Well, if anyone wants to learn more about Git, I can recommend this: https://ohmygit.org
Another good one, entirely browser based, is https://learngitbranching.js.org
So do you guys pronounce it git or jit
The same as in giraffes giving ginormous gifts
So, it’s pronounced “jight”?
The holy war we deserve.
I pronounce it the correct way you silly git!
Don’t start this. Its not like gif. Git is clearly pronounced like git. There is no possible argument you can make otherwise.
Same could be said about gif yet here are
Is that what we’re going to do tonight, we’re gonna fight?
lol it’s on now!
jean, we pronounce it jean.
no
Yit
fortunately this one isn’t an acronym. so the pronunciation is obvious. 😊
Acronyms are still pronounced like the words they most closely resemble though
This guy jits it
But git is not an acronym
git gud
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git help
If you happen to forget the -m though, you may also need to have mastered exiting vim
What developer uses Linux in professional work? Maybe for on the side stuff but I haven’t seen any corporate Linux machines.
Macs are basically BSD, and Windows has WSL.
But Mac or WSL are not Linux.
Everyone at Mentor Graphics did before it got gobbled up by Siemens in 2017. I don’t know if they still do.
The entire IT ecosystem is built around Linux, because it’s so prevalent in servers, containers, budget hardware and the open-source community.
Yes, many companies don’t understand that and expect their devs to be productive on Windows. But in my experience, that’s an uphill battle.
In my company, we get very little IT support, if we decide to order a Linux laptop and we still have significantly less trouble with getting things set up to start coding.
Not to mention the productivity boost from having all the relevant technologies natively available + being able to script whatever you want.Hello, I use a linux machine for dev work and all the servers and containers I touch are linux, all managed through gitlab CI/CD.
git scm is my daily driver and I use it for not taking and documentation as well as active python development.
Everywhere I’ve worked, you have a Windows/Mac for emails, and then either use WSL, develop on console in Mac since it’s Linux, or most commonly have a dedicated Linux box or workstation.
I’m starting to see people using VSCode more these days though.
I thought Mac was unix which is similar but different from Linux?
I think someone else said what it actually is in another comment. It’s functionally identical 90℅ of the time for me anyway,and I use CLI and vim on it.
They’re both UNIX-like, i.e. they both implement the POSIX specification and are therefore in many ways compatible.
But yeah, modern macOS is more directly derived from the original UNIX operating system.
Linux was instead implemented from scratch to be compatible with UNIX.
Me as an Emacs user, who omits -m on purpose to practice quitting vi in case I really need it
you’re an emacs user who has vi set up as the default editor on your system?
(You can change it altering the $EDITOR env var)
I only use $EDITOR to launch vi from git. Emacs runs as a single process and is always open.
Shift-Z Shift-Z to quit vi. Let’s keep it simple, people!
The day I configured
gitto use Geany for commit messages with a separate config specifically tuned for this, it improved my life by 300%~$ cat ~/bin/gitedit #!/bin/sh exec /usr/bin/geany -i -s -t -c ~/.config/gitgeany $@Then in git config:
git config --global core.editor "gitedit"
git blame is another good one
Yes, I think we all like to blame git
Aye, most of my 10 year career in web dev is pretty much those commands. However, some advanced git concepts are worth diving into. Stuff like
git bisectthat can narrow down the exact commit that broke your app is an absolute life saver. Knowing how togit cherry-pickis also a git skill professionals should be comfortable doing. Migrating work from one branch to another without merging the entire branch is pretty common.Seeing Peter Griffin labelled as “HR”, I automatically pronounce the R as “Ah” in my head.
One of my system engineers started using TFS a few weeks ago. All he knows how to do is click Sync Changes in vscode and call me if there’s a problem.
As someone who knows that they know very little about git, this thread makes me think I’m not alone.
I think advanced git knowledge, like RegEx, is the exception, while the norm is to know the tiny handful of day to day useful bits
How is regex git knowledge? I guess you can use regular expressions with
git grepbut it’s certainly not a git-oriented concept…I don’t even know how to respond to this considering it has nothing to do with what I said…
There are at least two ways to parse your statement, and they interpreted it differently from your intention.
