It’s working fine for me. I like the improved icons and slightly adjusted layout, and the auto-hide panel feature is great.
Issues with my setup: window title applet isn’t yet updated to support KDE 6. I know there’s a version on the AUR that should work, but I’m waiting to see if it hits the Arch extras repo soon. My Papirus icons don’t seem to be applying, so all my folders are Green but Dolphin’s icon itself is blue. I also did get a weird temporary black box when moving a window out of the way from an auto hide panel, and the auto hide causes a stutter when it comes back into view.
1050 Ti laptop running X11 (optimus-manager) through HDMI with lid closed
I’m absolutely new to Linux (thanks to steam deck, which I think is arch Linux), what is KDE 6? Is that like a new OS update? Are there any implications for steam deck users?
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Thank you for making such a thoughtful response! Out of curiosity, does this mean KDE actually runs on other distros of Linux as well? Until now, I had been under the impression that KDE was just arch Linux itself. Would you happen to know a good way for me to learn more about Linux, and how to put it to good use from a beginner’s perspective?
Until now, I had been under the impression that KDE was just arch Linux itself.
Like others have already noted, KDE Plasma[1] is widely available and thus not only limited to Arch Linux. Heck, the same applies to 99% of the available software on Linux; universal package managers[2] have been vital to this.
Would you happen to know a good way for me to learn more about Linux, and how to put it to good use from a beginner’s perspective?
As you already own a Steam Deck, I assume you want to look into how you may improve your mileage out of it. Others have already noted how you may do so for more traditional systems. But the way Linux is utilized on the Steam Deck is rather unique. It utilizes immutability[3] (i.e. the inability to make certain (permanent) changes) which makes it rather harsh to change certain parts of the system; SteamOS’ implementation might even require you to redo some of these changes every so often… which is probably not what you were expecting. To circumvent this, perhaps it’s worth exploring other SteamOS-like distributions that are more friendly towards tinkerers. There are many to choose from; perhaps this breakdown may help you with making an informed decision (even if it’s found on a page dedicated to the Legion Go).
- That is, the desktop environment (i.e. the piece of software responsible for how you visually interact with your system) that team KDE works on. They’re also responsible for many other projects; like Kate, Kdenlive and Krita etc (these are often easily recognized by their names that start with a “K”).
- We may refer to package managers as the original App/Play Stores; a piece of software used to find, install and upgrade software. For a long time, every major distribution (like Arch, Debian and Fedora) had its own repository (i.e. set of installable software through the package manager). This meant that, it was very conceivable that software may be packaged (i.e. distributed and maintained through the repository) on some distros (abbreviation for distributions) but not on others. In the last couple of years, so-called universal package managers (like AppImage, Distrobox (technically this doesn’t belong here, but it does allow access to packages found on (other) distros), Flatpak, Guix, Nix and Snap) have become alternative package managers that are distro-agnostic. And have slowly, but surely, ridden Linux distros from concerns related to package availability.
- There’s a lot to say about immutability. But for now, it’s most important to note that not all systems that are (sometimes falsely) referred to as immutable are created equally. For example, the respective implementations for Bazzite, Jovian NixOS and SteamOS differ immensely from one another. Arguably, referring to Bazzite and Jovian NixOS as immutable with ‘unchanging’ being what’s implied, would be a major disservice to both projects.
to answer your question KDE is not arch. Linux has a bunch of distros, you can think of one as a collection of packages. some distros want to do things one way some want to do it others.
the biggest difference between distros for most users are mostly desktop environments and package managers. KDE is the desktop enrollment, there are many others that you could also use, like gnome, or use none at all and only use the terminal. the package manager is how you get new packages and update the ones you already have. examples are apt and pacman.
you can make any distro work like another by installing the same packages, although this may not always be the easiest to do. an easy way to change your experience with Linux is to try a different desktop environment, you can run multiple on the same distro and switch between them, see what you like.
Almost every major linux distribution either has a KDE edition or can install KDE.
If you like youtube, the linux cast is a great option. For news though, the linux experiment can’t be beat. You’ll learn more as you go along and always know you can ask questions if you have them
Thanks! I just watched a video the Linux cast posted about KDE, and found a KDE 6 video posted by the Linux experiment. I’ll watch that one later. There’s still a lot of terminology that is lost on me, but I’m sure I’ll pick it up in time.
The new terminology will be never ending. The unix philosophy is to make small tools that do one thing really well (vs a single large monolithic OS that does a ton of things half decently), so every single component in and around Linux has a name, its own set of maintainers, and pages of documentation you could spend hours to months learning (depending on the tool).
On top of that, the open source ecosystem isn’t centralized, there’s no CEO telling everyone the one way to do things. Instead, everyone is free to build whatever they want according to whatever design patterns they choose. This is a blessing and a curse. There are packages that work nicely with other packages, and there are many you probably shouldn’t waste your time with.
All this is to say, I recommend always having a goal in mind when digging into Linux, and get good at skimming new terminology that you think is relevant to your goal. Be able to quickly understand what something does and how it’s used, but avoid going down the rabbit hole for every little thing.
That’s not to say you shouldn’t satisfy your curiosity, just know that you can be overwhelmed quickly if you don’t know how to tune out the noise. Being goal oriented helps me stay on task as I learn.
