i just want a web browser that doesn’t cause me to have strokes, and doesn’t give me internet aids.
How fucking hard is it to write a piece of software jesus fucking christ.
Motherfucker have you tried looking at a browser implementation? It might just be the single most complex piece of software on the planet today. It’s basically an OS, JS environment and GUI toolkit in one
thats exactly the problem.
That would make sense as to why it’s such a dogshit piece of software, wouldnt it? That’s why windows is bad after all.
Also fun fact. I recently had a spat with firefox taking like 30s to startup, apparently for SOME fucking reason, someone thought a 25s timeout would be sane in the event that discord doesn’t detect xdg-desktop-settings or whatever the specific was.
There already getting railed by google
Hey, I don’t kinkshame
What if kinkshaming is a kink?
That is something I have personal experience with, but I don’t partake in
where?
I was at a party a few weeks ago and when we needed to use a web browser, one of the first things that happened was one of the attendees taking the computer to install FireFox.
Good
Heathens get one chance to repent
My favorite part of Firefox is Ublock Origin.
Which is unavailable on Chrome?..
If it still works, I believe it has been neutered
It works 100% still as far as I can tell (my parents use Chrome with BO)
Till June, when Google starts dropping support for manifest V2 and you’ll have to use uBO lite.
I still firmly believe there is at least one sane engineer there who’ll discourage this, knowing this will drive the last few tech-savvy users and their family members and close friends away and I will die on this hill
Does it work flawlessly on Android, iOS, and desktop? I’m really asking, because I ditched Chrome when it was less shitty than it currently is…
All iOS browsers have to use Webkit (or did last time I checked). So there’s not much of a point of running Firefox on iOS. It’s basically the same browser no matter what browser it says it is.
Isn’t the EU in the process of killing that Webkit-necessity?
It is, but Apple being Apple, they are going all malicious compliance and will break evening else for non-Safari browsers lol
Also this only applies in EU. To use 3rd party apps stores you won’t be able to leave the EU for more than 30 days at a time as well
The Orion browser for iOS is capable of using Firefox and Chrome extensions, although support can be a little spotty. Ublock works quite well though.
mobile Kiwi browser supports desktop chrome extension but has only android version
Google is in the process of undermining the effectiveness of uBlock Origin and other adblockers on Chrome and other Chromium browsers. I believe that change comes into effect this year.
But even before those changes were announced, uBlock Origin’s creator and main dev has stated that uBO is most capable on Firefox.
Mine is the tail plug, but UO is a strong second.
Does the plug get sent to you automatically or do you have to register somewhere?
I was browsing for plug-ins and extensions and after I installed a bunch, it just appeared.
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people don’t complain to get solutions, they complain so everyone knows how miserable they are
Sympathy for the devil.
and to shame people into making a solution, hopefully.
Or at least that’s what we tell ourselves. Because it makes us feel better.
My Firefox is sitting happy eating about 30GB of RAM right now…
So you have 64gb total?
Maybe just 32 GB?
How many tabs do you have open?
Yes.
Orion > Firefox.
I’ve not heard of orion before, what do you like better about it? Is it WebKit based?
Hi, not the Original Commenter but an occasional user of Orion.
It is webkit based but has full compatibility for all Firefox and Chrome extensions. Plus in my experience it’s really fast at loading stuff - noticeably so.
It’s being developed by the people behind the Kagi search engine which is also really good
It is webkit based
So not better than Firefox and OP is just silly.
Why would being WebKit based make it bad? Because it supports the web engine duopoly?
On an iPhone in specific it means there’s no real difference between them beyond mostly the cosmetic. It’s not just that it’s WebKit, it’s that it’s WebKit that’s also behind Apple’s walled garden.
Firefox that doesn’t render with gecko isn’t really Firefox, is it? I mean I get that Mozilla endorses the app, but it’s not the same Firefox as it would be almost anywhere else.
As I mentioned above, it’s quite snappier than safari and even Firefox. It’s clear that they’ve worked on performance.
That’s not my point. My point is that all iOS browsers are essentially the same browser because they’re forced to be.
brave doesn’t eat ram like that, not unless you have a lot going on at once.
it’s chromium
also they have done some shady stuff in the past and the ceo is a homophobealso they have done some shady stuff in the past and the ceo is a hardcore homophobe
It’s a boy-who-cried-wolf situation. Too many false homophobia accusations have gone around for be to believe any of them anymore.
I put in a tailplug and put on fox ears every time I use Firefox.
“I’m so used to getting fucked by Chrome and Edge that I just feel like something’s missing if I don’t.”
I actually got kicked out of school because I wouldn’t use internet explorer, but Firefox is still the best option. Always was. Even if you need a special chair.
Please elaborate, sounds like a crazy story.
Well, it was high school, and they didn’t like my tail plug. Kept calling it ‘inappropriate’. I kept laying out my arguments for why chrome and IE are trash, but they just could not tolerate open source, I guess.
They should, might be in a better mood then…
I’m all for people using Firefox instead of Chrome, but RAM being used up shouldn’t be a complaint unless something else needs that RAM. If it’s there, it should be considered usable.
hot take lol
Yep, I didn’t buy that RAM to sit being unused.
It’s specifically about the efficiency of the usage. If it’s not used effectively, then it really is a waste.
And we all know how efficient the Web is nowadays…
Why could ram usage be a waste? I thought only the allocation is the performance heavy part, allocated ram does not cost extra performance.
I’m referring to the philosophy behind the usage of said allocated ram.
If you allocate 5 cookie jars to store 1 cookie in each jar, then that’s not good.
If you store 2 cookies per jar, that’s better already, but still kind of crap.
If the websites keep putting rocks in those jars, then you’ll obviously run rampant with usage. (Read: https://tonsky.me/blog/js-bloat/ )
The goal is to store as many cookies in least amount of jars. You might crumble them down and reconstruct them later (compression and/or clever code) but that could take more brain (processing) power (of which we kinda have, especially on the desktop).
As you’ve said, it’s often a tradeoff between processing power and memory usage and depending on the application, you can configure things the way you need them (at least when you’re coding it).
Ok, that makes sense, thank you.
“Should” is doing a lot of heavy lifting
If it did a good job freeing it up when needed then sure, but it doesn’t.
I will never not be upset at people who don’t realize how ram works
I’d say it’s more the unwillingness to switch from shitty Chrome as if it was a bad thing to do.
Chromium browsers have a lot of issues, and so does firefox, but ram usage is not one of chromes weaknesses, Chromium regularly preforms better for me then firefox does under low ram scenarios, Both in terms of chrome being responsive, and in terms of chrome not crippling everything else around it.
This is correct. Ive helped a bunch of people (in Linux) complaining that chrome was eating all their ram when in fact it wasn’t. Memory management is hard and it’s easy to look at the wrong indicators.
It does love its ram but not as much as people think.
Both have anime profile pictures so both are losers
just use ungoogled chromium
Edit: what the fuck?! I did not expect this much hate for recommending an open source, privacy preserving, technologically superior browser. You guys need to touch grass.
“just buy a bmw and hack the heated seats into a switch that you physically installed into the dash” this u right now
Welcome to Lemmy. You may only advocate for Firefox.
