It’s almost 2 am and I’m in bed and I still keep hearing pop pop boom outside. Is it that fun? Seriously. Also, what’s a better sub for this kind of post? Inb4 mastodon.
Don’t sell explosives to the public. Organized displays are fine.
This is how I feel. They’re annoying and obnoxious when a neighbour is setting them off at 1am, but when they’re done at a scheduled event by a pro they look great and usually aren’t close enough to disturb people or animals!
Fireworks are brilliant. I think you live somewhere with cultural issues… people reserve the right to party and annoy everyone else…
They have their time and place - and 2am sounds more like problms with arseholes, not Fireworks.
They should be banned after 9pm (except for New Year - extend until 00:20 for that).
I’ve been witness to some amazing displays that bring tears to my eyes they were so awesome. The most memorable being ones that I’m close enough to feel the pressure wave, a truly trouser flapping experience.
I love fireworks. I’ve been helping in professional level shows for a few years and ever since I basically stopped buying fireworks myself.
There’s no way I can capture even a whiff of the awesomeness of a proper display, yet I’d still spend hundreds on trash, trying. And I too get annoyed with random bangs throughout the days surrounding national holiday. There ought to be “shooting ranges” for the general public then let some pros do a proper display and see each other in a year again…
The big issue I have with “reserve the right to bother others” is that others includes animals, elderly people and small children, all of which may be really bothered by fireworks. A lot of birds die during fireworks every time, for example.
I don’t really get anything from fireworks, they all look the same to me.
It doesn’t even get dark in my area until 9pm during the summer. I would say 10/10:30pm
I like a professionally organized fireworks display - one where the town/organizer gives people plenty of notice, trained professionals conduct the display while sober, and emergency services are on standby.
I do not like the idea of an untrained person putting on their own fireworks display. They might have been drinking, there might be kids or pets nearby, they may not know what precautions to take. This negatively impacts neighborhoods when kids and people on alternative work shifts cannot get the rest that they need, pets become anxious, there is no designated start and stop time.
The environmental impact is also worth discussing. Burning copious amounts of chemicals will release fumes which are bad for the atmosphere and can very quickly impact people with medical issues like asthma. At least professionals clean up after themselves; often, people who put on their own shows tend to leave the waste wherever it lands.
I prefer having all of my fingers to making things explode.
You’re just mad that you weren’t invited.
I guess a well organized fireworks show can be quite amazing. What I don’t understand is how much private consumers will pay for it each year to literally see their money go up in smoke. That being said, I think those people would find it pretty weird to know I pay money to some guy in Estonia to run a server so I can look at memes of beans as a Spezistan refugee.
I like setting them off at my own pace. Lighting the fuse and running away is half the fun.
What I don’t get is people who only buy a few 100+ shell batteries. At that point you’re better off gong to a show.
When I was 12 maybe…
I don’t like them one bit. Pollute the environment, make unnecessary noise, and are dangerous.
Don’t forget about birds and other animals.
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Well that just makes you a piece of shit.
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Let me just blast your ears with deafening sound for mildly inconveniencing me. You do know dogs have way more sensitive hearing than us right? And you do understand that it’s the owners fault for either not training them properly or rather not caring enough for them?
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We’ve had an air quality alert all day and (admittedly I didn’t look one way or another) and I’ve just made my mind up that it’s because of fireworks and not Canada being on fire.
Explosives were fascinating when I was, like, 10 years old. Now, as an adult, they’re just stupid, but we have an ever-growing population of people who derive their sense of self-worth from producing maximally loud, obnoxious, pathetic spectacles (think street-racers, coal-rollers, rap-blasters to name a few), so there you have it. When you’re a nobody and have no attributes that anyone would look up to, well, at least you can force people to pay attention to you and do it on the cheap (important because you’re poor). Boom boom pop pop.
I get this, but even as the op here, I do want to say I’m not saying any of these things you brought up are invalid ways to exist in a shared public space. People who “rap blast” as you say - what about rock or metal? What about country or electronic music? What if I am blasting the theme from Katanari Damacy at the gas station and genuinely enjoying myself?
I question the amusement levels of these explosions. But I have to disagree with some of this other stuff, which is valid in a public space albeit could be considered annoying in a similar way.
