This toggle is annoying because what was once 1 press to turn on BT is now 2. It gets me every day.
So, maybe a weird question, but what are you doing with your phone exactly that you need to turn on Bluetooth on a daily basis?
This was pointed out already that I could just unpair my personal phone to my speaker, but I have 2 phones. I have a speaker at work both are paired to. So every day I turn bluetooth off so when I turn my speaker on I’m not announcing connection to my personal phone because it violates cell phone policy. Because it announces connection to both, I turn bluetooth off before I go inside. Since I have a work phone, I’m good to use that one, just not my personal phone.
I sometimes use Bluetooth headphones but turn off Bluetooth to save battery.
I will never understand wireless headphones as a concept. They seem objectively worse in every way.
Lower sound quality, more battery intensive, have to be charged, less comfortable, easier to drop and way easier to lose. Also, makes you look like you’re talking to yourself all the time
I went - kind of - wireless so I’ll never break another connector in my phone and I can change clothes (for work) all day long. My buds are physically connected to each other but not to my phone. Perfect set-up of compromises when I travel and work. (Sony WI-C310)
Sound quality is sufficiently indistinguishable in quality for me, battery lasts way longer than I need, more comfortable because I don’t have a cable being snagged on things, never dropped or lost them, and if you can’t see my over-ear headphones then no wire is going to help you.
Additionally I can connect to multiple devices (computer and mobile) and I can get up and walk around as I need and not lose audio.
I thought some of these things initially, but then I noticed I wasn’t constantly accidentally getting the cord hooked on things and yanking them out of my ears all the time. That bit has been super nice. Plus I have a pair that sounds absolutely fantastic…no issues with sound quality. Maybe I’m just a klutz, but freeing yourself of wires is super nice.
Note that if you only use headphones in a stationary position, a wire isn’t very obtrusive. But if I’m doing something like laundry, the dishes, cleaning up, getting some exercise, or even just being seated at my computer (where I would always forget I had wired headphones on and I would yank them off when I stood up), going wireless has been great.
HOWEVER, one of the biggest downsides to wireless headphones has been gaming. The latency makes them unusable for that purpose imo. We just aren’t there yet in terms of that tech.
I’m glad I’m not the only one feeling this way.
I think however this is just based on how the average user interacts with this toggle. Very few users actively turn off their BT, ever, as they have frequent situations where they want their BT to just work immediately.
OTOH, this means that in some cases, they need to swap which device to connect to, hence opening the menu on the first tap.
Fuck this noise! Hate it.
They need to add a way to quick toggle it, maybe a double tap or hold.
Tap and hold should bring this menu up. Tap should just toggle it. It’s stupid.
Isn’t this how it used to work? I hate the double toggle too.
Yuuuup
I was literally mini ranting to my partner about it yesterday. I keep my bluetooth off unless I’m actively using it so it’s annoying. Hold still brings you to the bluetooth settings.
What’s even more annoying is aside from the internet, every other bubble is a toggle on mine so you’re now mixing actions on the same looking icons.
Edit: apparently I missed the little tiny arrow in the corner, that should tip me off of the entire different behaviour
This is part of why is think stock android is now trash. I’ll stick to oem skins for now
And then they don’t toggle where you want to toggle (a connect / disconnect on each device) so you have to tap and guess or open settings anyway
my phone does single tap to toggle and tap on the down arrow or longpress for settings page
It’s so Google can keep tracking you via Bluetooth and WiFi, which they hope you forgot to turn off said tracking option in settings, and they are making it difficult to turn off all the way.
I honestly thought this was my own doing and was about to go insane when I couldn’t find the setting to revert this. Why on earth would they do this…
I put buttons on screens for people at work and I’m imagining the fury that would rain down on me if I put 2 buttons in place do a normal thing that was once one button. I would never hear the end of it.
I’ve felt this a lot over the years. Regressions in interface designs happen here and there, and I feel it’s just people justifying their jobs. We have to change this, and that, and EVERYTHING, to keep it fresh. Where in reality, sometimes only some things need changing.
I Fucking Hate It!
I thought this was only on graphene, as a way to confirm your wanted Bluetooth radio turned on. As a general Android update, it makes no sense
Same bullshit they did when they combined WiFi and Cell into one toggle and called it “internet”.
