There’s a lot of people on .ml, Hexbear and Lemmygrad that are probably celebrating right now.
You know we are real communists because we can live rent free in your minds
I know you’re wannabe-communists because it’s clear that based on your naivety and ignorance, none of you are out of high school yet.
No adult with half a brain would buy into that nonsense.
The irony of an American trying to educate someone else on their ignorance, while simultaneously expressing their deepest ignorance themselves.
The irony of someone making blanket statements about an entire country of people while simultaneously posturing as someone that should be above such behavior.
However, if you’re a communist- American or not- I’m smarter than you. Period. End of story.
Lmao thanks. I had not met my government mandated amount of chuckles yet!
If you get your way, you just might have to some day. It’s with hope that you’ll grow up long before then though so you can stand against it with the rest of us.
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I don’t understand the link between communism and celebrating an imperialist dictator’s sham election.
because it doesnt exist, nobody on the left likes putin, the “tankie who loves putin” is just a guy that the reddit brained lemmy.worlders made up to be angry at.
You are forgetting the actual Russian trolls who infest leftist spaces, and who get protection because they make good campists noises. You are simply lying if you claim there aren’t people all over hexbear, .ml and lemmygrad who openly root for Russia against Ukraine.
I have literally caught bans just for saying that Ukraine resembles genocide. You know, because communism is when mass deportation of children, or something.
That’s a disingenuous take to be sure. And to be fair there are a lot of those surrounding capitalism and Leninism both.
I literally had a lemmy.ml user yesterday try to justify Putin’s invasion of Crimea. Claiming that Putin (a fascist) was concerned about the fascist Azov brigade because they were fascist. (Hilarious Russian propaganda) And that this was all because of America and things only got bad because of America. If America had never been involved, Ukraine would have happily joined back with Russia, etc etc etc.
So it definitely does exist. Whether or not it makes up a significant amount. We can debate that. Or at least we can try. Because unfortunately more often than not. So many on ml domains are incapable of having a good faith discussion. Often responding with walls of text, macro images and other things completely unrelated to the discussion at hand. In an effort to deflect criticism, muddy the conversation and gish gallop the whole talk. They don’t have a Monopoly on it though to be sure. It’s something other authoritarians like fascists do as well.
Saying that Putin was justified (its debatable) is not the same as saying they like him. the vast majority see him as a necessary evil (some as a lesser evil) to counter the western imperialist hegemony.
You say ml people are incapable of good faith discussions but here you go immediately shutting down arguments going against your worldview as “hilarious propaganda” and those macro images only come out in response to such bad faith takes.
No, it is not debatable. He literally invaded. If he was justified in invading Crimea then the west and the United States in particular has basically been kinda justified in every action they’ve taken against every ml country/revolution ever. Either it’s bullshit for both or it’s okay for both.
And yeah it was literal propaganda. Much like the red scare BS perpetuated in the US since the late 40s. It’s not BS propaganda because it disagreed with my world views. You only prove my point by making that accusation. You have no idea what my world views are. You’re simply getting emotional and defensive because yours are fairly obvious and I impuned them. But if you want to know know I’m pragmatically libertarian Marxist/ anarcho communist. So even though I agree with ml on a number of economic issues, I generally find them as distasteful as fascist because of their social policy.
my guy have you been to hexbear or lemmygrad? every other post on those forums are just people whining about westerners treating china and russia like they’re totalitarian/dictatorships and genocidal (because they are) and then saying that the US is even worse with less freedom of speech and more authoritarian. and obviously the constant uyghur genocide denial saying they’re just being “(re)educated” and they’re “integrating” with the mainland communities/culture more, then deflecting and rationalizing that even if it is genocide then it’s good because US wage slavery & prison labour is bad.
plus calling ukraine nazis and in general being anti-ukraine, saying that ukrainians want to be part of russia and that ukraine was better off as part of the soviet empire, claiming that putin was justified in invading “because NATO” even though there was no way in hell of ukraine joining NATO (they don’t accept unstable countries or countries with foreign non-NATO military/rebel presence) and even after NATO started backing away from ukraine in order to please russia (tankie claims which are silly and a sick joke)…
it’s not nearly as bad on lemmy.ml, it’s mostly limited to the minority here, but the other two are definitely filled to the brim with imperialists/red nazis in denial…
Just to establish some ethos in your mind here: I am banned from Lemmygrad for “trying to lib up the grad” after discussions about Russia. Even so, I would say it is both disingenuous and wrong to claim that they are all drooling over Putin. Most of them, at least those worth listening to, are critically supportive of Russia due to them being in opposition to Western hegemony. That said, many of them are also unfortunately very much under the impression that all Ukrainians are nazis, which is obviously not true.
To properly evaluate them for what they are, and not as an infantile “they are genocide loving, totalitarian, red-fash tankies”, one needs to understand how dystopical their view on the current world order is. If anything, this should be the take away from their dissonant voices, because their dystopic view of the Western world unfortunately bears a lot of merit (which does not equivocate to many of the alternatives being much better).
