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I haven’t bought a new car since 2004. How fucked am I when I need a new one?
Very
Well for starters. You’re in for a shock when you see prices.
No longer can you buy a car for under 10k that just works.
Well, you wouldn’t buy a 10 year old used laptop, but I drive my second 06 Forester, almost 20 years old.
But for a new car, fucked.
My Thinkpad collection scoffs at your presumptions.
I didn’t buy my i5-5xxx Thinkpad, it was a gift lol
Well, you wouldn’t buy a 10 year old used laptop,
IBM thinkpads and Linux bros disagree.
MacBook Pro + Linux as well.
Also purchased with: … striped socks?
RIP your head gasket
I miss our Forester
Haha I gota new head gasket in 2021. It was a $2K job. Still cheaper than getting a new car.
First one rusted out around 210k, never had gasket trouble. This one’s been burning a quart of oil every 500 miles since I got it at 105k. I just keep it topped off.
2012 Chevy sonic reporting in, you’re fucked
Let me put it this way: don’t. Or consider buying a newer used car.
$0.02: If you can keep your 2004 on the road for less than a new car payment, and can suffer the downtime for repair, just don’t. The price of new vehicles is way more out-of-whack with inflation and wages than ever before. Also, it looks like manufacturers have become more crafty at steering you back to the dealership for repairs.
My recent new car experience, after retiring a 17 year old vehicle, left me floored with how normalized “spending the day at the dealership” had become. They almost fought me to drop the car off for a recall at a scheduled appointment time, instead of just using the key drop. No thanks, I won’t be watching bad cable, drinking bad coffee, all while huffing new tire and brake cleaner fumes all day. This is not the great service you think it is, thank you.
Your wallet is pretty fucked but I got a 2023 Honda Odyssey and I never loved an automobile like this in my life. It’s a perfect vehicle by my measure.
You have to hunt really, really, hard to find a model without all the shit. I picked up my teenager an outlander Sport last summer.
All the reviews said: the infotainment is dated and older. The engine and transmission hasn’t changed in 5 years with no major issues… Perfect.
Lots of physical buttons and the infotainment center is not critical for the car to function. No climate control settings on it etc. Carplay and AndroidAuto only play through the USB. No OnStar, wifi, or cellphone connectivity.
I do most of my own maintenance after having some clusterfucks at mechanics. I simply follow the manual and check things off. It’s the easiest car I have maintained since the 80’s. An oil change on it takes 5 minutes. On my wife’s Ford escape it takes 5 minutes to get the fucking cover off to get to the oil plug.
I will probably buy another one for my other son in a year when he starts driving.
Prices have gone berserk. New tech and safety features you get are great, if implemented well. Going for a more reliable and conservative car brand might be better for you, and don’t ever buy anything that has capacitative buttons instead of physical ones. Hopefully, safety agencies will downright outlaw this shitty trend soon.
All new cars still do the normal car functions, they just also do more stuff that you don’t have to use. Turning off lane assist was one of the first things I did in line since my state refuses to paint lines more than once a decade and refuses to spray off the temp lines from construction projects so it freaked out and tried steering me all the time because it couldn’t read lanes well.
Don’t listen to people saying you’re screwed, spend 30 minutes going through settings, the dealer should help with this if asked, and then drive like every other car in the last 30 years
There’s nothing quite like starting the configuration of a linux distro on top of shiny new hardware.
Just click next next until Ubuntu is installed
And that is absolutely fine. Everyone can hop into Linux with Ubuntu and be up and running and is finally free from Microshit.
But it’s super fun to have all the config files for e.g. hyprland and what not open while adjusting every single microscopic little screw to make your system exactly the way you want.
We are in the minority of minorities my friend lol
Windows 11 has made me feel old.
wtf just popped up, whats it doing
Even on maybe 6 year old hardware and SSD some components like the news and weather, sometimes search just take so long to populate that its a question why anyone would use it, and I often don’t intend to
wheres that setting
Still have control panel and settings, now we get two right click menus! (More options summons the old win10 styled right click context)
Wish I could stick to windows 7, it was comfortable and clean, people got in a tizzy when they decided to report when you logged on to a server. And look im sounding old
The two right-click menus are just pain. I can’t imagine the reasoning. It’s a core UX interaction that is used by every user repeatedly throughout the day. There is no excuse for this type of redundant, time-wasting nonsense.
Well the new one is cleaner! But it didnt fit all the options because we forgot how to make dynamic UI elements, so we figured the user would be fine clicking again and just reimplementing the last dynamic UI we had.
But heres a button for our AI product that summons an edge window locked to the side of your screen that provides the same functionality as using it in your browser!
