• Inductor
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    Artemis Fowl (Book 1) (he’s the good guy in the following books)

  • @[email protected]
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    The Sixth Day, one of Arnold Schwarzenegger’s please-take-me-seriously projects, is possibly the wrongest it is possible to be about whether clones are people. Still a fun movie. Just ass-backwards in its motivation. I’m not sure how much of its moral grey area was intended by the script or the direction. The anti-clone “good guys” are pretty terrorist-coded. Arnie’s just caught up in the middle of their guerrilla fight against a generic corporate bad guy. Who solved death. How terrible.

    Off-topic Schwarzenegger faff: End Of Days is dumb. Jingle All The Way is the most 90s Christmas movie possible. Eraser is a slick action movie that somehow has no cultural cachet outside of every video game with a railgun.

    • QuestioningEspecialy
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      the method was the problem as far as i’m concerned
      not that i saw enough episodes pre-timeskip to have a strong opinion, though

  • keet
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    I kinda think this about the Separatists in Star Wars…Dooku aside…

    • JowlesMcGee
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      I’ll never stop complaining that in the second movie Dooku tells Obi-Wan that the Separatists are the good guys and that there’s a sith influencing the Senate. Which would have been a cool reveal for the audience, that we’re rooting for the bad guys.

      But then Dooku is also a sith anyway. What a wasted opportunity.

      • QuestioningEspecialy
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        11 year ago

        something something “From my perspective the Jedi are evil.”
        something something “You were supposed to bring balance to the force, not destroy it.”

    • @[email protected]
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      91 year ago

      Proponent of knowledge and education. Isn’t big on forced worship. Doesn’t murder you for not paying enough attention. Guess it’s all just a trick to capture your eternal soul.

    • OADINC
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      91 year ago

      Alright, I’m intrigued. Could you explain why?

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        131 year ago

        I mean it’s a bit spoiler-y to do so, but this also came to my mind.

        Zuko is the villain in the beginning. By the end, he has completed a redemption arc and is a good guy.

        One could argue that he was always a good guy and was just clouded by his father’s ambition and the loss of his mother.

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          That’s basically what I meant, he was the main villain in the beginning, after all. Didn’t think about that this would kinda spoil it tho.

          • @[email protected]
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            11 year ago

            Yep, I agree with what you meant and it was the first thing that came to my mind when looking to answer the OP.

            As for spoilery, i was just kinda warning about it. The phone client I use doesnt have a spoiler tag, not sure if the web client does.

  • The French version of La Femme Nikita, although it’s more of a redemption arc than “villain turning out to be a good guy.” She starts out as a junkie petty crook who murders a cop in cold blood, spends most of the film assassinating people for the government, and in the end seems to have gotten her life together.

    But she starts out as a very not-nice person.

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      It’s important to remember that the Quarians are living in the shadow of a war and exodus they didn’t personally start and have had generations telling them a story of survival and heroism against an unstoppable machine juggernaut. That’s what makes their decision to cooperate all the more powerful. They’ve spent their whole lives trying to plant a tree whose shade they’ll never sit in that they always feel is at risk of being cut down again.

      It’s also understandable when a significant portion of the geth just tried to kill everybody a few years prior and was abducting humans to impale on spikes that turn them into machines-monsters.

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    Gru in Despicable Me.

    Zangief in Wreck-it Ralph: “You are bad guy but this does not mean you are bad guy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯”

    • QuestioningEspecialy
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      11 year ago

      still ain’t finished it after all these years 'cause of how hard some levels are (and i don’t wanna use a video every damn time)

      • BolexForSoup
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        If it’s the purple/shadow puzzle world just look them up. Those get wonky and the game has so few it’s not like you’ll be watching a hundred YouTube videos