As we all know, Ravio has been removed from the recommended multi-factor authentication apps for iOS on PrivacyGuides.
As I want to export all my TOTP codes out of Ravio ASAP, what apps are you migrating towards? I know a few were mentioned such as:
• Tofu • Ente • 2FAS • FreeOTP • Bitwarden TOTP + Yubikey
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Recommending iCloud keychain in a privacy forum??
It’s actually pretty good security-wise, the main issue is that it completely locks you into the Apple ecosystem, while other 2FA apps and password managers are all cross-platform.
Good security-wise, maybe. But who protects you from Apple? They have access to everything they so conveniently sync for you for free. That is neither secure nor private. The same goes for Google. People don’t understand how much of your stuff they have access to.
Apple Keychain OTP
I‘m using Google Authenticator, but so far nobody else here seems to, am I doing it wrong??
Considering googles track record with privacy I would hesitate to use it
I was going to ask the same question since I’m in the same boat.
So I’m not on iOS but… the websites I need to use for various work things all require that you use a specific authenticator. But they all choose a different random one. It drives me insane. I have 4 different apps. Google Authenticator, Authy, Duo Mobile, and Onelogin Protect. I pray I change jobs before I get a new phone.
I realize there are exceptions to this, and you might fall into that category, but…
Most of the time when websites say they require a particular app, they actually don’t. Like if a website says to use Google Authenticator, you can actually use any TOTP app. There is even a workaround for using Steam’s TOTP without their app.
Don’t be scared to just try importing the QR or text based code into another app when you are signing up for a service. A functioning website won’t let you progress to the next screen without having the proper code in your app.
Oh that’s interesting. I know for my work, it says to use Google Authenticator, but I am still able to sign up with any app of my choice.
I’ve been using 1Password for years and love it. It’s multi-device support was one of the reasons I started using it, and now have a family subscription to share some things with my wife.
I rely on TOTP a lot for my IT job. With 1Password it’s easy to display them on my Apple Watch so I don’t need to keep opening the app on my phone or laptop.
Edit: After digging into 2FAS, I think it is now my top choice. Seems like more of a drop in replacement for Raivo. https://2fas.com/
My second choice is (as of this edit) Owky. I’ve not seen anyone talking about it, but it’s FOSS and has the ability to export your TOTP codes.
Im a little worried about it not being maintained though, since it’s a single developer.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/owky-two-factor-authenticator/id1602245257
Other options I’ve considered:
Tofu Authenticator. Unfortunately it’s basic though and lacks the ability to export.
ente Authenticator. Account required, and I’m a little undecided on the company. Might be a serious option though.
I’m currently enjoying ProtonPass’ built-in 2FA. You gotta be on a paid plan, however, but it’s worth it imo.
Where are you keeping the 2FA code for your proton account? (Supposing you have it set up)
I keep that one in my iCloud keychain just out of convenience
I use Bitwarden for everything, including my totp codes. I should probably use a separate app solely for Bitwarden’s totp code, but the danger of losing it all gives me such a rush!
You can write down your Bitwarden 2FA recovery codes and keep multiple copies of them in safe and private places
What happened to Raivo?
They got bought out by Mobime.
The built in password manager and keychain can handle OTP since a few versions back.
I am undecided btw 2FAS and Ente. 2FAS has an excellent UI, but there is no desktop app. Ente requires an account, but it’s not a problem considering that everything is E2EE and it’s a company with good reputation.
I’m currently in the process of switching to 2fas. It seemed the best available alternative for me.
The password manager for iphone or ios has mfa built in - seems to work ok. Its a bit annoying if you use a desktop thats not mac though and have to search for the mfa code among the millions of passwords.
iCloud Keychain is available as a chrome extension now, works on windows too. Hopefully Firefox is in the works
True but like someone else mentioned here it’s not the best having all eggs in the same basket. If for eggsample 🙂 the apple account gets compromised it’s going to be hard.
Check this video from techlore.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=25wG173PL3U
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.
I just use Authy
I used to use them a while back but now I use Aegis. I prefer my 2fa offline and disconnected from the internet. I still keep my backups saved in safe spaces though. It served me well to get off of Authy too because last year, they got compromised.
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I prefer my 2fa offline and disconnected from the internet.
That’s great until you lose your phone or something…
Well, that’s what backups are for. I sync my Aegis backups between phone, tablet and PC via syncthing. It’s convenient to have authy handle bwckups for me, but if I use 2fa I don’t want to water down its usefulness right away.
Yeah I tried that. Couldn’t figure it out.
I switched to 2FAS but im also looking into Proton Pass since im subscriber (password manager + 2FA) but i dont want to put all my eggs in one basket. Atm im using proton pass for unimportant stuff.