I guess, if you ignore the comma…
Could’ve written like this to avoid the ambiguity: “I think advanced git knowledge, just like RegEx, …”
Rereading it, I now understand what you meant. I interpreted the “like regex” as an example of advanced git knowledge. I’m not sure the comma helps make it unambiguous though.
Yeah, reading it again and I can see that interpretation…
This is why you shouldn’t rely on yourself alone for proofreading your writing, I probably could have read that a hundred times and not seen another way to read it without someone else pointing it out
what. that’s not what they said. they are comparing git knowledge to regex knowledge.
Ah, thanks for the explanation. I too misunderstood the inflection.
no worries
Gut clone
cat ~/.bash_history | grep "gut add" | wc -lI’ve typed that more times than I thought…
alias gut=gitecho alias gut=git >> ~/.bashrc
My git knowledge:
git clone <url>Once you understand that everything is similar to a tag, like branch names are basically tags that move forward with each commit, that HEAD is a tag that points to your current commit location in history, and what command moves what kind of tag, it becomes easier to understand.
Suddenly having a detached HEAD isn’t as scary as you might think. You get a better understanding of fast forward merges vs regular 3-way merge.
Also understanding that each commit is unique and will always remain in the history and can be recovered using special commands. Nothing is lost in git, unless you delete the .git sub-directory.
This I call decapitation
For folks unaware, the technical git term, here, is a ‘ref’. Everything that points to a commit is a ref, whether it’s HEAD, the tip of a branch, or a tag. If the git manpage mentions a ‘ref’ that’s what it’s talking about.
Right. I just wanted to keep it as simple as possible.
Honestly I’ve come to realise that being precise is the simplest in the long run
People get overloaded with words. You have to focus on one concept at a time. Let them ask for others.
Oh, no worries, just figured I’d add that extra little bit of detail as it’s a useful hook into a lot of other git concepts.
Orphaned commits can get garbage collected at some point, though.
Oh fuck. I didn’t think of that. Than you for reminding me.
Edit: Ah but you can only run this in your local repo. If you happen to push anything, you might not be able to run it on the remote. Many DevOps platforms won’t allow it.
Oh yeah, and anybody else who had fetched in those commits may still have them as well. It’s hard for something to be gone-gone, but it may be annoyingly-hard-to-recover-gone.
The thing is that for a majority of cases, this is all one needs to know about git for their job. Knowing git add, git -m commit “Change text”, git push, git branch, git checkout , is most of what a lone programmer does on their code.
Where it gets complicated real fast is collaboration on the same branch. Merge conflicts, outdated pulls, “clever shortcuts,” hacks done by programmers who “kindof” know git at an advanced level, those who don’t understand “least surprise,” and those who cut and paste fixes from Stackexchange or ChatGPT. Plus who has admin access to “undo your changes” so all that work you did and pushed is erased and there’s no record of it anymore. And egos of programmers who refuse any changes you make for weird esoteric reasons. I had a programmer lead who rejected any and all code with comments “because I like clean code. If it’s not in the git log, it’s not a comment.” And his git comments were frustratingly vague and brief. “Fixed issue with ssl python libs,” or “Minor bugfixes.”
“Fixed issue with ssl python libs,” or “Minor bugfixes.”
In other news, never work more than one person on a branch (that’s why we have them). Make a new related issue with its own branch and rebase whenever necessary, and don’t even think about touching main or dev with anything but a properly reviewed and approved PR (in case they aren’t already protected), or I’ll find and report you to the same authority that handles all the failed sudo requests!
Also, companies that disable rebasing are my bane. While you can absolutely do without, i much prefer to have less conflicts, cleaner branches and commits, easier method to pull in new changes from dev, overall better times for the reviewer, and the list goes on. Though, the intern rewriting multiple branches’ history which they have no business pushing to is also rather annoying.
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To be honest, this is a simple rejection that really doesn’t waste anyone’s time except the perpetrator
If it’s not in the git log, it’s not a comment.”
