When I signed up for Lemmy, I didn’t know about some wars that existed between instances, and when I chose lemmy.ml I thought, “Why not?”. Tbh, dont think too much about instances.

I signed up because I wanted to get the full Lemmy experience, but I don’t know if some instances block the instance I’m connected , and this is a bit confusing for me. At the beginning, when I joined Lemmy, I remember reading that it is advisable to choose the instance carefully, and I even assume that it was my mistake, but I think it could be a little easier for those who enter the fediverse. I guess. Know nothing at this time.

So, the question is there. Do you judge members by instance? I’m just a normal guy; I don’t like the extreme right or extreme communism. In fact, I think all extremism is stupid. But , if you could enlighten me on this, I would appreciate it.

At this point, I don’t know if I’m blocked by some instances or not. Basically, I want to enjoy having the entire Lemmy experience, where I could read all types of content.

EDIT: during this time, maybe some people judge members because the instance. And I dont like that feel if someone think “oh look this dude, is from lemmy.ml, he is extremist communist, for sure”. However, I’m not. Im just a normal guy without any politic side.

  • @[email protected]
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    Yeah I made this account first before hopping to one more suited for me. Didnt turn out well there but generall if you’re pretty new i imagine most people arent too attached to their instance

  • Cowbee [he/they]
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    Yes and no. I don’t judge immediately, but if someone says something sus, and their instance matches the sus vibe, then I judge.

  • @[email protected]
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    People, myself included, aren’t fond of lemmy.ml because it pretends to be a privacy-centric instance but it’s actually run by people who defend any and every criticism of Russia and China under the guise of critiquing capitalism.

    They commonly say that any bad news about China or Russia is western propaganda while everything from their state-run “news” platforms is gospel.

    They’re unable to say that two things are true at once, like capitalism is a pure shit system AND China and Russia are fucked for a million reasons specific to them.

    People get banned from their server for saying that China is anything but a utopian dream.

    And then, yes, people unfairly assume that you must be cool with all that because you’re using their instance. If you’re not married to the idea of staying there, I’d suggest deleting your account and using a different instance.

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      When I first found about Lemmy I landed on join-lemmy.org, which told me lemmy.ml is big instance ran by the Lemmy developers, so it sounded like the most “default” option.

      Now this thread tells me it has some political affiliation and many people judge/block it… How is someone who only found out about Lemmy supposed to know this.

    • @[email protected]
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      Last week I made a comment on some post on the /all page. The post was about china and my comment was fairly china positive, imo. A couple hours later I opened my phone again and my inbox was flooded with weird responses as if I had insulted someone’s mother. Turned out it was a post on lemmy.ml. I have the instance blocked now.

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        I use lemmy.today. The admin there has explicitly stated in the server rules that they want to try to avoid defederation with other instances – that is, have the users make the decisions as to what they see, not the instance admin. They’re US West Coast, and I think l’d take instance location into account when picking a home instance too, since it affects snappiness.

        You can look at the server rules for lemmy instances in the sidebar in the Web UI. You can also see which instances they’ve defederated with, and that can also give you an idea.

        Currently, lemmy.today has no defederated instances:

        https://lemmy.today/instances

        Keep in mind that there’s a lot of stuff out there on the Threadiverse, including far-left and far-right instances. You’ve got instances that have porn communities, like lemmynsfw.com. burggit.moe has lolicon and consentual-nonconsentual content. Some people may want defederation with some instances to ensure that a new community on such an instance doesn’t show up in their All feed – depends on how much you want someone else to censor for you.

      • @[email protected]
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        None, that’s the point. Your experience and what you see depend upon you and your choices. There’s no true Lemmy experience. The freedom and flexibility is the core of federation. You choose what your experience is, not a central arbitrary algorithm written by a for profit megacorp.

      • edric
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        You’ll have to decide on your own. Pick a couple of instances that interest you, then check the list of instances they are federated/defederated with. If you really want to see everything, then pick one that hasn’t defederated with a lot of other instances.

        I personally like lemm.ee because the admin is cool and they don’t haphazardly defederate at the slightest inconvenience.

      • RandomStickman
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        41 year ago

        A kbin or mbin instance might have the most amount of federation/least restrictive if that’s what you’re concerned with. It’s not lemmy based, but it’s similar.

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          Kbin.social definitely blocks a lot of nsfw content, but I also see a lot of nsfw communities not being federated on mbin either. At least from lemmynsfw, I’m not too deep into this to know any other with that type of content but that one at least pops up semi-frequently. Might be also possible that kbin / mbin manually lowers the 18+ content in their algorithm so it doesn’t show up as much. Kinda feels like a lot of the 18+ content from let’s say the Ukraine war also doesn’t show up as much on my feed. If I for comparison sake look into my Lemmy based account on mobile then I see a lot of boobies on the general feed.

