Treating everyone the same is a problem though. Mostly men and women are different and accepting that is Good and healthy.
Yep. People differ from each other, and one common way is along gender lines. Doesn’t mean everyone of a particular gender is the same. …but, if there weren’t differences, there would be no need for identifying with one, or the other, or both, or neither.
No but we are getting to the point where solutions to problems are one size fit all. And healthy things in one gender must be a good solution for the other gender and that’s not thr case.
True for gender sometimes, and true just for people in general most of the time. Generalization, whether about gender or gender-neutrality, or an any other area, can be useful when right, and harmful when wrong. Like any tool, forcible application is likely to break either the tool or what one applies it to.
Gender ideology, which seeks to blur differences between men and women through movements such as transgenderism, “makes everything the same,” Francis said.
No mate, your paedophile organisation is an actual danger, genocide in the name of religion is a danger, Christianity is a danger.
Trans people are not a danger. Non-binary people are not a danger.
How will the priests, bishops, cardinals etc. know who to molest if they can’t tell the boys from girls? And then what if they can’t? They just STOP molesting people? Then what? Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… MASS HYSTERIA!
I know a Ghostbusters reference from a mile away…
MASS HYSTERIA!
Seeing as how we’re talking about the Catholic Church, hysteria at Mass seems relevant. 😉
Many many years ago, I saw a doco during a high school health class. It had stuff about gender identity, and included an interview from the 80’s with George Pell. He was ranting about how fashion these days was too androgynous, and you couldn’t tell the girls from the boys.
That was the first I ever heard from that man, and immediately disliked him.
Interesting to see where he ended up.
Google says he died in January 2023. So six feet under is where he ended up.
After he spent too long as a powerful pedo priest.
If CPS agents sent by Greg Abbott come knocking on my door because some teacher at my kid’s school reports me for having a transgender kid, my non-binary ass will definitely be a danger.
I’m laughing hysterically at the people who downvoted you for making an objective statement of fact in our present day.
Fuck the catholic church, tax the fuckers into non-existence.
I’m upvoting this, not because I agree with it, but because it is relevant for this community. Like it or not (and I certainly don’t), the Catholic Church has massive global power. Knowing where they stand on this issue is important, especially since this Pope, seemingly, has been trying to appear more progressive.
Religion is a poison. Why can’t they just let people be
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I can’t believe there’s people giving 10% for a bunch of lies.
He said while wearing a beadazzled cloak, long skirt, and ballet flats.
Two steps forward, one step backwards I guess
No steps forward…
I’m referring to the pope’s acceptance of gay marriage
Aren’t there multiple genocides going on right now?
To be fair, genocide is nowhere near as bad as a man wearing a dress or something.
As asserted by a guy who chose a non-reproductive life of celibacy, hangs out with a bunch of fellas in dresses and bases his opinions on stories preceding the Dark Ages.
So maybe let’s not listen?
“It is very important that there is this meeting, this meeting between men and women, because today the ugliest danger is gender ideology, which cancels out differences,” the pope said during an audience with members of the French-based academic organization Research and Anthropology of Vocations Institute (CRAV).
He’s demanding that everyone conform to his narrow worldview… in the name of preserving our differences?
That’s some impressive mental gymnastics, even for a Pope.
Huh. Fascism is on the rise everywhere. The planet is being destroyed by greedy billionaires. People are struggling to pay for food. There are wars and genocides. But he thinks the ugliest danger is “gender ideology”, whatever that is.
And he says it erases differences. If “gender ideology” is being a non-bigot about gender, then that respects differences. What erases differences is forcing everyone to conform to only two set gender stereotypes.
It’s saddening that dogma prevents him seeing how dramatically advances in understanding and respect for gender have improved so many people’s lives. And it’s disappointing to see him align himself and his church with forces of oppression.
The Catholic church expressed clear support for Hitler’s Nazi party. It’s almost like shitbirds of a feather flock together to oppress minorities.
Mussolini made the Vatican a theocratic nation-state. It is baked into the cake.
The Vatican had a history of literally being a nation state long before Mussolini.
That may be true but it wasn’t in 1929 as the dictator was beginning to define the word fascism. Then Mussolini gave the vatican nationhood distinct from Italy.
Exactly… Jesus Christ.
It’s doubly sad because Christian teachings could actually be a good influence on people. Like that quote above shows, there’s good thoughts in there (alongside bullshit, of course.) When modern people, who respect science, develop a reflected and balanced faith, that can be a good thing. It’s just so damn rare, and the bigots are in charge
And he says it erases differences. If “gender ideology” is being a non-bigot about gender, then that respects differences. What erases differences is forcing everyone to conform to only two set gender stereotypes.
Yeah. I read things like this and just wonder what exactly I’m erasing by being myself? And if I do my best to try and parse his statements about how we should be acting instead of the “gender ideology” way of acting… I don’t stop being a lady. It’s not a thing I’ve "decided’ I’m going to do now that I’ll stop once you remind me that I’m called to be a human and live for good or whatever. Pretty sure I’ve been doing that the whole time, if I understand it at all.
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Also weren’t eunuchs explicitly welcomed into the early church
Focusing the Friday morning address on the “anthropological crisis and the necessary promotion of human and Christian vocations,” Pope Francis said this task is challenged by myriad social challenges arising from the cultural zeitgeist, including gender ideology.
Highlighting the anthropological angle of the conference, the pope pointed to “an elementary and fundamental truth, which today we need to rediscover in all its beauty: The life of the human being is a vocation.”
The pope emphasized that this is a foundational element “which underlies every call within the community” and “has to do with an essential characteristic of the human being as such.”
What the fuck does this even mean?
What the fuck does this mean?
“The job of humans is to adhere to traditional gender roles.”
“Women should have more babies…and probably stay home to raise them”
I suppose I’ve failed this test then :(
I’ve been waiting for him to to do something like this. It was too good to have a pope that didn’t seem evil.
Well after pope palpatine they decided to go in the other direction for a while i guess
Counter argument: Your organization raped thousands of kids repeatedly and covered it up repeatedly for decades, probably hundreds of years. Never mind all the other horrible shit the Catholic church has done, so uh, fuck off and leave trans people alone? Their lives are hard enough without your bullshit.
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You siding with the Catholic church doesn’t make you look good.
I don’t really care about appearances.
Except your stance here means you clearly do.
Lol. Really?
your attitude/personality is ugly. do better.
Unless of course it is a person having an appearance different than what they were assigned at birth.
No, they can look however they want.
Are you going to admit you’re wrong about your assumption, or just double-down?
No. I don’t play with the coy.
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Transgendered people are an abomination, but fuckin a kid? Now, well, that’s just god’s will.
