• @[email protected]
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        It’s just fascinating to see how turned off the kids brain is. He’s regurgitating talking points without even understanding what he’s saying.

        He doesn’t want to learn, or question anything in earnest, he wants to defend his faith and lies.

        It’s actually heartbreaking to see what religion does to people.

  • @[email protected]
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    It’s such a weird time in the U.S… Also, it might be a better choice to go to a battleground state.

  • @[email protected]
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    It makes me sad that leftists are leaving Florida. They are turning a purple state into a red one. Every sane person that leaves Florida means the ratio gets tilted more and more into the looneys.

    People need to stay in red states. Voting blue in Colorado isn’t going to do anything

    • @[email protected]
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      I agree with you in a macro sense, but individually it takes a lot of courage and sacrifice and I’m not sure I’d expect that of anyone. Something systematic has to change.

      • @[email protected]
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        I’m going to stay and vote against every single GOP Trumper until the state goes blue

        It will go blue. Just like California was once red. Texas will also go blue.

    • Fugicara
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      Voting blue in specific locations in Colorado will actually do things. If 600 people from FL moved to Boebert’s district and voted blue in 2022 she’d be out of the House. Do that in a couple of districts across the country and Dems would control Congress and be able to actually pass policy again. People can move to blue states and still have an impact; the Presidency isn’t the only thing that matters.

    • @[email protected]
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      I am wrestling about this as a resident of Florida. Both my kids are leaving. My trans son is leaving next week and can’t use a public bathroom on the way out of the state without causing confusion or chancing arrest. The state doesn’t deserve him, Maryland does. As for my husband and I, I just don’t know.

    • iNeedScissors67
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      Yep I’m still in Missouri basically out of spite now. I did move into the city so at least I’m in a blue area now, but fuck em.

    • Hal-5700X
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      Yes. By the looks of it, this place is a echo chamber. Sadly.

      The reason for this is due to the Reddit exodus. All of the r/politics users moved to c/politics.

  • wrath-sedan
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    As someone born and raised in a very red state and soon moving to a very blue state for a job opportunity, I can’t help but say it’s such a relief. While I’m not moving for the political angle, I’m so excited to live somewhere where educational, labor, and reproductive rights aren’t constantly under assault, where I can have basic expectations of sane (but of course not perfect) government.

      • wrath-sedan
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        I’m sorry, I know the feeling. Hope you can find your community wherever you are

  • Hal-5700X
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    It’s sad how we can’t just talk, and always segregating themselves.

  • @[email protected]
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    I have a fantasy where DeSantis and his supporters cause Florida to secede, then all the most die-hard evangelicals, fascists and chuds, the worst the republicans have to offer, all flock there to protect their glorious revolution. Then the rest of us can just wall it off and have healthcare, sane governance, green energy, adult discourse, and all the stuff we’re prevented from having because republicans refuse to support anything unless it allows them to be cruel to someone.

    • @[email protected]
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      I would throw Texas on that cession hope as well. Too many people in power that have negative empathy for anyone that isn’t white, male, rich, and fascist conservative

    • @[email protected]
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      🤔 So why don’t we push for blue states to secede instead of waiting for DeSantis and his cult to do it?

      • Drusas
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        Washington, Oregon, and California are increasingly working together on various topics in a way that makes the region more cohesive. We also largely have very similar cultures, Southern California excluded. I wouldn’t much mind us three being our own country.

      • @[email protected]
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        Because a large group of Northerners (most blue states) tend to associate any secession with the specific secession over slavery in the 1860s, because Texas v. White’s the law of the land, and because the Dems care about rules: They have been bringing policy papers to gunfights since before I was born.

    • @[email protected]
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      You can’t have a fantasy of Florida leaving without also having Texas leave as well.

      You could literally solve pretty much all of America’s problems in one fell swoop by eliminating those 2 states.

      • mara
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        As a progressive Texan who can’t afford to move, that scares the shit out of me.

      • Yarla98
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        With the rising heat in Texas, we can just wait until it becomes hell on Earth, right?!

        • @[email protected]
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          That happened a long time ago, and the GOP has been in power in TX for ages and yet they will still find a way to blame Dems.

    • @[email protected]
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      I picture America uncoupling the Florida train car and being able to toot toot toot along to progress, giving Florida a nice wave on the way.

