I’m getting “wallet” vibes which should absolutely not be where one keeps important documents. I had mine in a shoe box under my bed as a teen and it survived unscathed.
Heck, I have a 15 year old free pizza stamp card from a shop that permanently closed in better condition. Haha!
Edit: someone came through and downvoted every comment for the heck of it? Haha! Youuu get an updoot, and yooou get an updoot… etc.
Hopefully you’ll get to cash in that stamp card one day! Give it another 15 years.
“This single plain-text string of characters defines your entire identity in the eyes of the government, creditors, health care, everything. Good luck keep it safe!”
Please don’t give your SSN to health care institutions, they don’t need it. They like to ask for it on their intake forms so that they can find you more easily if they need to send your debt to collections, but most will accept a blank entry anyways.
I’ve had mine laminated for almost fifty years.
Your SS card doesn’t look a day over 40. <3
Your SS card
So they moved away from tattoos huh
Aww
Oh you
Get married and change your last name! You’ll get a brand new one. Works for men too, trust me!
You don’t even have to get married just file name change paperwork
Or, you can just order a new one without changing your name.
Or you could get a social security card with the name Turd Ferguson on it. I mean, if you’re already going through the trouble of doing paperwork, what’s a little more?
Somebody laminated my birth certificate. But what are they going to do about it, unborn me? Wait… will they?
Edit: What if somebody laminates my death certificate? 😭
Late but I think it’ll depend where you are and what security features birth certificates where you are have. Where I am, the paper has a unique feel to it and also has one of those little hologram type sticker things on the back. So I imagine laminating it would cause issues in official circumstances where they want to feel the paper. Also not sure if it’d affect the sticker things or not, but the heat from the laminator could cause damage if done wrong
But if the BDM department where you are is lazy and literally just print your info onto an official looking piece of paper, I’d argue the point. I don’t see what laminating it would do in that situation, although when it comes to government departments, they don’t tend to be very flexible. If you were just showing it to verify your identity or working rights for a job or something I doubt anybody would refuse it in either situation
They could make you go get another one when you try to use it, which is a pain in the ass.
How often are you even using your death certificate? I mean, yeah, the discount at Disneyworld is a sweet deal, but otherwise?
That’s how zombies are created.
We’ve really gotta regulate these laminators.
Never going to happen. The lamination lobby has deep pockets.
What is
deadlaminated may never die.“Comimg soon: RE-LAMINATOR!”
deleted by creator
Yep. There’s no reason to carry this around with you on the daily. Stick it in a file in a safe file box of some sort. I can’t remember the last time someone asked for a physical SS card…maybe when we applied for my kids’ passports? No idea.
Maybe OP applies for a lot of jobs and is brown enough to be told they need to actually see it? Iunno
I’ve heard blur is not destructive. Please use a paintbrush on 100% opacity if you do this
When I post pictures with blurred information, I replace the info with something trollish and then blur it. Nobody appreciated that so far. :(
Depends on the kind of blur. Some kinds can indeed be almost perfectly removed if you know the used blurring function, others are destructive. But, yes, don’t take that chance. Always delete/paint over sensitive information.
Source: we had to do just that in a course I took a long time ago.
Always paint over sensitive information.
Not in PDF tho. There, the stroke is saved in metadata…
wouldn’t you also need to know in what kind of pattern the blur was applied. I am sure if you do it multiple times starting from multiple non identical partitioning of the region, it will be impossible.
You’re severely underestimating the power of weaponized autism.
I prefer sampling the surroundings, typing out a different number or text over it, then blurring with a non destructive effect.
Name: Phil McCracken
SSN: EAT-MY-NUTS
Just for anyone who tries
Signature: …
Ah man, I remember when they caught some pedo creep who used a non-destructive blur on the CSAM materials he produced that included his face. So satisfying.
He only spiral blurred his face… So they just did it in the opposite direction. It was beyond stupid
I’ve switched to a mosaic blur. Looks neat and always destructive.
Actually not always, there is a script that can recover text from mosaic’d screenshots if the font and pixellation technique is known. I just use a fake mosaic – the easiest way is to paste a bitmap of non-confidential text from elsewhere in the screenshot and then apply the filter.
Thanks for that.
I’m glad I use really huge pixels though. Would be hard to crack these:
don’t you americans have plastic version’s also, or did i get it wrong?
The idea is that if it gets lost outside somewhere, then the paper will degrade to the point that it’s no longer readable. You can always get another card if you lose yours.
Hmm, that actually makes a great point. I thought America was just cheap.
Shitty for us dungeon dwellers. We don’t go outside but coffee stains are a real threat.
For the vast majority of people who keep their cards safely stowed away in a drawer, this will likely never be an issue.
For someone who doesn’t have a safe place to keep one (for instance, homeless), this can get to being an issue pretty quickly.
That said, there are hardship exceptions to this rule.
RM 10205.425 Exception to SSN Card Limits Due to Hardship
When a number holder (NH) reaches his or her yearly or lifetime SSN card limits, an SSN replacement card may still be issued if failure to receive an SSN card will cause a hardship.
To receive an exception due to hardship, the NH must present a letter from a third-party provider, such as a State public assistance agency or an employer, indicating that the NH must present his or her SSN card to receive employment or a benefit.
So you’re not completely fucked, it’s just some extra leg work.
In what way is not replacing an SSN a non-hardship?
It’s required for so much shit.
It is, but you don’t need the physical card for very much. I’ve only ever needed the card for jobs. I’ve never had to apply for welfare, but I do belive you need a physical card to apply. But in most situations, you just need the number.
So what happens when you get 10?
I guess I’ll just Die?
