Just found this space, I’m trying to play around with this platform. Can anyone help to explain?
after lemmy i would definitely check out the products that can explore more of the fediverse, like mbin. it cant interoperate with lemmy and allows intercommunication with the ‘microblog’ side of the fediverse, which lemmy is incapable. https://moist.catsweat.com
Modlog, able to insert multiple picture/gif in comment without having to use the app, able to talk with people from another platform(like Kbin or mastodon, though limited), no ads, no tracker, animated profile picture, able to turn off downvote, no arbitrary shadowban(or no shadowban), plethora of apps to choose from without forced to use the clunky reddit official app.
It’s been a long time i didn’t touch reddit so that’s what i can remember.
it isn’t yet saturated by corporate and other agenda minded shills.
it isn’t controlled by a board of directors or single owners.
although it is vulnerable to quite a bit. info mining, misinformation campaigns, etc.
I find higher meaningful engagement and much less toxic culture here.
It takes time to cultivate your community list here, just like it took time to build my followed subreddits back when I first started with Reddit, but I get posts that I care about and am interested in in my “Subscribed” list. I’ll admit that not every one of my interests are represented, but I’m still happy here.
The engagement is far better here for sure. Almost every comment I make has some form of reply. It’s especially good when you’re the first comment. People seem to respond well to that.
I particularly like how the Threadiverse dev’s and server hosts don’t count our posts and the work of mods as their value.
No changes will ever be forced-in to appease “the boss”.
Two things that come to mind:
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Lemmy’s protocol is open, so anybody can make 3rd party apps to work with it. Third party Reddit apps used to be popular when Reddit had an open API, but Reddit destroyed that on purpose.
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Because Lemmy isn’t run by a singular company, you don’t get the same restrictions. Reddit admins had a whole host of rules on what a sub could or could not contain. Many of which were heavy focused on making Reddit more advertiser friendly.
And for point one, I use Voyager, which was heavily inspired by Apollo for Reddit, so Voyager makes this place feel more like home.
You can also use Voyager on Android! If you squint real hard, you can pretend Apollo finally released on a non-Apple device.
The funniest part of killing 3rd party apps is they cut off a widely used method if collecting more commenting data from the average user. I guess they figured audience style interaction on the official app is worth more.
The official app purportedly has a shit ton of interaction tracking. I can’t find the link anymore, but somebody on HN even claimed what they wanted to track was so invasive that he walked out of a job interview for Reddit.
What I can say for sure is that the new Reddit “shreddit” website is absolutely fucking full of tracking. I reverse engineered it for reasons, and every interaction with UI elements was reported back before the actual interaction was allowed to take place.
They definitely gain more value out of user data from interaction tracking than they do from their comments.
Tracking clicks on links with JS is pretty normal. I always implemented that with Google analytics for my e-commerce sites.
It helps you track things like downloads of files, email links, exit links, etc.
As a former web dev, I know it’s normal industry standard stuff, but it’s really hard to give Reddit the benefit of the doubt here.
Their tracking is completely ingrained in the webcomponent-based SPA itself, beyond what’s reasonable for anonymized analytics. Disabling cookies even broke loading content, despite being logged out.
What did you used to program in?
In a professional capacity, it was React with TypeScript for front-end, Node for backend with Nginx to serve static assets. At the end of the day, it wasn’t really for me. I enjoy web dev for hobby projects, but working with it day after day ruined my intrinsic desire to keep doing it.
Oooooh this is relevant to my interests!! After 20yrs doing web dev I crashed out of two jobs in 6 months completely hating coding. Can’t even bring myself to look at code nowadays.
What did you go into after quitting web dev?
What about old.reddit; would that have tracking? If not it would explain why the new Reddit UI seems so slow on browser
Interesting, for point 2, I thought having restriction in subreddit make it harder to advertise?
Oh, there were plenty of ads. You just didn’t recognize them as such.
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It’s kinda cool to go to pretty much any post and go “hey! I know almost everyone in the comment section!”, but that’s a bit of a double edged sword
Lol that sounds cool
It can be. Once you get to hyper specific niches, you’ll start seeing communities where it’s more or less only a single person posting, if anyone’s around at all. In more general communities it depends what’s going on. There’s a few people in the memes and shit posting communities who I swear make just about every post that ends up high up on top/day, and are in half the comment sections too. In communities like ask Lemmy it’s usually different people posting, but the same few people replying
Only downside is when you DO finally have an, “Oh, it’s you” moment, you’d better hope they’re not one of the few people doing the posting.
