I’m about the Buddy positivity movement…
Meanie-meanie-meanie-meanie~! (Say what?!)
Countdown to the men’s rights activists on lemmy
I mean it didn’t take long for the new atheist types to spawn, or the classic neolibs, so I wouldn’t be surprised if more dookie ends up flooding the site. I’ve definitely seen some MRA shit here already. Any comic or meme underneath like, a woman’s experience being recounted, is sure to be full of it, and if you ever bring up disparities in men’s and women’s sexual assault, that’s also a pretty easy trigger.
What, you think they’re not already here?
I’m just shocked Lemmy hasn’t gone full incel. The TwoX sub some poor hopeful tried to start looked like that meme of Jerrys talking to each other.
I do see the incels rear their heads from time to time.
I had to close out of a thread regarding how FGM was on the rise again in a country in Africa, and I saw users likening it to male circumcision.
There was (presumably) a chick in the comments trying to explain why they’re not one in the same, and she was getting heavily down voted.
Like, yes, I think a lot of Lemmy users are against male circumcision as well (myself included), but it is NOT the same.
My circumcised husband can still orgasm, most women will not be able to at all without clitoral stimulation. It takes the pleasure out of sex for us and makes us simple brood mares.
And I’m always like “Jesus, this line of thinking is prevalent in a lefty place like Lemmy? No fucking wonder things like ‘Fresh&Fit’ are taking the youth by storm.”
Exactly. Circumcision is bad. It’s not a penectomy which is essentially what fgm usually is basically
Also unrelated, but you have a wonderful username
Yes! I at first was trying to look at everything through the lens of “Maybe they just don’t know, maybe this is an education moment.” But the more and more I saw the user attempting to explain the difference between what parts are removed, the more and more people were making fun of them/downvoting them.
Also, thank you! I’m pretty partial to yours as well!
Yeah, like I’ve been opposed to male circumcision my whole life, ever since my mom taught me why she opposed it as a young child in the 90s. But objectively one is bad and the other is obviously worse unless you don’t consider women being unable to experience sexual pleasure to be worse than men having reduced sexual pleasure. Like that’s the difference here.
And like, I get being defensive about opposing male circumcision. I’ve been treated like a radical and a body shamer for it. But when we acknowledge that FGM as it is practiced in locations like Gambia is worse we aren’t saying that male circumcision is fine or that we don’t oppose it. We also shouldn’t make discussions about either about the other.
But yeah Lemmy is way more progressive and feminist than a network like it would’ve been even 10 years ago, but also there’s definitely an mra portion to it and I have to remind myself not to attempt to play chess with the pigeons.
Lemmy has mostly tech savvy people, which are either oldschool incel or LGBT+. There’s some regular people but those two demographics are quite predominant in the tech world, you know, the geeky bullied people trope and all.
In this case I’d say that since regular people side with lgtb usually, the incels are shut down quite fast.
You know, he is a sponge. Why isn’t he huge and blobby?
He’s actually anorexic, but looks healthy because he’s water bloated
I thought he was a kitchen sponge that fell in the ocean and was irradiated to life because they live at the bottom of bikini atoll
That meme is from iFunny.
I don’t know how to feel about that.
if we all weighed 300 lbs there would be less war
Mush brain rage bait. How many of these are bot made?
I wonder how long until lemmy.world goes mask-off full maga. And I wonder how many people will be surprised by it.
Legit hadn’t heard “found the fatty” for years until I came to this site.
I certainly won’t be. It’s looking more and more every day like The_Donald has found a new home. Only they’re just slightly more clever about hiding it.
I’m certainly not seeing that. Could be I’m missing those posts. Could also be some, such as yourself, are expecting to see something and applying a label to explain it.
Sometimes a meme is just a meme.
I’d tell you where to see it and what to look for, but my comment would probably be removed and I’d probably be banned for it. I’m actually surprised that the comment I responded to and my own are still here.
What? Sorry, I couldn’t hear you with your head in the sand.
Sometimes a meme is just a meme.
It’s just a meme bro. It’s just a prank dude. It’s just a joke mate.
Diets don’t work for me. I get hungry before bed time. My body doesn’t tolerate healthy foods. I can’t lose weight because I don’t have time to make it my No1 priority. Losing weight isn’t as simple as “just eating less” , , ,
I love fat people excuses, just admit that you’d rather have an unhealthy body than put the effort and self control in to gaining a healthy one. I’ve heard literally every imaginable excuse except “I’m being force fed!”
Some overweight people pretend that they are happy at their size, but give them a magic button that will turn their body fit and healthy in an instant and see how many of them refuse to press it. They literally can’t not just delay the gratification of excess food now in return for a healthy body that could months or years away.