This is so incredibly dumb, though I’m sure I don’t have to tell you this. That comment will be buried in the git log if anyone ever fixes a typo on that line.
Why does
git rebase
work sometimes?
Yeah git can get quite complicated when there ate lots of people working on the same things.
It’s not git that’s complicated. The work is complicated. git is just one of the tools that programmers use to manage the complexity.
I also think that some people get too hung up on having a “clean” history, and trying to “fix” the history after it has already occurred. I usually have enough problems to worry about in the present, without also trying to worry about the past.
I find the “clean history” argument so flawed.
Sure, if you’re they type to micro commit, you can squash your branch and clean it up before merging. We don’t need a dozen “fixed tests” commits for context.
But in practice, I have seen multiple teams with the policy of squash merging every branch with 0 exceptions. Even going so far as squash merging development branches to master, which then lumps 20 different changes into a single commit. Sure, you can always be a git archeologist, check out specific revisions, see the original commits, and dig down the history over and over, to get the original context of the specific change you’re looking into. But that’s way fucking more overhead than just looking at an unmanipulated history and seeing the parallel work going on, and get a clue on context at a glance at the network graph.
Using curated commits to optimize for pull request reviewability is highly underrated. Liberal use of interactive rebasing to ‘tell a story’, essentially.
you’re they type to micro commit
Thanks for a much shorter and better way to explain this tendency of mine and why I rebase a lot, yoinking this phrase.
I like to rebase on my feature branches before the PR because it’s a gift to my future self that resolves all the conflicts (if any) before my work goes in. I just find trying to figure out how those conflicts got resolved when there are a bunch of merges in more difficult if there’s a problem later. It’s easier to understand for me. YMMV, this does not work for everyone. Etc etc.
Your lead sounds like someone who thinks you’re charged per line of code you commit.
I had a programmer lead who rejected any and all code with comments “because I like clean code. If it’s not in the git log, it’s not a comment.”
Pretty sure I would quit on the spot. Clearly doesn’t understand “clean” code, nor how people are going to interface with code, or git for that matter. Even if you write a book for each commit, that would be so hard to track down relevant info.
Yeah, I think that guy only got a superficial understanding of what Uncle Bob was saying.
My policy as a tech lead is this: In an ideal world, you don’t need the comment because the names and the flow are good. But when you do need the comments, you usually really need those comments. Anything that’s surprising, unusual, or possibly difficult to understand gets comments. Because sometimes the world is not ideal, and we don’t have the time or energy to fully express our ideas clearly in code.
My policy on SCM logs is that they should be geared more towards why this commit is going in, not what is being done. And what other tickets, stories, bugs it relates to.
We solve that problem using naming conventions. Branch names must start with the issue key (we use Jira). You don’t do anything in that branch that’s not part of that issue. If you do, you must prefix the commit message with the issue key that it goes with. The commit itself identifies what changed. The Jira issue provides all the backstory and links to any supporting materials (design docs, support tickets, etc). I have to do a lot of git archeology in my role, and this scheme regularly allows me to figure out why a code change was made years ago without ever talking to anyone.
To be honest, when I ask a candidate about git, I’m looking for them to describe this workflow.
Heck, I have a new person who I tasked with minor config change, just to make sure she knows how to use git in a professional environment
Lead of a small team of scripters here. The “Why. Not What” is defo a good way of encouraging cleaner code.
Had to request changes recently on a PR like this, big function with comments telling me what it was doing. When they resubmitted for review they had broken it down into smaller functions with good variable/function naming. following what was going on was much easier
Same strategy here, but recently found myself commenting on the “what”. There was a perfect built-in, but not really readable and I couldn’t figure out how to make it readable, so fine
But when you do need the comments, you usually really need those comments.
It’s nice to see you sharing my experience. My code is either uncommented or very severely commented with comment-to-code ratios of 10:1 or more. I hate the files that are soo green… :(
How about
git commit-tree [Hash] -p branch1 -p branch2 … -m "Dummy Message"