I read somewhere they send a denial letter. Not sure what implications that has.
Nope, no plastic… Just a cardboard print it.
like, you can get a new one though to be fair, I just got a brand new one, granted it was after legally changing my name but I’m certain you can just have one reprinted without a name change, I don’t even think it costs anything.
I also don’t understand carrying it around, my partner does, but I just have my number memorized, and the card itself is kept safe, for the few times in my life I will need the actual physical card.
I work at a DMV. I have seen 10 yr old cards shredded to shit and 80 year cards in near mint condition. If great grandpappy can do it, yall can too.
man, not everyone has an easy life 😔
back in high school I stuck mine in a hard plastic card case. Wherever it is now that I lost it, should at least be in good shape almost 30 years later.
I can confirm that it is indeed in great shape!
Fun fact, there is a lifetime limit for the number of replacements you can get for these (I forget but I think it’s like 12), if you lose too many no more social security card for you
True story if you run out of attempts they give you a poncho and deport you to Australia
Shit.
It’s not impossible, just harder. They’re going to need documentation for it.
But SSN is the root of all identity documentation, except birth certificate I guess
Well it’s more like proving you need it issued again. Although they are going to ask for supporting ID documents too.
I got mine in 1986 and it pretty much looks like the picture.
Fun side note: back then, you didn’t get a social security number until you were old enough to get a job. I was fourteen when I got my social security number.
My wife found out you can get one earlier as long as your parents sign off on it. They then used her social security to scam some loans while she’s a child, which fucked her up later when she moves out on her own and tried to get an apartment.
This is extremely common, and one of the reasons that using SSN for credit reports is a horrible practice. The only way for someone to dispute the debts is to report their parents to the authorities, which is a horrible position to be in when you’re freshly 18. The real solution would be a simple age check, to verify if the person applying for the loan is actually 18. But that
is apparently too difficultwould prevent banks from saddling literal children with mountains of debt.
LOL, no. I was born in '71 and my parents got me one immediately. I remember them showing me as a child and thinking, “Why do I care about this?”
Yeah, I was born in 80 and have had it since birth.
Same.
Good for you and your parents, but it wasn’t common until 1986 when Reagan’s new tax code suddenly required social security numbers for dependents. It was 1987 when they started rolling it out as part of the birth at the hospital.
Your lol no tone implies I don’t remember my own teen years.
You said we didn’t get ss numbers until we got jobs and we said no.
I mean, for sure you could. In my country would didn’t get an ID card/number until you needed to get a job or travel by plane. I got mine when I was 12. But nowadays babies always get their I’d card after birth.
I never knew you couldn’t laminate them? Why would they do something like that?
I understand social security to mean paying into a state pension, a national healthcare service, and provision of education.
What does social security mean in the American context?
In the US Social Security is retirement income. SS tax comes out of every paycheck then when you retire you will get monthly income. So state pension but none of the other good stuff.
It pays the state pension which is good for a tiny fraction of retirement.
Depends what your spending is like. Someone who earns like 30K/year should get about 65% of their earning if they retire at 65. You’d have to save like another $1500/year (including company matches) to make up the difference.
If I kept working til I was like 70 and my pay only keeps up with inflation, I’d get about 130% of my spending via social security.
Thanks all for your replies!
It was originally just a number to track contributions to quasi-pension system. However, because it was the only number universally assigned to people, it stated getting used way more often, most notably for credit issuers and reporting agencies.
Depends on who you ask. For millennials and younger, it means paying lots of money into a service that will be dissolved before we get to tap into it.
It’s also a number that’s supposed to be kept secure or something, but applying for pretty much anything requires you to provide it.
Yeah, it became a sort of federal identification since the US government didn’t want to make a federal ID and now we are stuck with a much more inferior system than if they just did anything. Since everyone got a SS card it became the de facto ID.
Irrelevant to the topic at hand. This is a social security card, which displays your social security number, which is the closest thing we have to a national ID. It is used for all things financial and for identity verification & background checks. If someone gets your name, address, and social security number, you can be in for a real bad time.
Which is unfortunately easy to do. There are some of those search sites that include SSNs on them. Haven’t seen one that detailed in a few years, but still. Just today I found a site that had addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, and relatives. All accurate and all freely available, no registration required.
To add to the problem, social security was never meant to be an national ID number. It was just really useful for a whole lot of things. However, numbers are handed out sequentially, not randomly. So take your SIN and add or subtract one from it and that is another person’s SIN. Knowing just a few simple things about a person can reveal most if not their entire SIN.
deleted by creator
Especially when Equifax leaked nearly half of all Americans’ names, social security numbers, addresses, birthdays, and driver license number in 2017. That info is just out there and we can never remove it.
At least they were punishe… Hahahaha as if.
When I was a food service manager I inexplicably had access to the social security numbers of everyone who had ever applied to work there. Thousands.
Oh no
SSA will give you a free replacement card. I think TRUMP wanted to charge money for it, but not sure if that plan went through.
Why is Trump in all capitals?
That’s how the man himself writes his name.
Are you assuming his capitalisation?
I assume a lot of things about that guy.
Was Trump a SovCit this whole time? Does he think TRUMP the corporate entity created by his birth certificate was elected President in 2016 rather than he the living person, and thus he can’t be prosecuted for crimes that the corporate entity created in his name allegedly committed?
This might actually work 🤔
Only up to 10 in your lifetime though:
There are a few (difficult, but possible) ways to get extra copies despite the limit though, like changing your name
But weirdly only if it was issued after 2005?
There was an antiterrorism law that was passed in 2004 (as a result of 9/11), that went into effect in 2005 that set this limit.