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Well we know his wife won’t be driving him to the meetings
UN trolling hard these days. Damn
The UN is a captured organization. It no longer serves its purpose, and is now an arm of the oil producing countries state departments more than anything. I don’t have a good suggestion for what to replace it with but it’s sure AF not worthy of being respected any longer.
The UN’s purpose is
“To maintain international peace and security, and to that end: to take effective collective measures for the prevention and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace, and to bring about by peaceful means, and in conformity with the principles of justice and international law, adjustment or settlement of international disputes or situations which might lead to a breach of the peace;”- United Nations Charter, Chapter I: Article 1: Section 1
the other sections reference international friendship and equal rights, but section 1 is the meat f why it exists, the UN was created after two World Wars, it’s primary goal is to prevent a third and has so far been overwhelmingly successful.
We’ve avoided world wars by allowing conflicts to fester around the globe. I’d be curious whether the death toll would be higher had there been a world war, but I guess there’s still plenty of people left to die in forgotten places like Sudan so the calculation will have to wait.
Pretty sure the fallout from WW3 is gonna hurt everyone everywhere…war in Sufan is still a pretty long way off from a death toll in the billions.
I don’t think peace through submission was the original goal here though is the point
Kinda was. That’s why the UK and France have a permanent seat on the UNSC but Germany and Japan categorically do not.
Yeah peace through making the bad guys submit. Not rolling over and just letting them take whatever they want because “well if we actually did anything it would cause a scene”
Like a cop seeing someone break a law and going “wow that sure sounds like a lot of paperwork” and them walking away
I’d rather the assholes of the world think they’re accomplishing something by writing bullshit resolutions rather than dropping bombs.
We just have to not take the UN seriously while still having the authoritarian assholes think the UN is serious business.
The Security Council is the only thing that ever really mattered anyway. Having the nuclear powers have to sit in a room together is important. The General Assembly has always been a clown show.
We have a bunch of alliances between democracies (NATO and other alliances) and the security council because we have to negotiate with the authoritarians with nukes. The minor despots can have the UN General Assembly to clown around in. Better to have petty narcissistic dictators throw their tantrums in the UN GA rather than expressing their feelings with their military.
Any Expanse fans? We need James Holden to stick his dick in it.
Did it ever serve it’s purpose?
The whole point was a united nation front to avoid another Nazi war, but they gave the blue hats no teeth. It served purpose for purpose sake but no real action
At one point I’m sure it was helpful to someone. Now it’s just a weapon the oil producing countries plus China of the world wield against the rest.
No third world war yet. So i assume yes.
That is an incredibly low bar to judge any organization. There are multiple conflicts going around the world that UN has done nothing to do. When it comes to permanent members of the Security council, the UN is powerless. Heck, it is powerless if one of the permanent members decides to flex it’s muscles somewhere else geographically either.
Also, no world war is also largely due to presence of nukes with nations. The concept of Mutually Assured Destruction prevents nations from going into full blown wars when 2 nuclear powers are involved.
The UN has the power the nations want to give it. And for now, its this. Dont complain about the UN, complain about our governments
I’m young and ignorant, so I don’t know what I’m talking about and I’d be open to anyone posting any links for me to learn from. But I remember being in middle and high-school 20 years ago, and learning about the UN’s “millennium goals” that they were trying to achieve by 2015. And they were… awesome. Like the real definition of awesome. They were awe-inspiring. And they made me hopeful as a young teen. And I remember when 2015 came and went and they hadn’t even come close to meeting those goals. And I remember thinking, okay, well, they’ll keep trying. But they didn’t keep trying, and in fact I never heard anyone talk about the millennium goals ever again. And then 2016 came, and at least from my American-centric viewpoint, the world has been on a rapid decline since then. And I am honestly so hopeless, like rock bottom hopless, like, I don’t know what the future is gonna be, but i can’t imagine a good one if we stay on this path, and I don’t know what to do, because I’m not a world leader.
I used to have so much respect and admiration for the UN but they’re just as garbage as every other power in the world. This post is a fucking joke. My ex partner is from Saudi. I remember excitedly asking him about his opinion and his families opinion when women were first given permission to drive and he was DISGUSTED. Said “this should have happened ages ago, Saudi is using this as a PR move, why should we be happy that women are just now getting this right?”
Anyway. Sorry for the long response to your sarcastic comment. Have a good day. Xoxo.
Sorry that your faith in supranational organisations was so thoroughly squashed. It do be like that though. For a little while, Truman hoped that all nuclear weapons could be put under the control of the UN. Then that went belly up when the soviet union under Stalin learned how to build them. Theres always the IAEA though.
Truman never wanted that. He flew around knowing that his nukes gave him an advantage over the USSR. From this paper, it is clear that Truman wanted to maintain an atomic monopoly and as for Joint Chiefs of Staff, they didn’t want to share the nuclear secrets with any organization including the UN.
