understanding the full effects worse than the hassle of doing it the “hard way”?
Yes, let’s get a list of all machines in this network segment, then loop through sending shutdown commands so everything is ready for the hardware move!
What do you mean that the switch itself is in the list of machines? And that I just shut it off prematurely, so now we need to shut down everything locally… shit.
(Details fudged to protect the guilty)
I’m likely going to try out Wave Terminal with a self hosted LLM. I think it may well be quite useful, just don’t want to upload my entire command history to OpenAI.
Let me know if you get that working! That would be super cool.
I’m neutral towards AI, what I can’t wrap my head around is forcing users to sign in / sign up to use offline apps. Fuck you too, Postman.
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You can thank me later.
Thank you, I have tried Insomnia in the past but it doesn’t work for my team as they refuse to implement pre-request scripts properly. I assume insomnium is the same.
Well that’s a new way to
rm -rf /No thx
Fish’s autocomplete is enough for me. I do like having Copilot in my editor but I can’t really think of a reason I’d need it in my terminal. Most of my time in the terminal is just installing things, git or moving things around and I have all those commands down as muscle memory.
I’ll just use ChatGPT standalone, lol. Or cheat.sh.
If I have to use a cloud service or create an account to use the terminal, it’s a no for me dawg.
Did warp ever follow through with allowing folks to use it without signing into your GitHub account?
To help make skittish people feel at ease with the concept, why not give it a friendly on-screen avatar? Perhaps something like a cute little animated paperclip.
I prefer a glowing red dot
I dunno. Maybe an orange dog? Give it big brown ears.
Also animate it at ~10fps, making it visibly sad when it can’t retrieve the files you ask for.
Throw in a little whimsical wizard while you’re at it.
Purple monkey or bust
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Bad idea
AI that can auto generate all those command line arguments I keep forgetting? Sure.
Closed source terminal that requires account? No way.
And also, like… Data privacy… My terminal commands and command outputs contain sensitive data. Even company sensitive data. I don’t want to be liable.
I don’t like generative AI in my tools. The little prompt that explains a command and arguments that can be passed as you type is nice, I will give it that, but AI should not be any part of it. Fuck right off with it.
I feel like every use case they showcase is useless if you remember the commands. And if you don’t know a command, the classic googling until you find something that works usually does the trick.
So I took some time to look around and as far as my perspective as a non dev regular user. While this does seem like a useful tool that could be useful for someone who interacts with the command line on a infrequent basis, the drawbacks on it seem pretty big.
- Everywhere on their website seems clear that they don’t store your data, but I have trouble believing that? Why on earth they would need for you to create a account that you must log in to use the terminal if they don’t have a need to monitor your data?
- While they claim that they are intending to monetize this by charging enterprise users and letting small teams use it for free, they limit free requests to 20 per dday which seems less than useless.
- Maybe this is just some confusion since I don’t have any experience as an enterprise but it seems like it would be an unacceptable security risk having a program that it telling you that it sends telemetry back home that users are interacting with using sudo and elevated privileges. Especially when it is a closed box.
Ignoring all the reasons to be cautious and skeptical about AI in general I struggle to see the use case for this particular tool.
And now I am imagining some sophisticated hack that breaches their AI generator and starts slipping command arguments that might expose your system. Probably too much of an effort but still plausible.
