• Iron Lynx
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    411 year ago

    I was at a party a few weeks ago and when we needed to use a web browser, one of the first things that happened was one of the attendees taking the computer to install FireFox.

    • Cris
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      31 year ago

      I’ve not heard of orion before, what do you like better about it? Is it WebKit based?

      • Skye
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        21 year ago

        Hi, not the Original Commenter but an occasional user of Orion.

        It is webkit based but has full compatibility for all Firefox and Chrome extensions. Plus in my experience it’s really fast at loading stuff - noticeably so.

        It’s being developed by the people behind the Kagi search engine which is also really good

        • Flying SquidM
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          21 year ago

          It is webkit based

          So not better than Firefox and OP is just silly.

          • Cris
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            11 year ago

            Why would being WebKit based make it bad? Because it supports the web engine duopoly?

            • Flying SquidM
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              11 year ago

              On an iPhone in specific it means there’s no real difference between them beyond mostly the cosmetic. It’s not just that it’s WebKit, it’s that it’s WebKit that’s also behind Apple’s walled garden.

              Firefox that doesn’t render with gecko isn’t really Firefox, is it? I mean I get that Mozilla endorses the app, but it’s not the same Firefox as it would be almost anywhere else.

              • Skye
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                21 year ago

                As I mentioned above, it’s quite snappier than safari and even Firefox. It’s clear that they’ve worked on performance.

                • Flying SquidM
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                  11 year ago

                  That’s not my point. My point is that all iOS browsers are essentially the same browser because they’re forced to be.

  • KillingTimeItself
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    41 year ago

    i just want a web browser that doesn’t cause me to have strokes, and doesn’t give me internet aids.

    How fucking hard is it to write a piece of software jesus fucking christ.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      111 year ago

      Motherfucker have you tried looking at a browser implementation? It might just be the single most complex piece of software on the planet today. It’s basically an OS, JS environment and GUI toolkit in one

      • KillingTimeItself
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        21 year ago

        thats exactly the problem.

        That would make sense as to why it’s such a dogshit piece of software, wouldnt it? That’s why windows is bad after all.

        Also fun fact. I recently had a spat with firefox taking like 30s to startup, apparently for SOME fucking reason, someone thought a 25s timeout would be sane in the event that discord doesn’t detect xdg-desktop-settings or whatever the specific was.

  • @[email protected]
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    121 year ago

    Just create more ram out of thin air with zram. I’ve got 60gb now. 30 something actual ram (some of my 32gb gets allocated for the APU) and the same amount as zram. I can run 2 chrome instances now!

  • Nanomerce
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    281 year ago

    Ngl, I’ve never had issues with either for ram. my experience with Firefox is mostly the sameas chrome with ram usage. The main reason Im on Firefox is cause it’s been a whole lot more stable for me than chrome.

    • Flying SquidM
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      41 year ago

      I switched from Chrome to Firefox on my Mac desktop and the memory usage was cut in half at least. I only use it on my Linux notebook, so I have no idea about the memory usage difference there, but there was an unquestionable difference on the Mac. It has 16 gb of ram and is from 7 years ago, so it was before the M-chips and their ram hunger and still gave me memory warnings.

      Now I never have memory issues on it. All it took was switching to Firefox.

      So it definitely makes a difference on some systems.

    • mstrk
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      51 year ago

      It’s about the amount of tabs you keep open. Every site will take a piece of RAM and a max of 5Gb per tab if not mistaken.

      I think GChrome has a feature now where it tries to “kill” the tabs you’re not using to mitigate this issue but it’s opt in.

    • @[email protected]
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      61 year ago

      If the majority of ram isn’t being utilized you either have a problem or have entirely to much ram. I’m not saying programs can’t be memory hogs, but they should utilize what resources are there to perform better. It would be like turning on a flash light, using all of the power and then covering half the bulb while trying to cross a field in the dark. The CPU and GPU use more electricity when running at higher percentages, ram is negligible for the most part.

      • @[email protected]
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        161 year ago

        i always hear this but it’s obviously not true lol, if i ever see my ram reach max usage the computer shits itself and i’ll likely have to restart it because most things become utterly frozen

        full RAM utilization is patently not something you want.

            • @[email protected]
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              11 year ago

              Everyone uses multiple programs. Who said you’d only have one program open?

              Using 40% for one of your most important programs seems totally reasonable to me.

              • Mossy Feathers (She/They)
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                11 year ago

                In my personal experience chrome rarely gives up ram and will starve programs that need it more. While that works if you’re only running chrome, if you’re using it in the background while doing something else then you can find important programs running out of memory. The result is that you have to close and reopen chrome.

                Granted, I haven’t used chrome or a chromium-based browser in a very long time, so chrome might have gotten better at giving up memory when other programs need it. However, if I’m playing a game, doing rendering, working in a game engine, etc, then usually I have a browser open in the background with YouTube or Twitch and/or programming/visual references. I don’t need or want a browser consuming as much memory as it can, just enough for it to play videos, show me reference images or tell me how to program something. It absolutely doesn’t need +8gb of ram to do that (I saw it hit 16gb once, which was when I switched to Firefox; 16gb is ridiculous no matter how many tabs you have open).