• @[email protected]
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    1501 year ago

    Came here to recommend nuking it with Linux to get a much slicker experience but I see everyone else had the same idea.

    Also gtf off chrome.

  • @[email protected]
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    311 year ago

    most websites just check the browser useragent, and if you spoof the useragent, it works. most websites are blocking it artifically even if the website works fine with your browser. so i think it’s worth a shot if there are chrome plugins who can spoof the browser useragent.

    • @[email protected]
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      131 year ago

      Usually they’re building the website with browserlist and polyfills, and they specify how old a browser they wish to support, usually by analysing percentages of public usage, or they allow types only supported in newer browsers. Meaning if they use a feature only available in newer browsers, then it won’t be automatically backported to support older browsers.

      But that’s only if they actually use those features, they’re just available to them. And it’ll only break in those places they do use them, which could be quite little of the site.

      So often it’s just “we can’t guarantee it’ll work in your old browser and enough of our users use newer browsers that we’ll block you and not care”.

      • @[email protected]
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        51 year ago

        yupp, and i hate that. i use a firefox version that don’t supports private fields, and because a common js lib uses them a lot of websites suddenly stopped working for me just because of this bs. instead of just using a normal variable they use private fields and kill a ton of older browsers by doing so. and most website owners don’t care so asking them just leads to them saying “just upgrade bro”.

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          11 year ago

          private fields

          Man, javascript is starting to turn into java, isn’t it? They added encapsulation. What else they’re going to add?

        • @[email protected]
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          51 year ago

          Why? I feel like a browser is something you’d definitely want to keep up to date for security reasons if given the option.

            • @[email protected]
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              41 year ago

              are implementing more and more forced features you can’t disable

              Not even through about:config?

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                nope, not even with about:config.

                usually it starts with “we let you disable it still with about:config”, but then in later versions they kill it off so the variables don’t do anything anymore. then they remove it completly in even later versions.

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      Firefox won’t for much longer. Or at least not without significant spyware installed. I’m hoping it gets forked before the new CEO can do too much damage. Sucks that it will split the community with such a small user base already. But I guess that’s the point.

    • @[email protected]
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      41 year ago

      I use this bios on CN62 Chromeboxes as an alternative to a Raspberry Pi; it’s faster, can be found cheaper, is available widely on ebay cheap, has proper NVME ports, and has an X86 processor. They make great little reverse proxies, etc.

    • Lemmy
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      11 year ago

      I’m pretty sure two gru_bob and gru_kevin have Libreboot support. I forget the name of the exact laptops, it should be in their documentation

    • thanevim
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      Running xfce4 Fedora brilliantly on an old Dell Chromebook thanks to this, fully recommended!!

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    You mean there’s not still a team of developers working full time to make sure your 8 year old hardware is still getting software/security parity? Color me shocked. Shocked I say! They should support your hardware for free forever! How dare they advance in such a way that it’s not possible for my 8 year old hardware to run the exact same as modern hardware that’s been updated and iterated hundreds of times since then.

    • kadu
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      351 year ago

      Today I’ll update my Chrome version in my 2013 media box desktop running Debian in honour of your terribly written comment!

    • @[email protected]
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      221 year ago

      I have 11 years old phone that still gets updates. For free. And all my computers will have updates for ever. For free.

        • kadu
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          141 year ago

          You’d be surprised at what the custom ROM communities manage to achieve. The Galaxy S3 (not 23, I really mean S3) can run Android 11 or 12.

          • @[email protected]
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            11 year ago

            It’s no surprise, if the hardware can take it then why not? It should be the default. Maybe the current EU can tackle all this built-in obsolescence from Big Tech.

            The real surprise is people devoting their free time in maintaining those communities, kudos to them. Eventually my current phone will get Lineage.

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            oh dope. I’m on graphene run, so I think that gives me 7 years, but 11 is impressive. any idea how long they plan on supporting it? also, is that your daily? I feel like a phone that old would be quite slow by now.

            • @[email protected]
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              21 year ago

              My daily is Pixel 7a with GrapheneOS. Galaxy S4 is my mom’s old old old phone. I have no idea how. On lineageos wiki it says that this device is not maintained anymore, but a month ago I got a system update. It’s on Linegae 18.

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      11 year ago

      Google can choose to not update the operating system but I don’t see why the browser is left behind.

      Google supported chrome on windows 7 longer than Microsoft itself, they can’t do it on their own Linux distro?

  • @[email protected]
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    341 year ago

    I’ve got this huge fancy samsung tablet from 2015. It’s made to be like a table top display. Has a mount on the back to keep it standing up.

    It can’t really do anything now. The android version on it stopped being supported by anything. No youtube or Netflix or nothing. There was a bit of homebrew effort to get root and a newer version of android on them about 4 years ago, but it kind of fizzled out. Now it went from a great portable streaming mini TV (what I used it for, anyhow) to e waste.

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        Nope. It’s essentially a samsung tablet with about 2014 samsung tablet specs, only way larger screen. They were made more for retail stores to have set up for customers than for consumer sales, almost. Basically, they missed their mark, so not many were sold. Imagine back in 2015. A nexus tablet was like $100. These things were $600. Galaxy View 18.4" tablet.

        There was a custom that I had found from like 4 years ago, but when the project stopped it was still left with a lot of issues/bugs.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 year ago

          Praise be to our lord and savior the UEFI Forum, that we might not all meet such a dismal fate.