Some apps (like Boost) even let you add tags to people’s names.
I always get so confused until I remember the context
Interesting, I use boost and didn’t know about that. Like client side flairs, neat!
Damn, I want that feature in Eternity
Haha, yeah. Luckily it’s more “Oh, it’s you” and less “Oh, it’s you”. lol
Though I do tend to block trolls very quickly.
Oh, it’s you!
Oh it’s you
Oh. It is you.
Oh, it IS you.
R2D2 it is you it is you!
(insert random squeaks)
Oh. It’s you.
OH!! ‘tis ye!
I really enjoy the variety and diversity of federation. There are subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) differences each instance brings. It’s refreshing.
Reddit feels like a corporate advertising driven hellscape where fear and rage is encouraged.
Lemmy feels like 2010 when the internet world was a lot more simpler and you could actually talk to people.
That’s where we need to get back to is 2010.
Yeah Lemmy feels a lot like Reddit from 10-15 years ago. Mostly cordial conversation on a wide variety of topics, the biggest difference I see is the lack of activity in certain communities, which is a bit of a shame. But I guess that’s a trade-off.
Give it time. Better to grow organically.
Steve Huffman isn’t here, so that’s a huge plus.
Steve Huffman? Former moderator of r/jailbait and current CEO of Reddit? That guy?
Self-proclaimed future leader of an apocalyptic survival compound, and obvious Elon wannabe? That Steve Huffman?
Uj/ wait, what?
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich
steve Huffman, the thirty-three-year-old co-founder and C.E.O. of Reddit, which is valued at six hundred million dollars, was nearsighted until November, 2015, when he arranged to have laser eye surgery. He underwent the procedure not for the sake of convenience or appearance but, rather, for a reason he doesn’t usually talk much about: he hopes that it will improve his odds of surviving a disaster, whether natural or man-made. “If the world ends—and not even if the world ends, but if we have trouble—getting contacts or glasses is going to be a huge pain in the ass,” he told me recently. “Without them, I’m fucked.”
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Huffman has been a frequent attendee at Burning Man, the annual, clothing-optional festival in the Nevada desert, where artists mingle with moguls. He fell in love with one of its core principles, “radical self-reliance,” which he takes to mean “happy to help others, but not wanting to require others.” Huffman has calculated that, in the event of a disaster, he would seek out some form of community: “Being around other people is a good thing. I also have this somewhat egotistical view that I’m a pretty good leader. I will probably be in charge, or at least not a slave, when push comes to shove.”
There are some other funny bits in that article, like Spez having “large blue eyes” and once was a competitive ballroom dancer.
Nah he’s here. It’s the guy downvoting all the anti reddit posts
No, that’s me. I don’t care to see Reddit, Twitter, Threads, etc posts.
Preventing power tripping mods
I wouldn’t say it prevents them, but it does contain them to their own little fiefdoms.
I mean, posting a video just works.
As of 2023, Reddit still didn’t have fully functional video.
Way easier to block sub forums you don’t care about here!
Ooh yep absolutely this. You can block users, but also communities and even entire instances, it’s amazing.
Now I just need communities and people to block 😂
Bloody hell, there are a lot of people that like Japanese cartoons 😅
Ohh, I haven’t found many active subs, lots of quiet ones like the football (soccer) one, sadly. Cartoons though…
The accuracy of the votes (lack or vote fuzzing) and the ability to view the split of upvotes and downvotes individually, as well as who voted for what
The latter point can be seen as a kind of disadvantage though. I don’t like the fact that anyone who is an admin on any instance can go to another instance and see the identity of every voter on any post.
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You can view who votes for things? I think that’s a kbin thing, isn’t it?
No, it’s on Lemmy too
As part of the mod log? Or somewhere else
It’s just an option on every post
https://i.imgur.com/j5ZB8vi.png
On the regular Lemmy UI you can see the option if you’re an admin (on any instance, not just the one the comment was made on)
I’ve never seen that before. I wonder if it’s an instance dependent setting?
It is limited to admins
And anyone can be an admin. You can just make an instance and appoint yourself an admin. So in practice it’s not limited to anybody.