Good luck!
If you’re interested in KDE in particular, you should also check out Nicco Loves Linux. He’s one of the KDE developers and makes a lot of videos about it.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Yes. I’m running Ubuntu and I have recently changed the desktop environment from Gnome to KDE.
I do the same with Pop! OS. Does anyone know when KDE 6 will roll out there?
Followup on the other person’s response - I don’t actually know of any modern desktop distro that doesn’t support KDE. That’s not because distros go out of their way to package KDE, but simply because at the end of the day, KDE is simply a fullscreen app (with a heck of a lot of functionality), and if you can compile code, you can compile and run KDE.
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broke latte-dock
edit: and my window blurring/transparency no longer works
Is latte dock still maintained?
Hopefully it gets fixed since I know a lot of people like it, but it might be permabroke
No, it’s been unmaintained for a while and probably won’t be ported to Plasma 6 unless a new maintainer steps up.
you need Plasma 6.0.1 and the latest git version of Klassy for blur.
My body is ready
Other than messing with my scaling and two incompatible applets it just runs absolutely fine. Glad I waited for a week - was thinking about installing it from testing.
Yeah I had a similar experience, it forgot my wifi login for some reason and there were a couple of minor theme/widget glitches, which was fully expected because my system is pretty customized, but other than that it was completely smooth. Maybe half an hour or so of tinkering from updating to being back to normal.
Still waiting on tumbleweed :(
THANKS OP, I WAS JUST WAITING FOR THAT MOMENT
WHY ARE WE SHOUTING!?!
KDE 6 ON ARCH HAS BEEN CANCELLED
SHUT UP GOOGLE
(dunno why I am in a day-old thread)
Didn’t realize this was happening and yay -Syu went brrr and it broke my shit. Probably doesn’t help that I’m running nvidia with linux (endeavouros). Wayland doesn’t work at all (black screen on login with only mouse ptr, wrong resolution), while Xorg is now much less smooth e.g. on the switching desktop animations. Moving windows around and in-window graphics are fine. Some graphical config stuff changed too; I’m still taking inventory.
I’m also currently playing with nvidia vs nvidia-dkms with different kernels to see if that solves anything.
EDIT: Looks like that my configuration was failing to set
nvidia_drm modeset=1
correctly due to my unfamiliarity with dracut. Manually addingnvidia_drm.modeset=1
to my kernel cmdline makes Wayland work (and quite well at that), though Xorg is still laggy.On rolling release distros you should always read (or at least skim) over what’s being updated and if it may impact you.
Oh absolutely, I don’t blame KDE or arch repos lol. I did see that it was a KDE update but somehow didn’t clock the version number. I had it in my head that KDE6 was much farther off.
Sorry to hear that. Also on EOS and it is working great.
Same here on Lenovo Ideapad(I think) and EOS. No problems at all.
I know my opinion will not be popular there but that’s what I love about Manjaro: they won’t rush the upgrade. I can wait for a couple of months, no worries.
Arch Linux waited for 6.0.1. Besides, you don’t have to upgrade if you don’t want.
(I did like Manjaro’s community though. They cool)
Can you freeze kde version while keeping the rest up-to-date? (Genuine question, I assumed that wasn’t possible)
Technically yes, but you’ll probably break your system because it’s a lot of work to keep track of which packages depend on what manually.
The best way to do this would use some sort of immutable distro with a frozen KDE version instead
Same here! Been using manjaro for more than 5 years by now on all my dev machines and I really like not being overrun by updates.
Once you form the habit of checking latest “stable update” forum thread (the eqivalent of checking the arch frontpage before an upgrade) and check for potential “manual interventions” (if any), then it gives you suprisingly good stability. But it’s still rolling release and “pretty current”.
And stability simply becomes more of a factor once your metaphorical “plate” becomes choke full and the last thing you want from your underlying OS is to act up on its own due to an update.
KDE 6 on Arch has been canceled
Go away Google
Pulseaudio-qt?
Well, wasnt it already there like a week ago? Or was that only because I’m on testing repos?
Only testing. The default repos got it just now
I also switched to Wayland for a surprise challenge. And for the extra spice, I also have a Kwin script called Polonium, which supports Plasma 6 only in the current dev version directly from git. Some widgets do not work, but all in all, it’s relatively stable so far and I will get through it.
Good luck everybody.
I’m excited to give it an honest try as soon as it implements libei
i upgraded last night! and when i booted up this morning, i was unable to log into any accounts in the login screen lol. if anyone else has a similar issue where the only option login screen gives you is wayland and that doesnt work for you or you want to use x11, what fixed it for me was installing
plasma-meta
as for whatever reason that wasn’t on my system at the time. this allowed me to select x11 again from the login screen and my system is working as normal.i know we’re still in early days of plasma 6, but does anyone know any good calendar/weather/time widgets that i can replace this one with? https://store.kde.org/p/998901/ haven’t found another good calendar widget yet.
there’s this updated version with a Plasma 6 branch https://github.com/ALikesToCode/plasma-applet-eventcalendar/tree/plasma-6
might work
just gave it a go, unfortunately it errored out and i dont have time to troubleshoot atm
appreciate the suggestion though!
Kvantum blur is broken :(