Alabama also passed a bill to ban the sale and manufacturing of it, making it a Class C felony.
What in the fuck is going on in these guys heads. I get being beholden to the cattle industry but this shit is beyond that
They probably have their identities tied to meat consumption. That’s also a reason for the climate denialism. I recently learned about petro-masculinity and it seems very plausible to me.
They are actually that fragile.
The same people believed margarine was a grave socialist (iirc) threat to the country and made the production and sale of that a felony. I think around a century ago. Something, something, those who neglect to learn history, something something…
Don’t bring up partially hydrogenated vegetable oil here. You’re gonna jinx us and make fake meat kill everybody.
It’s about pushing all the people who live there and disagree with the Republican agenda.
Always with the lame anecdotal argument that sounds like it came from a drunk idiot.
This is great! This’ll lower prices for everyone else.
oh my sweet summer child…
They’re actually setting up the board with some big criminal penalties for selling it. It’ll have a cross state freezing effect on the vendors as a whole and transportation through states. They’re going full drug war on it. I didn’t expect their need for cattle farmer votes to be so acute.
Fortunately you don’t need to go through Florida to get to many… Any… Other states.
Jacksonville is actually a very busy port but mostly for roll on/roll off (cars). Still, I think that having states that will put you in jail for selling or manufacturing products might hamper your ability to do interstate business and maintain warehouses for your grocery stores.
Yeah, florida kinda the least relevant state for shipping when push comes to shove. Stuff is shipped into florida, but not much is shipped out of florida.
They don’t give a fuck about the cattle farmers votes. They care about that cattle farmers payment for their vote.
I have no idea what is going on. Is the article biased and not telling us something we should know about the reasoning behind these bills? Are these politicians taking payment from “big-meat”?
Almost certainly yes, because ag business loves their government subsidies.
Florida state Rep. Tyler Sirois, the Republican who introduced a similar bill, HB 1071, told Politico that his major motivation is protecting the cattle industry. “Farming and cattle are incredibly important industries to Florida,” Sirois stated
Safe to say they’re 100% taking bribes from the cattle industry
We’ll, I guess that means lab-grown meat is showing promise! I look forward to seeing it in stores.
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Small government means making it ILLEGAL to be Vegan or Vegetarian!
You should try reading the article before commenting. The “fake meat” they are referring to is lab grown from the living cells of animals not vegetable amalgamations made to imitate meat.
The “fake meat” they are referring to is lab grown from the living cells of animals not vegetable amalgamations made to imitate meat.
Depending on an individual’s reasons for following a vegan or vegetarian diet, lab-grown meat may very well be okay.
If their reasons are nutrition based, sure, they should avoid lab-grown meat.
If their reasons are based in the ethics of raising animals for slaughter, factory farming, or the carbon footprint and/or food and water waste involved in raising an entire animal just for parts of it to be food, then lab-grown meat might be fine in their mind.
From the little I’ve seen of discussions, it depends on the implementation. I haven’t looked at the details yet, but apparently there are some groups who require at least an initial animal biopsy, and I think someone said something about some growth mediums requiring animal exploitation as well.
Then there’s the animal testing side of things.
Since both health and animal rights matter to me, I have no interest in consuming the stuff. If a commercially viable company emerges that can make these meats without any animal exploitation or suffering though, then I might recommend them to others.
From the little I’ve seen of discussions, it depends on the implementation. I haven’t looked at the details yet, but apparently there are some groups who require at least an initial animal biopsy, and I think someone said something about some growth mediums requiring animal exploitation as well.
Then there’s the animal testing side of things.
Since both health and animal rights matter to me, I have no interest in consuming the stuff. If a commercially viable company emerges that can make these meats without any animal exploitation or suffering though, then I might recommend them to others.
I respect this position.
At a certain point I wonder if it will start to seem similar to what I say to anti-choicers (specifically the ones who believe killing an embryo is murder) about drugs developed using embryonic stem cell channels. If years from now they’re still growing off of an initial biopsy taken years before, then the initial harm done is surely outweighed by the harm reduction that came from it. That is to say, a reduction in factory farming and animal slaughter is worth a biopsy. Or even an initial slaughter.
Just like I would encourage my anti-choice family members to get their vaccines and continue to take ibuprofen (and basically every other drug, because most use stem cell lines in their development), I would encourage vegans and vegetarians at the very least not to oppose lab grown meat. But of course you can eat whatever you want.
(Obviously I am not saying you have to agree with me, this is just where I might fall depending on the realities that are eventually reached with lab-grown meat.)
Yeah, to be honest there really is no consensus about this within vegan communities. I would say from an ethical stand point, the biggest thing would be if a company is continually abusing animals in their processes. And animal testing is a difficult subject too, because virtually every food has been subjected to animal testing.