It’s called campism. It’s basically people who are obsessed with relitigating the Cold War more than actually discussing leftist politics. They believe that communism never took off because the west kept communism down, so now anything which stands opposed to the west is ostensibly helping some future communist movement.
Really it’s mostly just about the fan service though. Being edgy is easier than actually studying politics with the bonus that you can just blindly cast judgement on anything since you’ll never actually have to put your ideas into practice and be judged by theor outcomes.
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everyone who voted for him or his party is going to start voting for communists and thus Soviet Union will be soon restored.
- 15%(probably less) is huge amount of people, but I don’t see them making big difference.
- If they wanted to vote for communists, they would vote already. But they didn’t and probably will not.
What communities are you seeing this shit in?
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Fucking hilarious! I mean, I was naïve when I was in high school, but not like that. That’s next-level batshit.
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It’s like The_Donald for the far left. Unreal.
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No, that is unacceptable discourse! You may disagree strongly with them, but by dehumanizing them with such statements you prove yourself no better than them. They are not animals or things, they are people with very different views, with emphasis on people.
it be cool if they did that for the rest of the human population
yes but we need to ackowledge them as people. Because no matter how much their views disgust us they’re still built of the same flesh and blood as we are, they are a warning, to you and people around you, to not fall into the same ideological trap as they did. If you just consider them “not human” you put yourself at risk of following their steps.
All the cruel people in history we call monsters were humans. It’s an unnerving thought to share any likness with them, but it’s important we remember that nobody is born evil
Some of the people online are chatbots, that’s the reality we currently live in.
probably just top comment ads
Who? Where?
He looks ecstatic about his win.
This is stability that long-term planners appreciate.
saying “nobody in history has ever succeeded” in suppressing the will of Russians
Nobody except you
And Stalin
And the Monarchies
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And Lenin, and Khrushchev
The only surprise is that he hasn’t won by 187%.
Yeah, he’s down by about 40% of his usual vote. That must be all the dissidents!
Guessing nobody read the article…
Russia is a fascist dictatorship.
The sky is blue.
88? He’s slipping!
He’s down a solid 35%!
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I think it’s just his version of coming out of the closet.
I would like to see Trump talk about the 12% of fake voters that Russia has.
This month’s list of executions is relatively long
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I just want to point out here that this is what many Trump voters are hoping for. If you’re a US citizen, please vote in November.
They’ve been pushing “both options suck so why bother” rhetoric really hard too. They know they can’t get people to vote for trump so their best bet is to get them not to vote
Yes, to the point that
Shit like this will only continue
Australia solved this. We have to vote.
They also made it easy to vote - our main voting day is always a Saturday If you won’t be able to vote on that day for some reason, there are small polling places open for a couple of weeks ahead of that date.If you won’t be able to vote on that day for some reason, there are small polling places open for a couple of weeks ahead of that date.
For the record, early voting is an option in many US states, too, and it’s really expanded since COVID. In my state, you could go to any poll location to cast an early vote. It used to be you could only cast an early vote if you were going to be away from home in election day for a specific reason (college or military are the ones I remember, but there were other reasons, too), but it’s expanded so pretty much anyone can do early voting now. On election day, you have to go to your assigned poll location in order to vote if you don’t do early voting.
This varies by state, though. In any case, it’s getting easier to vote, and there are more options to be able to vote, but it’s not nationwide (yet, hopefully).
This is fantastic to hear. Now, you just need to be able to vote at any elementary school and get your democracy sausage and you’ll be voting like the professionals!
Can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not (the sausage thing seems to imply you are), but all public schools (elementary, middle, and high school) are closed on election day so that they can act as polling locations. Many libraries also act as polling locations on election day.
It sure would make it harder for them if both options didn’t indeed suck. Biden is light years better than Trump, but he’s still pretty much shit.
I suspect that Trump will congratulate him on his win soon.
Accidents already planned for the administrators who allowed the 12% through.
WDYM, they’ve likely just drawn the numbers.
At this point nobody is seriously trying to get some data from them (that they pretend to give openly, the last time these were text on a webpage with scripts and WOFF fonts used for obfuscation - like the letter “a” is in fact “+” and so on ; people used OCR for that, there were “anomalies”).
There’s a meme percentage in Russian-speaking web - 146%, that’s what once made it to TV for some voting district.
Ye, Churov’s coefficient
Nah, that 12% is left for the satellite parties to test the waters for Putin. The satellite parties can fail freely, without affecting the popularity of Putin.
Crap I forgot to vote is there still time?
Same here, but I’ve seen the list of candidates, and the only one not causing immediate disgust is the senior citizen from CPRF.
Invalid ballot means second round anyway. The one with multiple ticks.
Don’t worry. The current version of the KGB already filled in your ballot.
current version of the KGB
