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I use keepass with my database on onedrive.
Then i connect every device to said onedrive account, copy the private key manually on each device that i need to use.
I secure my databse with said private key + a passphrase.
Might not be the best setup, but i feel like with passphrase+key i am secure enough to have the db file in the cloud.
you could encrypt onedrive with cryptomator
Still using KeepassXC on desktop and laptop and KeePassDX on mobile.
This is exactly my setup. How did you know? LOL.
I could say I know because i’m an elite haxxor but it would be a lie. I’m not even at script kiddie level.
File synchronized with Syncthing? :)
I’ve thought about it, but for now at least I just use a USB flash drive to keep the file synchronized.
For Keepass users: KeepassXC can read your keepass file just fine, but KeepassXC can also run on Linux, whereas Keepass runs only on Windows.
Is Keepass there? Good. Upvote.
Prefer KeepassXC but let’s be honest, the best password manager is the only you actually use and keep using.
And that doesn’t get hacked!
Everything gets hacked given enough time. Just not everyone says they were hacked or realised they were.
Prefer KeepassXC
Why? Keepass has lots of plugins and XC doesn’t, right?
I like KeePassXC because it’s written in C and is thus cross platform, while KeePass is written in C# and relies on Windows UI libraries. You can run KeePass on Linux (and I did without usability issue for years) but it will look god awful.
I won’t knock plugins, everyone has weird use cases, but I don’t know what people need KeePass to do that it doesn’t already do out of the box. I’ve certainly never felt the need for any.
KeepassXC looks better IMO. Also I like that hardware keys work without plugins. Personally I still use KeePass for one feature that XC doesn’t offer.
I would only use KeepassXC
I use Bitwarden for passwords. Just works so well.
KeepassXC and KeePassium for TOTP codes. I keep the database in the cloud but sync a key with Syncthing that’s needed to unlock the database on the devices themselves.
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@bluetoque @ebits21 Because then every account is only as secure as your Bitwarden account. It become a single point of failure/vulnerability.
Yep, I think keeping TOTP codes in the same place as passwords defeats their purpose (no longer a second factor).
Less convenient but more secure.
Locally hosted bitwarden (vault warden) that is only accessible on your local network is the way to go. When a new sync is needed away from home, wireguard VPN to connect back in makes everything nice and secure. Otherwise most of the time the vault is cached to the device locally so you don’t need to phone home to access passwords.
My setup
I do it exactly like that, except that im connected via vpn most of the time, since my pihole is also located in my lan
Exactly my setup
I love Dashlane, someone tell me why it’s bad.
Dashlane’s app experience across platforms was hit and miss for me. 1Password has been much better.
Aslo more expensive than Bitwarden for example, should u want to pay for premium.
I know they recently published the code for their clients, so that’s a plus. But I can’t find any independent audits for their architecture or clients.
While all mentioned options does have independent audits done.
KeePass for me. I keep my encrypted vault in my 2 factor encrypted gdrive. Get the best of both worlds. No traditional cloud that’s a target for hackers and I have passes I can share across devices.
No love for Nextcloud Passwords or Passman? Both have plugins for Nextcloud and have Android Apps.
Yes! Been using it for a long time now! Never had any (major) issues!
Snap! 😃
No love for Nextcloud
Pretty much in general for me now. I gave it an honest go for six years but there were at least four instances where a server upgrade required nontrivial intervention to bring it back.
Syncthing + Keepass[DX] has been solid for me.
Which one was that Passman or Nextcloud? I’ve run two instance of Nextcloud Password and one of Passman, for about the same time, with no issues.
Other people do seam to have issues running Nextcloud in general, but I’ve never had anything but PHP version stuff that is easier fixed. I love Nextcloud!
No mention of Enpass? Stores more than just passwords, can be synced locally over wifi or in the cloud without using Enpass servers.
Been using Enpass for something like a decade and it’s been perfect. One time licenses can be found on stacksocial, I think.
It’s not open source and they haven’t had a security audit in a while AFAIK, I used to use it too but migrated to Proton Pass for these reasons https://discussion.enpass.io/index.php?/topic/404-security-audit/page/6/
Any reason why Keeper isn’t on the list? Is it bad?
Same. So far it’s doing the job but I wonder if there’s some reason I should switch to one of these others?
We use it at work and im pretty happy with it.
I really enjoy 1Password for easy vault sharing between family members. I was able to get my (not so technically literate) siblings and dad onto my family plan. Baby steps!
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Can someone explain what those password managers are doing better than Firefox?
(I use KeepassXC)
I use the notes section alot. I can store all kinds of related info. For example on sites that still use a username to login, I can put the email I used to sign up in the notes section.
I’ll also do security questions answers here. Using a pasphrase generator for those is good. No one is going to check if your first dog’s name really was “consoling-roving-activator-earflap” and no one can find it on your over sharing grandma’s Facebook.
I’ll also attach any license keys/relevant files for software, now those stay encrypted and backed up with the database instead of in a random folder of text files.
I need to enter passwords in lots of places that aren’t a browser.
If Firefox’s password keeper meets your needs, then I would endorse using that, for sure.
I thought I read somewhere that the build in browser password saves are not very secure.
This was maybe 5 years ago so i am guessing they have improved it?
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In addition to what the others have said, with those other password managers you dont have to do much if you decide to change browsers some day.
I guess a bunch of things, as they are specialized apps:
- proper auth. I think with Firefox you can have a password, but a password manager will have multiple options for 2fa including security keys, and on phone fingerprint unlock etc. In general, password managers are more resistant to malicious users gaining access to your device.
- store all kinds of stuff. Not everything happens in the browser, and it’s just convenient to have an app just for credentials. Many password managers allow to store and autofill credit cards too, for example.
- on the fly generation of aliases. Password managers have external integrations. For example proton and bitwarden can integrate with simplelogin.io to generate email aliases when you choose to generate a new username.
- org-like features. Password managers can be also convenient for sharing with family (for example). I do manage a bitwardes organization used by all my immediate family, which means I can share credentials easily with any of them. Besides the sharing I can also ensure my (not tech savvy mom) won’t lock herself out (emergency breakglass access configurable) and technically enforce policies on password strength etc.
- as banal as it is, self-managing. I like to run my own services and running my own password manager with my own backups gives me peace of mind.
- another perhaps obvious point. More compatibility? I can use my password manager on whatever device, whatever browser. For some, it might not change anything, but it’s a convenient feature.
As a personal addition, I would say that I simply want the cornerstone of my online security to be a product for a company that is specialized in doing that. I have no idea how much effort goes into the password manager from Mozilla, for example.
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Yep, I know and it’s very convenient. I discovered recently that bitwarden also has integration, but requires manually provisioning an API key. Not as convenient but quite nice as well.
I’m answering your comment but I’m grateful for those who have answered. You basically have more extensive needs that I have, which makes sense.
On my side:
- I’m not planning on leaving Firefox any time soon but the migration seems straightforward
- The security is sufficient for me: master password on the desktop, fingerprint on my phone
- To be noted: Firefox is my default password manager for all my android apps. Its scope extends beyond web browsing
KeepassXC, Passbolt
I like ProtonPass. It’s nice.
Same. The UI is pretty good and modern, they support TOPT and cards as well and the development is being done at a good pace.
And they are really moving quickly with development. I feel like we’re getting new features monthly
My only complaint is the lack of passkey support. I just want to store my password and passkeys in one place.