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Reading ab*sive is more traumatic
I d*n't kn*w wh*t y*u're t*lk*ng abo*t*** *** * ***** cunt *** ****!
Why the hell did you censor abuse?
Also “Antisocial” does not mean introverted. It means to react violently to social situations.
Be honest with yourself, but don’t glorify victimhood. Being a victim fucking sucks. It’s not something to aspire to. I have my issues, but I know I’m not a victim.
I’ve been blessed not to have to deal with abuse the way others have. I don’t want to cheapen what they went through by classifying something unpleasant I went through in personal interactions as actual abuse or trauma.
It’s so difficult to try and have this nuanced take with people. I’m NOT trivializing or saying you should "just suck it up " I’m suggesting that you treat mental illness like an illness: Seek treatment, follow professional advice, and be honest with yourself and the professionals you’re seeing. If I broke my leg, but refused to get a cast because I felt it was really a problem with my arm, while lying to every doctor I meet about what happened, people would get very sick of my nonsense in short order.
I agree with the other three, but this is wrong about “narcissists”. “Narcissistic Personality Disorder” is a diagnosis, but calling someone a “narcissist” isn’t. That’s just a description of someone’s personality. It’s much older than the diagnosis, going back to the Greek myth of Narcissus. The diagnosis doesn’t get to co-opt the much older usage.
Yeah it’s just the higher stage of selfishness. You can be selfish, egoistic, etc. Then you reach Narcissus level, or worst, the pond/lake level.
Wow that’s exactly what a pond/laker would say
You’re not speaking ancient Greek, mate, you’re speaking English, and your use is informed by the history of the English language. The use of Nar******t in pop culture is largely informed by Christopher Lach’s 1979 book The Culture Of Narcissism, which made the argument that contemporary American culture was normalising clinical NPD. You didn’t learn to call people nar******ts by reading ancient Greek myths, and I know that for a fact because the ancient greeks didn’t go around using the word. To them, it was just some guy’s name. You learned the word from someone who learned the word from someone who learned the word from Lasch’s book, and from the ableist books that came after. Your folk etymology explanation that the pop culture use comes directly from Greek is missing a lot of important and relevant intermediate steps.
Brainiac!
LOL love this mic drop
Yeah, true on both. I mean… I guess I’ve used the terms either way but also understand the differences and appropriate usages of both.
You are correct. The only truly incorrectly defined word in the list is the “pop psychology” form of “trauma”, which looks like it was just made up for the sake of the meme. “Gaslighting” is correct on both sides, but the two in the middle are actually being paired with different forms of the same word, so the definition is inherently different. Also, the definitions on the left are coming from a learner’s dictionary so they come across as stupid next to advanced definitions.
Not really. I’ve seen a lot of people overuse “trauma” that way. I’m biased, as I teach psych, but there really is an almost silly amount of misuse of terms that way. Hell, that Lind of language is misused in online communities all the time, by people trying to punch-up their own actually mundane boring lives to make it sound like they’ve “been through” more than they have.
Tangentially related, “Cultural Appropriation” was a an anthropological/historian term that meant defining and controlling another’s culture. A good example is the English making it illegal for Scots to wear kilts in the 1700s. It is not personally using a hairstyle associated with another group despite what the term sounds like. The people that use that meaning literally culturally appropriated the term from the original group, under the real meaning of the term. People trying to tell spanish speakers that they are “Latinx” is another example of the original meaning.
Err… The phrase “Gaslighting” came from the movie Gaslight.
The idea of being “Triggered” came from Trigger Warnings.
Psychology may have their own understanding of those terms, but I don’t think it has the original usages or widest popularization.
Okay, but didn’t what happen in that movie in line with the actual psychology column?
Look this is an art imitating life imitating art discussion that I don’t think its going to go anywhere, I’m just saying, on the one hand I appreciate the post trying to clarify things for people misusing these terms but on the other hand I don’t think it’s being honest with how they’re being misused.