  • artisanrox
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    Then we get to watch 100% Red states shoot, disease, and work themselves to death. Then we move back in and get their stuff.

    ???

    profit!

  • @[email protected]
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    Blue states don’t give an egg.

    Red states “where you from, and why are you here? Don’t take my water”.

    At least that was last time I visited the Midwest in my own vehicle (but they can’t spot rentals very well, treated me like their kin when I didn’t have California plates and hid my accent as much as possible)

    • @[email protected]
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      What Midwestern state was that? A lot of folks don’t realize that, outside of big cities and their respective suburbs, most of the Midwest is indistinguishable from the deep south.

  • Venutian Spring
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    If I could relocate to a state where my views aren’t swamped by the overwhelming redness of the state, I would in an instant, but sadly it’s not in the cards until retirement.

  • @[email protected]
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    Important data to understand, there are fewer blue states than red states. These actions allow for Republicans to gain far more power in Government as the states elect the President and Congress. Democrats are essentially giving Republicans full control of the Federal Government which will be used to erode all progressive laws in blue states.

  • @[email protected]
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    Mod Note: Remember it is okay to argue your positions but attacks against others in the community violates Rule #3 and the Lemmy.world admins require us to moderate those types of comments. Remember not to make things personal! Other than that debate away!

    • Vyxor
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      But don’t I have to be a republican to like guns, hunting, and outdoorsy stuff?

      • Drusas
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        As a progressive person who likes fishing and doesn’t put up with bigotry, it is very challenging to find fishing buddies.

      • @[email protected]
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        You don’t have to enjoy any of that to move there. If you bring your liberal community with you, you can just keep doing what you enjoy, just in a significantly cheaper state.

    • Monkeyhog
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      Why would we want to live in a shithole state like that?

        • Neato
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          You’d have to bring a whole city. What I’d be losing moving from D.C. to Wyoming is not fixable by bringing a few friends. Museums? Enough population that shows and bands play there regularly?

          Also, who can actually convince friends and family to move themselves across the country to a shithole for politics? Have you done that?

      • Drusas
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        Montana and Wyoming are among the most beautiful places on earth. Not sure why the Dakotas were included…

      • Brawler Yukon
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        The idea is to move there in enough numbers to overwhelm the GOP majority and make the state not be a shithole anymore.

        • Neato
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          Have you done this? A few people suggesting people uproot their lives and ruin their QOL to maybe make a dent that a single GOP law could thwart.

          • Brawler Yukon
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            Never said I have done it or even endorse it, just explaining the concept since OP seemed to not understand the theory behind it.

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          Yeah, it’s hard enough to get blue voters to stay in those red shitholes. Why would any sane person who already lives in a blue state want to move to a red one?

      • upforitbutnotdownforit
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        Isn’t Montana pretty chill lately? My memory was they passed some pretty sensible stuff in the last few months.

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        The cost of living in my “red state” is much lower than most places in “blue states” so I’ll be staying here and enjoying my financial well-being even though I’m not a Trumptard. While I don’t enjoy seeing rednecks everywhere showing off their dumb opinions, I still enjoy having money more than I don’t like that other stuff.

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          I’ve said before, and ill say it again. For myself, I’d rather be poor in a place that respects human rights, instead of rich in a place that shits on them.

          • @[email protected]
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            Sounds mighty principled of you. As for me, I’ve spent enough of my years in poverty already, so now that I’m out of it I’m pretty content with my situation.

            • @[email protected]
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              It’s not principled. Some people just read history. Money only means safety when equal, stable, rights (ownership is a right) are enforced by the state. Not trying to change your mind, just be careful. The people you think are being “principled” may see threats you don’t.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      I think more Democrats moving to swing states like Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania, North Carolina would be higher priority if people are free to move wherever purely based on political reasons.

    • Aniki 🌱🌿
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      You mean lefties. Democrats are neoliberal assholes. And I’m still not moving to some red shithole.

    • Neato
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      Who’s going to give up their entire quality of life to be a small snowflake hoping to make an avalanche? For the politics, it’s a very small contribution. But for the family, it’s huge. You’d be losing job prospects, friends and family, activity availability, local politics, healthcare quality and access, and most importantly: being treated like a person if you aren’t a right-wing cishet white male of means.

      Almost no one’s going to take that trade and they shouldn’t.

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    Conservatives are going to make it legal to outright murder progressives, so there’s definitely safety in living in a blue state