The world is on fire, fascism is rising, and your god is dead.
ETA: I actually personally left the Catholic Church over their stance on trans people. I had had other issues for a long time, and was firmly pro abortion, gay marriage, and female priesthood, but those were things I thought I might see them come around on. But then I got to trying to figure out why I was so damn miserable. Long story of self discovery later I learned I’m trans and that the psychological agony I’d been in my entire pubescent life was gender dysphoria and that’s why nothing was fixing it. The Catholic Church’s stance was that I either accept easily curable pain for the rest of my life that has little downside or a loving god will punish me forever when I die. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back. I took a year off of Christianity to cleanse my palate as I transitioned expecting to go episcopal or Quaker and wound up atheist -> pagan with an understanding that I will choose gods by their morality rather than choosing my morality by my gods.
If nothing else, I’ll say that the Catholic Church really doesn’t seem to have an official stance on “transgenderism”. There’s lots of priests and bishops who will try to convince you it does, and there are plenty of them talking about how “gender ideology” is “colonizing the family” or some other similar things, but even the Pope who just said all this also says of trans women that they are “daughters of God” and meets with them regularly. There’s are groups in the church made of bishops, Cardinals, and priests who explicitly support LGBTQ people and trans people in particular.
Did you even read this article? Frank made his stance very clear that he is making trans people his enemy.
The thing is, he’s said more than one thing? He’s such a politician. He definitely says “gender ideology” is bad because it “erases differences” when he’s in front of conservative bishops, but he also genders trans folks correctly and actually talks to them and treats them kindly (according to them even) apparently regularly. I don’t know if you have been a trans woman trying to talk to a bigoted priest before, but they tend not to be great at being kind to you and they certainly don’t call me “she”.
Also worth noting that just because a Pope says it doesn’t make it the stance of the church. For all that he has basically unlimited power of government, he (and popes generally) doesn’t address major points of doctrine.
I left the Catholic Church shortly after leaving Catholic school. Like, in Catholic high school, they taught us about the “issues” (read: CA scandal) the church was “going through” and how we all need to “pray for the victims” of these “isolated incidents.” You then step into the real world and learn that the church protected monsters from the law for DECADES (and continues to do so), it really fucks with your head. In college, I went “spiritual but not religious” for a while and then landed squarely into atheism town… been a resident there now for more time than I was ever Catholic.
Inshallah
Wasn’t he the one to come out in support of homosexuality? Or was it just to justify the morality behind diddling little boys?
“You are as god made you”
“No no no, not like that, I mean white and cis”
I’m upvoting this, not because I agree with it, but because it is relevant for this community. Like it or not (and I certainly don’t), the Catholic Church has massive global power. Knowing where they stand on this issue is important, especially since this Pope, seemingly, has been trying to appear more progressive.
The pope did not read the full address, instead delegating the task to Monsignor Filippo Ciampanelli. “I still have a cold and it’s tiring to read for a while,” the pope said to the participants assembled at the Vatican.
Where’s your god now? Can’t even give his #1 on earth the strength to mumble his message of hate. Fucking losers.
It’s about the challenge and how we rise to overcome it in our celebration of God.
Or something like that I don’t know I’m not really religious.
“it’s okay he’s a good guy he ate spaghetti with Italian trans women”
Today the ugliest danger is
gender ideologyreligion.Always has been.
A “fun” game when reading quotes from bigots is to swap out “gender ideology” with “bodily autonomy” to realize how absurd, hateful, and fascist the message really is. That’s really what we’re talking about; being trans isn’t a choice but expressing your true gender is somewhat* a choice you make with your body and aesthetic. Fascists don’t want people to have freedom, they want to have power over you for power’s sake. The pushback against “gender ideology” isn’t the reasoned philosophic debate that they want it to sound like, it’s a war against already-marginalized people. It’s “a boot stamping on a human face” because power is both the means and the ends for these fucks. Anyone supporting these assholes should ask themselves what happens if they finally succeed to stamp out the queer menace. Fascists’ continued existence requires another group to persecute and if history is any guide it will be religious minorities, racial minorities, political rivals, etc. until the world is empty and there is no “fruitful ‘tension” that Pope Franky states that he values so much aside from the powerful and those that they decided to keep as slaves.
*somewhat because for many the choice is transition or suicide
I’ve been waiting for him to to do something like this. It was too good to have a pope that didn’t seem evil.
Well after pope palpatine they decided to go in the other direction for a while i guess
“today the ugliest danger is gender ideology, which cancels out differences”
Well I’m glad he said the misogynistic part out loud. In a religion in which only men can hold power, blurring the lines between who can be a man undermines their power structure. They see women as inferior chattel and the strict gender binary allows them to enforce their hegemony. I suppose the pope thinks that LGBT* people around the world being murdered and persecuted is a good thing as long as the cis white straight men get to stay in power.
Your position is a joke, and everyone with 2 brain cells can tell that it can only exist by enslaving half of the population and trying to murder another 2%. Like any good tiny dictator, you don’t inspire respect for people to follow you, you reach for the cudgel of violence, and make no mistake, your words inspire violence just as much as if you lit the torches yourself. Your god will judge you accordingly.
Aren’t there multiple genocides going on right now?
To be fair, genocide is nowhere near as bad as a man wearing a dress or something.
As asserted by a guy who chose a non-reproductive life of celibacy, hangs out with a bunch of fellas in dresses and bases his opinions on stories preceding the Dark Ages.
So maybe let’s not listen?
Two steps forward, one step backwards I guess
No steps forward…
I’m referring to the pope’s acceptance of gay marriage
The prince of PDF files should pipe down
Transgendered people are an abomination, but fuckin a kid? Now, well, that’s just god’s will.