Like DO YOU PEOPLE JUST NOT UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THIS MENU YOU YOURSELVES CREATED!?
That’s a major improvement. Nobody turns off Bluetooth.
It’s now easier to check or disconnect devices.
Location and Bluetooth are constantly off for me, my phone is lucky if it isn’t in airplane mode.
Solely for battery lmao. I don’t know if it even matters anymore but it’s an old habit
It’s a good ol’ habit.
Bluetooth always off for me, until I need it. Then I’ll turn it on, then back to off.
Yes we do. I have Bluetooth off 95% of the time, unless I’m using headphones
I like my battery more than I like my Bluetooth.
I would turn your yelling around: Do you honestly believe the vast majority of users need more than just that functionality, which beelines you into connecting to a specific Wi-Fi over toggling anything on or off?
Much like the Bluetooth menu, these changes are driven by the fact that the vast vast majority of users only ever need to access a quick “connect to this BT device” or “I want to connect to this Wi-Fi” menu. Never anything else.
It sucks as a power user, but at least for me I could find individual toggles when editing the quick panel.
Do you honestly believe the vast majority of users need
If users don’t need it, then why was it created in the first place? Of course they need it.
If you want to change networks or Bluetooth devices, that’s what the setting menu is for. This is called a “quick toggle” because it’s intended to quickly toggle connections on and off.
So now what would you do if the data were to show that the vast majority need fast access to a menu to swap which BT device is connected, but only few ever turn it on or off?
Wouldn’t it make sense to have the connect menu available quickly, and the on/off deeper in the configuration, just like you say it but the other way around?
Of course, 10+ versions ago the devs expected the toggle to be used frequently. But unless our users are a very skewed sample, fucking nobody (if you round it) ever does. Same with toggling data.
What’s even more infuriating is that the panel is blue even if both wifi and cell network are tuned off!
I hated that too, but buried in the’edit’ list I still found separate toggles for WiFi and data (on Lineage OS)
What edit list?
When you edit your quick-access tiles. Mine has a little pencil if I expand the notification area fully. I have these choices, where ‘Internet’ is the annoying combined WiFi/data button, but the other two were in there and I just had to drag them out instead.
Interesting, I don’t have those options on Pixel
They used to be there and were removed a couple updates ago. Really annoyed me.
Going through the comments, I think it’s clear to conclude this should be a choice to configure this tile. Some people prefer single tap to turn off, some don’t
What version are you on? 15? I’m on 14, and for me it’s as it ever was. Also, can you replace it by editing the Shortcuts? I was able to replace the Internet thingy with separate toggles for Mobile Data/WiFi by doing that.
I’m on 14 on a Google pixel 6 pro. I tried what you suggested but there’s no option to alter it, but thanks.
Hmh. Annoying. I’m on lineage, and I noticed that the stock Pixel Rom seems to be more limited like that in some ways.
I’m on 14 but on a Pixel 8 and it’s like OP shows now. Clicking the button on the quick menu just opens the screen OP is showing instead of turning off the BT radio like it did on my previous phone, which was also on Android 14.
For some reason, certain features and UI changes don’t happen for every device even if they’re on the same version of the OS. Like every phone maker has their own tweaked version of it for their specific phone, and it’s not a universal experience for everyone just being on Android.
I mean, sure, but both lineage and the stock rom on pixels should be reasonably close to stock Android, compared to stuff like, for example, MI UI.
The “stock” rom offered by Google’s own devices seems “enhanced” to the stock android given to any other device. But even between them, there are odd differences. My sister has a Pixel 7, just 1 iteration behind mine, and on the same OS version; but the UI isn’t exactly the same. I can see special apps not being for hers, like Gemini (and even features of Gemini I do not have but the 8 Pro does); but for the basic settings menu and quick menu and shit to be different is weird as hell.
Yeah, dunno what Google’s on. I’ve noticed that on my brothers pixel, it’s not possible to deactivate the visual guide in the bottom of the screen for gesture navigation. The option just doesn’t appear in his settings. It’s all a bit silly.
Hello, fellow kde connect user.
Uh, this is kinda awkward, but I actually use a Gnome extension to be able to use KDE Connect.
Edit: Oh, wait, I read KDE instead of KDE Connect. Well, ignore the above, then.
