• Jake Farm
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    11 year ago

    Would have up voted but the lack of citation and pointless censorship pushed it over for me.

  • Eggyhead
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    1. Take a learners dictionary and pair it with an advanced one.
    2. Pic some controversial words.
    3. Compare verbs against nouns, nouns against adjectives so the definitions aren’t actually the same but look like they should be.
    4. Completely make up the last “simple” definition so it seems like you are making some profound point that’s actually just a dumb comment.
    5. Call the side with the stupid comment you made up “pop psychology” so people can see in plain sight what gaslighting actually looks like.
    • Transporter Room 3
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      201 year ago

      It’s the wojack/Chad meme of “your side is represented as crying wojack, my side is represented with chiseled Chad version, therefore I win”

      And the “umm akshyully this is what gaslighting REALLY is” just makes me think someone made this whole thing just to try and prove to another person they aren’t a gaslighting narcissist who doesn’t believe someone has ptsd and has lasting issues stemming from it.

      Besides, There doesn’t have to be some elaborate ongoing scheme for something to be gaslighting.

      • Eggyhead
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        There doesn’t have to be some elaborate ongoing scheme for something to be gaslighting.

        100% agree.

      • Rentlar
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        51 year ago

        Is this coolguide gaslighting the definition of “gaslighting”?

  • @owenfromcanada@lemmy.world
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    381 year ago

    According to my licensed psychiatrist, trauma is anything hurtful or harmful that impacts your behavior or patterns of thinking. The clinical term is actually more broad than the general public conception of the word.

    • @funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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      221 year ago

      even in medical terms (not a doctor) getting a tooth pulled or scraping your knee is trauma.

      For all people posture that “the internet overreacts” they also overreact to the so-called overreaction

  • @morganth@discuss.tchncs.de
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    781 year ago

    I agree with the other three, but this is wrong about “narcissists”. “Narcissistic Personality Disorder” is a diagnosis, but calling someone a “narcissist” isn’t. That’s just a description of someone’s personality. It’s much older than the diagnosis, going back to the Greek myth of Narcissus. The diagnosis doesn’t get to co-opt the much older usage.

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      You’re not speaking ancient Greek, mate, you’re speaking English, and your use is informed by the history of the English language. The use of Nar******t in pop culture is largely informed by Christopher Lach’s 1979 book The Culture Of Narcissism, which made the argument that contemporary American culture was normalising clinical NPD. You didn’t learn to call people nar******ts by reading ancient Greek myths, and I know that for a fact because the ancient greeks didn’t go around using the word. To them, it was just some guy’s name. You learned the word from someone who learned the word from someone who learned the word from Lasch’s book, and from the ableist books that came after. Your folk etymology explanation that the pop culture use comes directly from Greek is missing a lot of important and relevant intermediate steps.

    • @topinambour_rex@lemmy.world
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      81 year ago

      Yeah it’s just the higher stage of selfishness. You can be selfish, egoistic, etc. Then you reach Narcissus level, or worst, the pond/lake level.

  • @antidote101@lemmy.world
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    31 year ago

    Err… The phrase “Gaslighting” came from the movie Gaslight.

    The idea of being “Triggered” came from Trigger Warnings.

    Psychology may have their own understanding of those terms, but I don’t think it has the original usages or widest popularization.

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        Look this is an art imitating life imitating art discussion that I don’t think its going to go anywhere, I’m just saying, on the one hand I appreciate the post trying to clarify things for people misusing these terms but on the other hand I don’t think it’s being honest with how they’re being misused.

        If someone doesn’t lie to you and pretend it’s not a lie, that can still be the start of Gaslighting and should be called out as quickly as possible so people know they can’t do that.

        That’s not a misuse or problem that needs to be corrected just because it’s not exactly what happened in a 1930s movie. Which is by the way still pop-culture not “actual” psychology.

        A psychologist didn’t come up with it, an artist/writer did. Science doesn’t get to claim all authority all the time and humanity should be relearning the fact that art and culture DOES produce knowledge.

        Posts like this, the dismissal of cultural or “pop” phenomena as less authoritive is part of why we don’t - that’s my problem with it, okay?

    • Jake Farm
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      21 year ago

      Trigger warning came from the psychological term for situations or stimuli that bring on panic attacks or obsessive thoughts.

  • amio
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    Well, at least people were saved from terrible tra*ma by cl*verly h*ding the “u” in “ab*sive”. Can’t tell that’s what it says at all…

    • @Unforeseen@sh.itjust.works
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      441 year ago

      Oh this word might hurt someone, lets skewer it so not only does it bring all the focus to the word itself, but forces people to think about the word specifically and how big of a deal it should be!