If someone doesn’t lie to you and pretend it’s not a lie, that can still be the start of Gaslighting and should be called out as quickly as possible so people know they can’t do that.
That’s not a misuse or problem that needs to be corrected just because it’s not exactly what happened in a 1930s movie. Which is by the way still pop-culture not “actual” psychology.
A psychologist didn’t come up with it, an artist/writer did. Science doesn’t get to claim all authority all the time and humanity should be relearning the fact that art and culture DOES produce knowledge.
Posts like this, the dismissal of cultural or “pop” phenomena as less authoritive is part of why we don’t - that’s my problem with it, okay?
Trigger warning came from the psychological term for situations or stimuli that bring on panic attacks or obsessive thoughts.
I disagree with this but not sure if you’re gaslighting me or not 🤔.
Your definitely being gaslight.
Or are you…
Oh god… hold me 🥹
Would have up voted but the lack of citation and pointless censorship pushed it over for me.
- Take a learners dictionary and pair it with an advanced one.
- Pic some controversial words.
- Compare verbs against nouns, nouns against adjectives so the definitions aren’t actually the same but look like they should be.
- Completely make up the last “simple” definition so it seems like you are making some profound point that’s actually just a dumb comment.
- Call the side with the stupid comment you made up “pop psychology” so people can see in plain sight what gaslighting actually looks like.
Ab*sive
It’s the wojack/Chad meme of “your side is represented as crying wojack, my side is represented with chiseled Chad version, therefore I win”
And the “umm akshyully this is what gaslighting REALLY is” just makes me think someone made this whole thing just to try and prove to another person they aren’t a gaslighting narcissist who doesn’t believe someone has ptsd and has lasting issues stemming from it.
Besides, There doesn’t have to be some elaborate ongoing scheme for something to be gaslighting.
Is this coolguide gaslighting the definition of “gaslighting”?
There doesn’t have to be some elaborate ongoing scheme for something to be gaslighting.
100% agree.
Would have up voted but the lack of citation and pointless censorship pushed it over for me.
Well, at least people were saved from terrible tra*ma by cl*verly h*ding the “u” in “ab*sive”. Can’t tell that’s what it says at all…
Oh this word might hurt someone, lets skewer it so not only does it bring all the focus to the word itself, but forces people to think about the word specifically and how big of a deal it should be!
Whoever did this really needs a smack upside the head
Trigger warning: the word tra*ma
I like to think of myself as pretty supportive, but is there really any evidence that specifically reading the word “trauma” is traumatic? And if so, is the removal of the “U” really a solution to that?
Because it seems like asterixing one letter is more of a performative measure to signify ones support for the overall cause rather than an actually means to reduce suffering.
How close can the “U” be before it starts to upset someone?
“Tra u ma”
Uuuuuuuuuuuuu Tra ma Uuuuuuuuuuuuuu
I don’t believe that someone who is affected by the word “trauma” would view the above examples with a complete non-reaction because the U is vaguely obfuscated.
Like, we can agree that the asterix is just a display of consideration to someone, rather than an actually effective measure, right?
It’s actually counterproductive! People who want to screen stuff about abuse from their internet experience can set up filters. Those filters are broken when you censor the relevant words!
Yeah but does that matter if using the asterisk helps those not the victim of abuse feel better about their day? They are the real victims 🤣
If the word triggers some symptom, then why would that same word, “hidden” by a trick that wouldn’t faze a six-year-old, be any less harmful?
It wouldn’t. You may want to reread my comment.
::: spoiler
Trauma
:::
I see you don’t feel the need to double-censor “w”
An alternative explanation is that sites like TikT*k are trying to please advertisers by reducing coverage of videos that talk about sensitive topics like trauma, suicide, and death, and that behaviour has been blindly copied by zoomers who are getting their primary internet exposure from Tiktok.
nice try narcissists