Priorities, I guess!
Wish I could stick to windows 7
Bring back XP. Win 7 is far better than 10, which is more tolerable than 11, but XP didn’t have any of the multiple settings menu systems.
Changes like this don’t come about in a vacuum. Microsoft made it easy for users to fuck things up and users did fuck things up and then users complained about Windows getting fucked up when it was the users doing the fucking.
So now Microsoft has made it harder to fuck up Windows because people complaining about it being hard to fuck up Windows is more politically tolerable than people fucking up Windows and then telling everyone Windows is all fucked up.
Sure, but I’d wager that pales in comparison to the gain from being able to conveniently ‘default’ users to the options that grant MS access to the largest amount of data.
In addition, a somewhat plausible excuse to then hide away the ability to turn off all of this ‘guidance’ under the pretense of looking out for the end users.
This is the telemetry and monetisation equivalent of “we have to ban encryption to stop the criminals and terrorists, won’t somebody please think of the children” only much more successful
Does anyone know how to delete OneDrive (disable it and delete all the data in it) without deleting my Microsoft account? There’s random old pictures backed up there, I use my MS account for Minecraft and nothing else.
I’ve tried but there’s no button for disabling it that I can find on the website?? All the instructions talk about some kind of OneDrive folder but I’m on Linux so of course I don’t have that.
Shit in a manilla envelope and mail it to Microsoft’s headquarters.
It won’t help with your one drive issue but it’ll be hilarious and if enough people do it then it could become a real headache.
While Microsoft deserves this, USPS workers don’t. Spend the money you would have getting a newer computer that can run Windows 11 to fly to their headquarters and take the dump at their doorstep. Bonus points for maintaining eye contact with the receptionist or security guard.
Run a PowerShell session as admin and enter the following commands:
Get-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online | Where-Object { $_.PackageName -match “OneDrive” } | Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online -AllUsers
Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers | Where-Object { $_.Name -match “OneDrive” } | Remove-AppxPackage -AllUsers
Might be easier to do this in PowerShell ISE so you can edit these two commands. But this will first remove the installer package for OneDrive so that it can’t reinstall again, and then it removes the installed app from all profiles.
I haven’t personally tested this, but I use PowerShell professionally and the commands are solid. If it didn’t work then it just means that Microsoft packaged OneDrive in a different manner than the other built-in apps. You can also remove other annoying apps that are pre-loaded this way. Just swap out “OneDrive” for the proper name or partial proper name of the appx app. Use Get-AppxPackage by itself to learn what the proper names are for the apps that are installed.
You people just don’t remember how god awful the interface everything was back then as well. What really drives the annoyed sentiment is that everyone can do better than Microsoft, like, literally a baby can do better interface
I’d literally kill a hobo if that would give me back Windows 7 interface back instead of two different settings panels.
Windows 7’s control panel is better than whatever the heck Microsoft is doing with 10/11 (for one thing it actually worked for changing settings) but holy crap was it a horrible UI
What were your gripes with it? I mainly had tab grouping disabled, classic start menu, ran it via Windows classic theme.
Oh I was talking specifically about the Control Panel being terrible
Oh I always switched that to classic view instead of going through BS grouping.
But even then it was always too long hunting for the right thing within Control Panel after the extra click to make it easier to find the setting you needed. That’s my point. Compare that to your phone, or honestly even Windows 10’s new settings menu if it actually consistently worked for changing settings
Why kill the homeless when you can eat the rich?
Enshitification of technology is brought to us by capitalism tm
I’d literally eat the rich if it’ll get me a single settings menu back
Interesting. I agree of course, but people will downvote rather than search their memory. 7 had awful settings in the beginning. Every single version of windows has had awful settings.
Hey, I know everyone wants a nice software experience.
But in Microsoft’s defense, why shouldn’t every user allow Microsoft to extract at regular intervals a part of the monetary value of users’ life-force until death? OneDrive and Windows SaaS is a great model, actually, that enables exciting opportunities to vampirically suck dollars from bank accounts of every single user continuously forever.
Has nobody even thought of the substantial ARPU benefits?
hOw AbOuT jUsT uSe LiNuX!
But the OneDrive shit is annoying. You get like one chance during the install to deny it, and if you miss it then fuck you.
It can be removed, it is just a monumental pain in the ass. I defenestrated onedrive from my ex’s laptop a couple years ago, I had to edit the registry and manually set all default windows folders.
Excellent use of defenestrated
Literally removed from windows!
Unfortunately the tech literate of us are in the minority.