Whilst I do have sympathy for people with severe medical or mental issues which are a primary cause for their excess weight, these causes are just not applicable for the vast majority of obese people.
As an overweight person, I mostly agree. I just think there are way more people with mental issues than you seem to think.
Not to mention the fact that mental health issues are not handled well by the general public at all. I have seen so much vitriol, dismissal, and skepticism towards anyone who talks about their mental health journey. And in my experience those who will shame me for being overweight will often insinuate that I made up my diagnoses or doctor shopped until I got what I wanted. You really can’t win for losing.
Yeah, I can only agree.
I think anyone addicted to the dopamine rush of food to the point they are an unhealthy weight has a mental issue, same as someone addicted to tobacco, alcohol, or any drug where overuse is unhealthy. It’s incredibly common, it’s just that obesity seems to be the most outwardly visible of those addictions and therefore gets shamed more. I don’t think shaming people into quitting an addiction is an effective strategy, but I also don’t believe affirming their choices with misinformation is favorable either. I think promoting awareness and giving compassionate support are the only real effective strategies, and while I think that’s commonly understood and used by most caring people, that doesn’t seem to be a viewpoint that gets attention on the Internet.
Thank you! Here is so much hate ._.
Finally someone with a point of view that is not incredibly bigoted.
I’d just add that we shouldn’t be tricked by social media. Obese people, by and large, know all too well how being obese is a health condition. Not a lot of people are delusional enough to believe that being obese is worth celebrating, unless they’re on Facetagram.
I don’t really understand why people get so aggro like this and start fat shaming. Like, do you react this way whenever someone smokes cigarettes or drinks alcohol? It’s other people’s bodies. I have honestly never heard anyone say these excuses. I normally see fat people shaming and beating up on themselves. This kind of shit makes them feel like it’s not even okay to be seen because of this shit. Shame is not the answer.
Are there advocates telling people it’s okay and healthy to smoke? Oh, it’s universally shit on with more laws every day on who can smoke?
We really ought to be passing laws to combat obesity, like adding a tax on unhealthy food and making walking and biking more attractive transportation options.
Or you could mind your own business and let those people pay for their additional health care costs. But that’s not going to gain any traction.
You actually bring up an interesting point.
Their health care costs are our healthcare costs. The way insurance works, healthy people subsidize unhealthy people’s healthcare.
Additionally, many hospitals around America are finding that they have to buy specialized, expensive equipment just to transport and handle bariatric folks. In a few locales, they’re charging folks that need this specialized equipment more, but my guess is in many others the cost is once again subsidized by the general population.
That’s a choice. Those costs don’t have to be paid by the public.
ACA prohibits charging people more for insurance based on their weight, so those costs are paid for by the public.
Well, but even in the capitalist hellscape of America where we get blatantly overcharged for healthcare, we still largely use a mix of private and public insurance. Even if I didn’t care about other people or want them to have long and healthy lives for its own sake, I would still want want them to be healthy because my insurance rate is tied to the overall cost of healthcare, which is higher thanks to people being unhealthy. This is an insane way of thinking, and I want everyone to be healthy for the intrinsic benefits, but even if I were to be completely selfish, well, they’re costing me money.
I’m not fan of our healthcare. But if you decouple and simplify the rates it sounds like you still want to force what’s important to you on others and I disagree strongly.
Force would mean throwing them in fatty prison or something ridiculous. People can do what they want, I’m still going to encourage them to get healthy. I have yet to talk to someone who regretted getting their weight under control, even those who used to claim they were fine with being overweight. Think of it like just encouraging exercise independent of weight (which is also good for you, regardless of mass status). I’m not going to force anyone into a lap pool, but I will tell them about how good exercise is for you.
People love to seek flaws in others so that they have to see their own flaws. Or shame others because they can’t fathom that those are happy how they are while the shamers are constrained in their own thinking.
To your hypothetical: no one talks bad about a consumer until they do so at an excessive level.
I’m not shaming all fat people. Just the ones that only make excuses for their weight or pretend that it is healthy.
I couldn’t be prouder or more supportive of an overweight person that decides enough is enough, takes ownership of their body, that they’re going to lose weight and stick with it until they reach their goal.
To use your analogy, I don’t care if someone drinks or smokes, but if they start pretending that it’s not a choice they make it or that it’s healthy, then yh, that’s a problem and I don’t think it’s a bad thing to call them out for that.
…what? People shame others for drinking and smoking all the time. Bad example.
If shame was the answer, nobody would still be obese. There is always an underlying cause, and it isn’t because of a character flaw. Often people use food as a maladaptive way of coping with emotional abuse or neglect, SA, or other things.