I do think it’s also worth mentioning that plants really are perfectly fine to center a diet around, in and of themselves. I had a really difficult time transitioning to a plant-based diet because addiction is in my genes. But at the same time I was at a place in my life where my health was declining fast, I felt like shit all the time, and I was having to force myself to eat every day. I hated food. But after I got used to eating 100% plants, all of that completely changed. I felt better than I ever had. My arthritis-like symptoms (and other inflammatory problems) completely vanished. I had all kinds of energy that I never used to. And as I got better at cooking plant based and found good places to eat, I actually fell in love with food again. Plants are fucking great.
Oh so just more anti-science bullshit so they can choke down bribes from the meat industry.
Small minded government.
They want to force out everyone to the left of Matt gaetz so they never have to worry about pesky liberal voters ever again. If they could round up every registered Democrat and drop them off in California or new York, they fucking would.
Stand your ground beef, and the cattle doctrine, are important concepts in the south.
It’s only a slippery slope because they coated it with lard.
Worse. This is government deciding what you can eat. This is actual socialism (not the workers decide means of production kind though). Ron’s done this before with stocks.
So, not actual socialism then.
You might need a dictionary
Almost like “small government” was just a bullshit excuse to cut social services and avoid regulating against the unchecked greed and exploitation of wealthy executives, not something they genuinely believed.
Yeah, I think of it as a critical thinking short circuit mechanism. It’s a means of justifying any policy to their voters without actually having to list its merits or defend any harm it does. The voter thinks “smaller government = more freedom and more money for me” and their brain stops there.
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Oh, but don’t tell them about the house insurance rates, that’s a problem for their constituency, not them.
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Well, unions are actually highly regulated in the US. It was never about “small government”, it’s about using the government as a cudgel against who they don’t like, which is practically everyone below a billion net worth, and even some above.
The whole Republican establishment agenda right now is to do the white Christian version of Sharia Law.
Always has been.
Not long until they ban Linux!
It really is the socialist devil’s OS.
The alternative woke furry nerds love it.
Found one of the Lemmy people whose identity is “Linux”
So, it’s a race to heart disease against the environmental clock that’s working hard to turn the whole state into Shatlantis, part duh?
No. Not impossible burgers and the like. Just lab grown beef and the like
Even stupider 🤣
Impossburgs arent heart healthy
I don’t care what Rick Desantis says. It’s my right as an American to enjoy Soylent Green.
Does it come in green now? Last I checked it was original, chocolate, or coffee.
It comes in Mint Chocolate, which is green.
Green, red and yellow.
Now they just need purple and they can get Eminem and D12 to do an ad with their song slightly altered
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In fairness to them it’s not meat. Don’t ban it just label it appropriately, like sparkling protein.
How is it not meat?
It is literally meat though.
One bite and, bam, your transmexican.
Got to remember that one… It’ll come in handy for years to come!
What’s wrong with my transmexican?
Its an affront in the eyes of republijesus.
Because they are free market Republicans. /s
It cuts into the meat industry’s profits and is primarily desired by liberals
Not destroying the planet and killing sentient beings is “woke”, so they have to oppose it.
“Furthermore, on this day, henceforth shall it be known:
If it ain’t moo, cain’t moo, won’t moo, ain’t not never gonna moo, and can’t make you moo, then it is of the devil and shall not be permitted.
Also, the words ‘front loaf’ are not permissible descriptions of the governor’s crotchetal regions.
Let it be law. “
Because they need to keep the kill count high otherwise some other demon will surpass them.
I’m so fucking sick of the Florida government. House insurance is astronomical, but they’re worried about lab-grown meat, teachers saying gay, and books.
Think of them a bit like a friend with a drug problem. They gotta ride this train all the way to the bottom before there will be any interest in change.
Politics is bout ideology, value and belief. But here, it’s about making decisions by dogmatism and cult. This is a whole different level.
Party of small government my fucking ass. Also, isn’t the free market allowed to produce any product and compete for consumer spending? Isn’t that capitalism?
Desantis is literally pushing these laws and screaming woke while pocketing millions of dollars of “donations” from the large cattle ranching companies throughout the state. Hell, he started attacking Disney once they stopped paying him millions in bribes too. Disney’s disagreement with the dont say gay bill was the perfect excuse
No.
Capitalism is when certain industries and certain corporations amass such a market share that they are able to bribe legislatures to prohibit any competitors to their product, under force of law.
Similar to the exertion of influence by noble families under feudalism.
If our democracy has already been captured by such corporate actors, then it is difficult to imagine how “remembering to vote” could meaningfully correct such deep systemic flaw. Emigrating to Norway seems to be one of a handful of plausible remaining options
It’s all bad faith arguments. They just use it as a weapon to get their way. Although, this reeks of corporate regulatory capture.
I wanna get one of those cigarette boats and smuggle abortion pills and alternative meat into Florida and trans people out.
It’ll be black with a red racing stripe and a spoiler like the A Team van and I’ll name it the Baracus.
The fun part is the coast guard won’t care.
Can I join you? I will bring one two and we can start the freedom floatilla.