Almost all consumer tech is targeted to the lowest common denominator which is either Dorris, the 68 year old lady from you legal department who prints off emails to read them. Or Jessylyn the Zoomer thats only ever used an iPhone and cant learn anything that take longer than 10 seconds to teach.
This has me wondering, are young people actually getting LESS pc literate? I’m sure there’s studies about that? It’s never occurred to me that growing up with computers but without smartphones was peak conditions for becoming tech literate.
Ive heard rumors that a portion of smartphone native youth cant figure out how to use a folder/directory
I personally believe interests plays a large role, tech evolved where 90% of things CAN be done on a phone so there is nothing really pushing people to learn about “older” tech.
The general enshitification of technology also plays a large role, almost everything is designed to manage your data while limiting users control. The my documents folder got replaced by a “recent” tab and a search box.
Yes. They don’t even know where to find files during their college classes
Are we sure this is zoomers being less tech literate, and not just being a common issue, but used in a way to shit on the next generation? I dealt with the same shit in highschool with other millennials, so this feels so much like those “Millennials are killing X” articles by out of touch boomers writing clickbait.
Working IT for close to 2 decades , I’m not convinced the users are getting dumber, as they’ve always been dumb af about technology. Maybe it’s because I’m out of end user support and don’t have to deal with modern stupidity, but talking to my support staff I don’t hear anything that I haven’t facepalms through my skull about before.
Meanwhile, my interns at work, who are a couple years younger than me, though we all are gen z, who had the chance of using AI at college whereas I graduated before chatgpt was a thing four years ago:
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Uh, sir, there’s no internet. How am I supposed to complete the Jupiter notebook if I can’t even remember how to code on my own.
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Hey chatgpt, how do I use X formula in excel…
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Where’s copilot?
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…index? Isn’t that one of the fingers? Oh, database index? Dunno, ask chatgpt.
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etc, etc
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The rank-and-file “I’m not a computer person” users are more or less unchanged and you won’t see much difference there.
What’s happening is that you have this huge swathe of people who are technically “familiar with computers” but still have no idea how they work because the details are obfuscated or hidden in most modern systems.
You won’t see the difference in support. You’re most likely to see the difference in teaching, especially in areas that attract people who have an interest in technology.
Tbf this happens to me sometimes when i have to use windows haha
But it makes sense. The more intuitive UIs became, the less incentive you have to understand what the PC actually does.
But like, is there studies about it? I didn’t find anything on a cursory DuckDuckGo search, just anecdotal articles
Can confirm this. I teach a programming class and about two years ago my brain exploded when I was helping a student debug a problem said “o, you tried to reference the file but it’s actually up one directory and inside another one so you’ll need to include the full (relative) path”
The blank look of “what the hell are you talking about” threw me for a loop. So, then we talked about file systems for awhile…
I’ve done support for sysadmins and I’ve run into a lot of them who don’t understand the concept of relative or absolute paths. A couple weeks ago I had to explain how password hashing works to people working for a huge aerospace company.
I think most people learn to use computers like they learn to use a car, in that they understand the rituals they need to perform to get it to do the thing they want. They lack understanding of what’s going on under the hood so when something goes wrong they can’t fall back on knowledge and figure out what went wrong, they have to learn an entirely new routine to fix it instead of learning the principles and thinking critically.
Adeptus Mechanicus Intensifies
I’ve been catching myself calling it the activation rune instead of the power button.
I’ve worked as a sysadmin for 4 years and was recently offered a position as IT security consultant, and I don’t know how password hashing works. (Don’t worry, I rejected the position)
Thank you for not becoming yet another turtle on a post.
Plus it wasn’t even how the hashing works, just explaining how a system can check if a password is correct without decrypting the password. They’re getting millions of my tax dollars to build this IT system for the military and they don’t even understand that one-way hashes exist.
It was awhile ago but there was an article saying that newer generations are PC illiterate because they grow up using smartphones.
ApparentlySmartphones and PCs are different skill sets.Apparently Smartphones and PCs are different skill sets.
Why is this ‘Apparently’. 99.99% of Smart Phone Users have no ability to access the cryptic file system.
It’s very different.
If you can’t find an app that ‘does it for you’. You just don’t do it on a smart phone. That’s not how a PC can work.
True. It was a poor choice of words because it’s definitely different skill sets.
The first android device I ever worked with was a tablet I got for college and I hated how convoluted it seemed to access the file system. There were many things I tried to do that I knew how to do on Windows and Linux but struggled to get done on the tablet. I have the same problems now that I’ve finally gotten a smartphone.