      Whoever did this really needs a smack upside the head

      • @threeduck@aussie.zone
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        171 year ago

        Trigger warning: the word tra*ma

        I like to think of myself as pretty supportive, but is there really any evidence that specifically reading the word “trauma” is traumatic? And if so, is the removal of the “U” really a solution to that?

        Because it seems like asterixing one letter is more of a performative measure to signify ones support for the overall cause rather than an actually means to reduce suffering.

        How close can the “U” be before it starts to upset someone?

        “Tra u ma”

        Uuuuuuuuuuuuu Tra ma Uuuuuuuuuuuuuu

        I don’t believe that someone who is affected by the word “trauma” would view the above examples with a complete non-reaction because the U is vaguely obfuscated.

        Like, we can agree that the asterix is just a display of consideration to someone, rather than an actually effective measure, right?

        • @TotallyHuman@lemmy.ca
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          141 year ago

          It’s actually counterproductive! People who want to screen stuff about abuse from their internet experience can set up filters. Those filters are broken when you censor the relevant words!

          • @Rediphile@lemmy.ca
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            21 year ago

            Yeah but does that matter if using the asterisk helps those not the victim of abuse feel better about their day? They are the real victims 🤣

            • amio
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              If the word triggers some symptom, then why would that same word, “hidden” by a trick that wouldn’t faze a six-year-old, be any less harmful?

    • @jagungal@lemmy.world
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      141 year ago

      An alternative explanation is that sites like TikT*k are trying to please advertisers by reducing coverage of videos that talk about sensitive topics like trauma, suicide, and death, and that behaviour has been blindly copied by zoomers who are getting their primary internet exposure from Tiktok.

  • @banazir@lemmy.ml
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    181 year ago

    Dear Americans: Psychotic doesn’t mean what you think it means. Stop using it please.

  • @LostWon@lemmy.ca
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    151 year ago

    I’d’ve liked to see “schizophrenic,” “antisocial,” and “psychopath” among possible others, but this is indeed pretty cool.

    • Final Remix
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      Schizophrenic pop - hearing voices or seeing people and things that aren’t real. Makes you do crazy stuff sometimes.

      Schizophrenic from my Psych101 lecture - a disorder that includes marked changes in behavior, mood, affect, and perception. Sufferers question reality, may feel persecuted, and experience sensory simulation that has no external cause. Genetic component coupled with trauma (stress-diathesis model), with an extremely high comorbidity of suicide attempts, depression, and self harm.


      Antisocial pop - going against the grain, not wanting to hang out with people, being misanthropic. “Oh jeeze, i’m just so antisocial lately… maybe I’ll party some other time, guys.”

      Antisocial personality disorder 101 - personlality disorder involving behavior that is typically not only interpersonally disruptive, but is often actively working against the benefit of others. Often accompanied by blunted capacity for empathy for others. Strong genetic component, may express after traumatic childhood experience or an abusive upbringing. Interestingly, has a high comorbidity for substance abuse and other potentially self-destructive behaviors. AKA sociopathy. Early.onset, typically pre-adolescence at latest for diagnosis. Otherwise, it’s considered something akin to adolescent outburst, where it’s expected to go away after some time. Early onset prognosis is worse.


      Psychopathy pop - Cletus Cassidy, Michael Myers, Mrs. Voorhees, the Driller Killer, etc. See also “psycho”

      Psychopathy 101 - similar to ASPD above, but not so much the self-destructive behaviors. Couples antisocial behaviors with complete lack of care or remorse for others, along with a superficial charm (refer back to Learning & Behavior, and social psych notes… charm is a skill!) to manipulate others into doing what they want. Often manifests as “conduct disorder” in kids, but diagnosis is difficult, as there is little objective criteria to go on. The very definition of Psychopathy is hard to nail down, given its broad symptom list, overlap with other diagnoses, and disagreement among professionals.

      “Psycho” is often misused, as it actually refers to psychosis, which is a detachment from reality in which the sufferer can’t tell what is and isn’t real. Causes considerable distress and may lead to dangerous or self-injurious behaviors.

      • @LostWon@lemmy.ca
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        51 year ago

        Thanks for taking the time!

        On the pop front, I’ll just point add there was also a widespread misconception for a very long time (mostly in the past now I think, but still out there) that schizophrenia was the same as dissociative identity disorder.