I don’t think the genre of music matters in OPs point.
My friend, OP is the one who brought the genre up. I was reminded of this: https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/crime/2016/11/17/michael-dunn-convicted-killing-17-year-old-after-telling-teen-turn-down-rap-music/15732203007/
It was just an example. Playing loud music in public is obnoxious and rude. No matter if you’re playing 50ct or Beethoven
It was just an example, one that came to mind b/c in my low-mid-class residential 'hood in a medium-sized city, I have nearby neighbors who seem to think nothing of blasting rap (it’s always rap for some reason) at a gazillion Db and drenching the entire block in pure noise. All, apparently, because of some sort of “I can do whatever the fuck I want, suck it up” attitude. Now, I personally loathe rap, don’t consider it music at all, but this behavior would be every bit as bad/wrong if they were blasting out symphonic music or trumpet concertos or Coltrane or classic rock or blues or, really, any kind of unnecessary sound that their neighb’s might just not be fans of, or in the mood for. And that includes fireworks noise, which actually is kind of a year-round thing here, just concentrated around calendar events when people can manufacture an excuse to set them off. Stupid riceburner street-racers with, evidently, straight-pipes, actively racing, are also a weekly scourge around here and the cops seem to just look the other way.
What seems to have vanished, in the loud-noises in public sphere, is any kind of common courtesy. I don’t blast my loud “music” in random places where other people are going to be forced to listen to it because that’s just rude - they might have their own tunes on, hate my fave genres, or simply want some peace - I don’t automatically expect that they’re going to be totally down with my noisemaking just because I have the ability to make it. If I pull up to someone with their windows down at at red light and I’ve got some loud tunes on, I turn them down. Basic civility. But now the attitude seems to be “fuck you, I’ll do whatever I want and you’d better like it and if not, tough shit, try to stop me.”
Spot on, mate! I can’t stand them. Ultranationalism, harmful to the environment, poor air quality and noise pollution. Not good for the animals or anything really, a huge waste.
And nowadays, more and more just another “let’s own the Libs” childish pedantic fucking bully-mindset.
I fully agree! Add those people yelling at their mobile phone set to speaker while in public.
people yelling at their mobile phone set to speaker while in public
After rejoining a gym recently (had been away ~5yrs) I was astonished to find people doing this right there in the weight room. Blabbing away, having personal conversations at high volume mere feet from all the other paying customers who are just trying to concentrate on their workouts. I’d seen the signs on the wall asking people NOT to do this and take their phone conversations elsewhere, but of course those rules are for OTHER people, not for precious entitled blabbermouths.
A number of people said “They were when I was young, but not anymore,” and that was my reaction too. I absolutely loved playing with firecrackers or making little explosives when I was a teen, so the 4th was really fun for me.
It’s hard to say why I don’t feel the same way now, but I think part of it is just that I’ve seen it and done it over enough years that it’s boring now. The other part is that, like most kids, I didn’t think about the broader impact of things as much as I do now. Having known people with PTSD from military service, and having pets that are absolutely terrified of the explosions, it’s hard to enjoy them now without thinking of the suffering. Also, I live in parched Southern California close to the hills, so the people lighting giant fireworks in their back yards around me is infuriating.
If don’t give a shit about PTSD for people who voluntarily signed up for military service. I’ts a bummer for the dogs though.
That’s… a strange point of view. Do you also not give a shit about the problems of other people who get injured at work? Like firefighters who get burned?
No, it’s quite specific to the military.
Yeah they are tbh.
Yes they are
Understandable, have a good night.
I love this respectul Lemmy vibe
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Yeah, nah
I assume you removed your post. Thanks. Let’s keep the tone lemmy.
(Yes, I am trying “streets ahead” the word “lemmy” as an adjective for polite/non-resdit-like discussions!)
it’s not, also it kills a lot of animals
Bonus, my cat is staying under the bed, so I know where to find him.
I basically spent my entire day preparing to get my puppy through his first 4th of July and he’s legit sound asleep right now cos he dgaf.
For what other communities to post this in, maybe [email protected]. But this one is pretty good
You would mean https://lemmy.world/c/nostupidquestions but yeah. Thanks!
The way they posted it will open that community on everyone’s local instance.
Yes, fireworks are fun.