This is why my phone is basically a phone/mp3 player/youtube player for me. Ive customized it to be as not convoluted as possible and I only use it for a handful of things. I also look at porn on it because why not.
They’ve been shown to be super susceptible to scams even. I probably support as many young users in my company as I do older ones, but virtually no one in the age range of ~25-35.
My opinion: yes but also no.
The proportion of the population that is has genuine, full command of any computer at their disposal probably isn’t all that much bigger than it was a few decades ago. Meanwhile, commodification of computing technology has put a gobsmacking amount of firepower in the hands of millions of people that have no earthly idea how it actually works, or how crippled their experience is. So by raw headcount, the experts and tech literate are proportionally a smaller group amongst all computer users. But as a percentage of the general population, probably not.
If I could provide one crucial takeaway from all this, it’s to not conflate technology use with literacy.
I had a class with a group of ~18 year olds a few years ago and more than half of them did not know how to use a desktop operating system. That gave me quite the reality check.
What’s weird about this is 18 years old a few years ago is roughly my age. I’m 26. But thinking of it, the first iPhone came out when I was about 11, but parents were super wary of letting their child use a mobile, let alone smart phone.
Absolutely. So many of the young new hires have no idea what a file is, how to find, edit, copy/paste/move a file, any of it. All they know is how to use is apps that vomit data to them in a “feed” type delivery style. Want them to analyze business trends? You need an app that shows them pre-made charts in a feed, they don’t know and will not learn how to collect data sources and build those charts themselves though
That’s the issue here, we techies are not the target audience anymore. Back when we started using Windows it was aimed at us because you had to understand it to use it. It’s dumbed down because it’s not made for people who care how it works or who want customisation.
I just set up VFIO. I remember it being a total pain in the ass a few years ago, so I was expecting to spend a whole week debugging and tweaking. But, it was surprisingly easy. In just a couple hours I’ve got a windows 11 VM with it’s own dedicated GPU up and running. And the next question that popped into my mind, that I’m yet to solve, is, “What now? What did I just do it for?”. All the games I wanted to play now work on wine/proton, some even went out of their way to not work in a VM specifically. Yes, there are a couple pieces of
shitsoftware that I need windows for, but I’d rather keep trying and testing open source alternatives, maybe even participate in their development to the best of my ability, rather than maintaining a VM just for them.its* own dedicated GPU
god i love linux. Shit just fucking breaks, doesn’t tell you, leaves you confused, until you go and find out why. Dont want an application? Great, it didn’t install to begin with, or you can just remove that shit.
Problem? Try something else. There’s something you’ll like eventually. I much prefer being treated as a schizo, to being treated like im a fucking deranged psychopath who likes floating windows, and nested settings menus for some reason. Please, take away my window arrangement freedoms, and give me something that does more, with less. I love it. It’s great. You want to know the best part? If you don’t want that, you just don’t have to use it. Truly an incredible platform.
These days it’s easy to license Windows, but hard to stop telemetry.
Microsoft actually charge you for the software you use, how can they maintain the illusion that you’re exchanging your data for access to the service?!
$50 per year, minimum. That’s how much data collection costs you. In reality, it’s far more, as that number makes various assumptions and does not include the value of the data Google, Facebook and Microsoft collect and keep to themselves - >$50 is just what’s traded openly on the market.
Microsoft charge $99 per year for Office, one of the main tools they use to collect user data.
As an aside, I really miss Lynx the Office Assistant.
I’d take Clippit at this point.
His name is Clippy!
It was all about the dog anyway XD
This is what trying to emulate Apple does to you. Fuck Windows 11.
Buying technology used to be like plucking a ripe apple from a tree. You see, you take, you enjoy.
Lately, I liken the process to gutting a fish. You now have to skillfully dispose of the unwanted bits, and it always comes with unwanted bits.
Edit: okay, you have to pay extra for the “professional” version to go back to a less encumbered experience. It’s still bad though.
Or choose open-source, which is either plucking the apple, or planting the whole orchard from seeds and tending it for years. Coin toss.
Pfft! Don’t like it? The code to the DNA is right there in the treepo.
The pro version is still pretty encumbered, pirate the LTSC version if you want unencumbered.
And that’s just computers. Cars and phones, man, holy crap.
To take your fish analogy, it’s like “Well maybe 5% of your catch is NOT laden with innumerable parasites, but they’re the only thing that lives here and we gotta eat so…”
Edit: “But I heard there’s a new breed that not full of parasites!”
“Yeah but those don’t seem to migrate here and if they do they either don’t thrive or get eaten by these bloated monstrosities.”
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Windows users will say this and then call you slurs when you even suggest other options exist