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Reality really is beyond satire.
SatireSartre : Hell is other people…
What’s next? North Korea as chair of the human rights forum?
Israel for world peace!
America for workers rights!
Turkmenistan for world trade!Marocco for the Decolonization Committee! Luxemburg for the United Nations Population Fund!
Russia for LGBT+ rights
After COP 28 this totally makes sense.
The UN: how can we be more of a joke to the world??
Oh oh, let’s appoint an atheist to the board of Islamic affairs!
Even then, I think an average atheist politician would handle Islamic affairs more fairly than an average Muslim politician would handle gender equality affairs, at least in most cases.
There is no atheist book that the atheist has to follow. The Quran, on the other hand, has misogyny kind of built into it, sadly.
Edit: I feel like I should add that this misogyny problem isn’t unique to Islam. The Abrahamic religions all have outdated takes on gender equality. I would have the same negative feelings about a devout Christian politician being put in charge of gender equality.
Man, the world’s gonna be a MUCH better place when the House of Saud finally goes the way of the dinosaur.
They already did, but some other Saudis realised those dinosaur bones had oil and they went full circle again.
I don’t want to nitpick, because everyone gets what you’re trying to say.
But dinosaurs still exist today: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_birds
I would also be fine with them evolving into something more relevant to the times
it may be hard to believe but womens rights have been progressing steadily. link
Don’t get me wrong, there’s a long long way to go, but I’m glad they at least seem to be heading in a positive direction.
Unless it’s just replaced with something objectively worse…which wouldn’t be the first time in history something like that happened.
They already massacred Yemen as a monarchy while their crown prince is known for dismembering journalists, they’re about as bad as it gets.
Maybe I’m just cynical, but I can imagine many, many ways it could get worse and only a few of them involve nuclear or bio weapons.
This oil fields aren’t moving. If the Saus family is ousted, we just talk to the new family
What I would to see is a Saud realizing he’s on the outs, crying on the tarmac. But that’s just mean
This oil fields aren’t moving.
Yes they are. We’ve been moving them out of the ground and into the atmosphere for almost ninety years.
I believe one day in the future, maybe by aliens hands or maybe by some incredible new discovery, religion will cease to exist and the world will be finally peacefull with people working for the betterment of their lifes not praying for a ghost
edit: a religion plague that kills only dumb people also works lol
This will not happen, as long as other people find a way to use “religion” for power, influence or financial gain. Some people already thought that the mass adaption of the internet would be the end of religion, scams and other fraud preying on the gullible minds, because people could just read up what the catch is and not fall for it, right?
Unfortunately the scams just adapted, made their own flashy homepages that mostly outranked critical information and people just choose to belive what they want to belive.
We didn’t know how dumb people really was.
This is how you know the UN is a complete fucking joke at this point that we still waste tax dollars on
The UN is working 100% as intended. You want world war 3 because you dislike what this article says? Absolutely delusional.
The purpose of the UN is so that nuclear powers have a forum to talk, instead of, you know, ending all human life on the planet.
Everything else is just sort of stuff that came along once you had all the countries of the world sitting around realizing that they should do something once they’re in the same room.
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It reflects the reality of the world.
Say the UN security council ordered Russia to immediately withdraw from Ukraine. Great, right?
Then Russia just says “No.”
Ok now what? What can anyone do when a country that has nuclear weapons refuses to comply with an order from the UN? I guess they could write another strongly worded letter which would also be ignored.
The nuclear powers can unilaterally veto anything because that’s simply the reality of the world. If you have the UN trying to enforce something that a nuclear power doesn’t want that could lead to a nuclear war. Which would be bad.
If countries are satisfied with writing resolutions that accomplish nothing then it’s better than having a war. And that’s the ultimate goal of the UN, to make countries waste time on UN resolutions that accomplish nothing instead of having wars.
Don’t think of the UN as a police force, they aren’t. Think of it more like a global politics version of lemmy. A lot of idiots writing angry things at one another and getting nothing done. But getting nothing done is better than having a war.
Tax dollars
Tell us more about your country’s attitude towards abortion
You mean Canada? We’ve had pro choice for years. Do not assume everyone is American
Also this makes you and everyone else who does this look like an asshole so fuck off
Akchually, I know what you’re saying but technically you’re also American, as in, from the continent of America. I’m just being cheeky ignore me.
twitches in Canadian
Fair enough. If you want to solve the problem of gender equality, give it to the experts.
well, nobody ever complains (or they’ll die)
It’s getting harder and harder to make satire because it keeps becoming reality.
People from Saudi Arabia have been on the UN human rights panel for awhile
Fucking stupid timeline we’re trapped in
“I’d rather be sliding”
I made a nicer shirt than that a while ago, but it’s what today’s craptacular search gives up.