    • @[email protected]
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      131 year ago

      Try alternative apps such as NewPipe for YT, they might still run on your outdated android.

      Otherwise, there’s always LineageOS and other custom ROMs

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    Install Linux and have updates for the Rest of your life. And more performance.

    Edit: typo

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        Big tech wins yet again. Soon you’ll need at least a Pentium 1 to run the Linux kernel.

        • @[email protected]
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          41 year ago

          In practice, you tend to need something not too out of date. Just about any distro ships with internationalization support, and the fact is that it takes a lot of RAM to do that. A Pentium 1 may not support enough.

          I did an install on a Pentium II a few years ago. I used Debian 2.2. Since I had used it back in the day, it seemed easier than finding something more modern that would work.

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            In reality, only some Pentium 1 compatible motherboards can support enough ram for you to actually run Linux on a Pentium 1. Even if you don’t run into ram problems, you’ll run into bios related problems. I would suggest anyone trying this in 2024 to not even attempt it unless you can get a socket 7, and preferably a later socket 7 motherboard at that. The closest thing I can come up with to a reason not to drop support for 486 (the cpu before the Pentium 1) is that a 486 is a lot more possible to put on a custom pcb than a Pentium 1. Some of the more basic arm cpus aren’t even as powerful as an upper tier 486 (but better arm cpus aren’t that hard for hobbyists to get). Anyone die-hard enough to want to try to run Linux on a fully custom made computer like that would have better results using an arm or risc-V chip instead.

            I am curious why they’re dropping support for 486 but not Pentium 1, pentium 2 and anything not capable of SSE1 or later. mmx isn’t even that good but I guess gcc does technically support it.

            I wonder if they’re going to drop 486 support in gcc as well. It can still compile for 386. You have to seriously strip down the kernel to run Linux on anything that old. Maybe 486 users (all 2 of them) should switch to Temple OS.

          • @[email protected]
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            31 year ago

            You may find this interesting:

            Ubuntu is nearly 20 years old so we wanted to see how the first versions compare with the upcoming LTS. Unfortunately installing Warty turned out to much harder than we thought it would be.

    • @[email protected]
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      I have a Chromebook and it’s ridiculous how difficult they made it to install another OS.

      I eventually did, but I needed to get something to flash a third party boatloader and at first I was told my laptop was not supported.

      But getting an actual Linux distro has been so much better than ChomeOS.

      • "no" banana
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        Back when I had a Chromebook I actually had to open it up and remove a screw to be able to do it.

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              No Cap, I used to have an old HP Pavillion where the case had to be pried apart for servicing and there was a screw on the Battery connector that would keep the computer from starting unless it was put back after battery removal. They work fine without batteries, but not without the screw. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

        • @[email protected]
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          171 year ago

          The new chromebooks need special cables to unlock, either you have the skills and supplies to build a cable and adapter board or you buy a cable from a random company that is rarely in stock

      • ☂️-
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        i hate that this is now the future of computing

      • @[email protected]
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        I didn’t think it too hard but it ended up being kind of fruitless, those things have almost no harddeive and I mostly did it to fuck around with Linux. Chromebooks, at least that one, had something like 16gbs and equally weak CPU to match (granted it might have changed since then but woof.)

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          Same, I did this back in college because my Windows laptop shit out and I couldn’t afford another proper computer. I ended up duct taping an external drive to the back.

        • @[email protected]
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          131 year ago

          The whole point of a chrome book is to push you to use Google’s online services. I think you are still better off if you can do that with Linux running the machine.

      • KillingTimeItself
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        thankfully, once you get a proper UEFI bios on it, it’s free, forever.

        But yeah, i agree, total bullshit how much work they put into not using UEFI from the get go lmao.

    • @[email protected]
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      71 year ago

      I don’t usually like all the Linux posts on Lemmy, but this is 100% the correct answer here. The computer will likely run a lot better if you do everything right!

      • @[email protected]
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        551 year ago

        It’s a Chromebook. That’s just the real answer to OP’s issue regardless of where they ask about it.

        • @[email protected]
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          151 year ago

          Right. If it’s not getting updates, then it’s only a matter of time before it has a critical security vulnerability. If not Linux, then what? Will GNU Hurd run on it?

  • voxel
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    there crappy things are basically made to be thrown away, they’re not even supposed to outlive their software support range.

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    It is not a good idea to use EOL software. It really sucks but you are putting yourself at risk. The only option is to find third party software that is supported.

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      Install Mr. Chromebox and Linux and you’re good to go

  • Ross
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    Not trying to be the fifth dentist here, but at some point all devices reach the end of life. While I’m sure it’s possible for you to install Chrome OS Flex, or some other kind of Linux, at some point isn’t it just time to buy a new computer?

    • @[email protected]
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      It depends really. If you need to use old software or hardware, then no. I have some automotive tools that don’t need the greatest PC to run and I’d rather not mess up my installation of the software they need to work, so I have an ancient Thinkpad with windows 8 on it that I can boot up and use for diagnostics. I just maxed out the ram and put in an SSD so it runs halfway decent.

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      Until George R.R. Martin gives up his DOS computer, then there’s never an excuse to upgrade so long as the machine you use can perform the actions you ask of it!

      • @[email protected]
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        Sure, but by making that decision George also had to accept he can’t install the latest version of Chrome. Maybe George is ok with that, but OP isn’t.

      • @[email protected]
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        Ok, but the only action George needs to perform on it is to not write a book. I don’t even need a computer to do that.