          • RandomStickman
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            K/Mbin hides NSFW posts by default and I haven’t try turning it off so I wouldn’t know how it looks without it enabled.

  • Scrubbles
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    221 year ago

    I don’t judge users for their instance. I’ll judge mods and admins for what they promote and allow, but not users. Unless they’re tankies from lemmygrad.

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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    Here in the States politics is kinda important. Anyone not voting against the Republican party (meaning voting for the next popular guy, typically a Democrat) is consenting to the Republican push toward autocracy and a one-party state.

    Most folk are either committed to preserving the democratic features of the US, or are devoted to ushering in the new order. Those in the latter case are aligned with the transnational white power movement or the Christian nationalist movement.

    It’s a very contentious movement and lives by the millions are at stake with civil war and a mass purge operation both on the table.

    If you’re in the US, you might want to get informed of what is going on. Those in the movement have little tolerance for centrists or those not loyal to Trump. And those resisting MAGA could use the help.

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    All else held equal, I’d guess that someone on a .ml instance – which is chosen to refer to “Marxism-Leninism” --is more likely to be far left, just as someone on pawb.social is a furry, lemmy.blahaj.zone to be trans, or aussie.zone to be Australian. Does that mean that everyone on all of those instances are any of those? No, of course not.

    And lemmy.ml was the second-largest instance during the outflow from Reddit, so a lot of people just grabbed it.

    Personally, in choosing an instance, it probably wouldn’t be the one I’d choose. I also wouldn’t pick it because it’s gonna be where the latest release gets put into production first and you’re liable to crash into any issues – lemmy.world admins, for example, are far more conservative, did minimal patching to fix critical bugs rather than jumping right on 0.19, and their userbase avoided crashing into the broken 0.19 releases. On the other hand, if you’ve established an identity on lemmy.ml and are otherwise happy with it…shrugs

    Some instances, like hexbear.net or lemmygrad.ml, are far-out-there enough that some instances might defederate with the instance, which I think is probably a bigger concern. I don’t think that that’s nearly as much a risk with lemmy.ml.

  • @[email protected]
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    61 year ago

    I signed up for the first one I saw, and subscribed across instances without ever considering that people might care where you came from.

    People are going to judge. I try to not to be like people.

  • Lopen's Left Arm
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    Yep. If I see someone from hexbear, anything they’re saying I immediately ignore. Lemmy.ml is full of assholes, but they don’t advertise it that way so a lot of decent people are on there too. You can’t really judge an individual just because they’re on lemmy.ml imo.

  • @[email protected]
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    Personally I do not assume anything about a user’s instance (or look at it at all usually). But I do pay attention to the instance a community belongs to, because some instances have significant numbers of hostile people that belong to them (Lemmy.ml is a prominent example). Personally I would not want to belong to that instance because it would put me into more contact with those people.

    I think there are some instances that are more averse to defederation, and based on what you’ve said, those might be a better home for you.

  • Pepsi
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    11 year ago

    why is everyone judging me for the people I choose to associate with?

  • 👍Maximum Derek👍
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    21 year ago

    For the most part I judge communities based on their instance, not the people. I might be more inclined to block you if you can something sketchy but probably not. But if a server get super toxic/tankie, I may block the whole server. lemmy.ml isn’t there yet.

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    If you’re on lemmygrad or hexbear I will immediately dismiss pretty much anything you say and assume you aren’t worth interacting with. Otherwise I don’t put a lot of stock into what instance a user belongs to. Sometimes your instance can indicate that you have certain interests (technology based instances, startrek.website) or how you identify (blahaj.zone, pawb.social, etc).

    I have a lot of issues with the admins of lemmy.ml, but I don’t think the users are inherently problematic. The server itself is advertised as being for privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, so I think a lot of people join without realizing the admins enforce their explicitly communist viewpoints that sometimes border on being pretty tanky.

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    Lemmy.ml is basically Lemmygrad trying to look more neutral, but actually is the same thing. That’s why I block all lemmy.ml communities that I come across. As for users I might not inherently judge them, but I do keep a close eye on them in regards to potential political statements being made, because of how many of them I’ve seen making bad faith arguments, or straight up spread disinformation and other bullshit.

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      I don’t block lemmy.ml communities, but if there are competing general-use communities (say, I dunno, gardening), and one is on lemmy.ml and one is somewhere else more-neutral, like lemmy.world, I’ll join the lemmy.world community.