It’s another example of people being shallow, self-righteous assholes with a narrow perspective and no willingness to understand or empathize with fellow humans.
Sort of like how some people are anti-trans (usually anti MtF trans). Often these people are so pathetic they have to bash others to feel better about themselves. It’s the same mentality as blaming poor people for not having more money. Or dismissing drug addicts as subhuman garbage rather than fucked up people with a disease.
This kind of shit makes them feel like it’s not even okay to be seen because of this shit.
That’s exactly their intent. They don’t see fat people as equally human. They see them as people who aren’t as good as they are and they would just as soon fat people “go away”.
People born on third base thinking they hit a triple. As if having well adjusted parents and not having a mental disorder and not experiencing CSA and so on was somehow all their own doing and not just the luck of the draw.
Most smokers I know are well aware of how unhealthy their habit is, and would quit if it was easy. They don’t make excuses.
What are you on about? We’ve literally kicked smokers out of public spaces and increased their insurance rates. Alcohol in excess will also get thrown in jail.
It’s not shaming anyone, to point out when something is objectively unhealthy. No-one is going around hounding people for eating an extra slice of pizza or having a drink with dinner.
But,when you are eating a whole pizza a day or are drunk at 8am people should point out that hey maybe that’s not the way to go.
I smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol. I’m an unhealthy addict. Obesity is a disease that shouldn’t be shamed, like any other addiction/ condition. It should definitely be acknowledged/ treated, though.
Obesity is a disease
To imply that every obese person is “food addicted” is actually just another excuse, this might come as a suprise, but skinny people like to eat too! Just as the people at the pub on Friday and Saturday night are not necessarily addicted to alcohol. It’s only really true in a minority of cases.
Not being willing to say, “no I’ve eaten enough, I don’t want dessert” is not proof of an addiction, it’s just proof that you value your health less than a cake.
Do you also blame people with anorexia for not eating enough?
The obese people I know all had childhood abuse, neglect, or CSA or something else going on. Eating is a maladaptive coping mechanism just like how some CSA survivors act out in various ways.
Other people have different life experiences than you.
I don’t blame anyone for the manifestations of any severe medical or mental issues that they might have and I have already stated as such.
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Maybe next time read more than the first sentence before replying.
I was once 300 pounds. If you can’t eat healthy foods just fast. Be hungry. Make it your #1 priority. Yes, some of these comments are mean, but your stance that healthy foods are intolerable seems ridiculous.
The whole meme is just shitty and not funny. Maybe do something about it?
Then downvote it. Everyone’s sense of humor is different.
Lmao brutal
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So many well read doctors on here willing to provide a nuanced picture of the data and issue. Quite impressive.
It’s disturbing how being fatphobic is not a red flag like any other form of bigotry in this comment section.
Is it me overweight? No, they are just fatphobic and bigots.
Just because someone is overweight, doesn’t give you the right to be a cunt to them. Overweight people know they are overweight. No need to make fun of them. It makes you an asshole.
No, its people being overweight AND ignorant that this meme is pointing out. People who are in total denial that losing weight will alleviate many health issues and prevent further complications to ones that can’t actually be helped.
Stop crying over a simple sponge bob meme. This is your life and your health. Do something about it instead of coming up with silly words like fatphobia to make yourself feel better.
Thats what you got out of my comment? That im crying?
“Don’t be a dick and don’t bully people.”
“Lolololol so triggered stop crying lol 😎”
Alright right wing cunt.
Do you need a tissue?
Do you live under a rock… Because you’re in denial, just like so many who are denying they’re morbidly obese. And despite warnings of health problems and risks… The obesity problem keeps rising. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States#%3A~%3Atext%3DThe_obesity_rate_has_steadily%2C17%25_of_children_were_obese.?wprov=sfla1
I’m not saying insulting is the right approach. But clearly this pro-obese movement people have been pushing is just as wrong.
Yes it is harmful to the people themselves. Then help them with kindness. Not by shitting on them and bullying and offending them. A lot of people are overweight because they are depressed. And just because there are a few people that think its healthy, doesn’t mean they all should be made fun of. Talk to those specific people directly instead of being a bully towards everyone.
I don’t see people being hateful like this towards people smoking.
Don’t be a dick. Its not that hard.
it’s disturbing how much people nowadays never did anything harder than getting up their bed in their entire life. Physical activity is a necessity. Its ok to be fat. Its not ok to be an antropomorphic equivalent of a truck.
I mean when people are that size there’s almost always some kind of additional disease at play. It seems crazy to be like “oh this truck sized man who has a metabolic disorder clearly just needs to pull up his bootstraps.”
The meme is bad faith. Its very obvious with a little thought that making fun of fat people isnt going to fix obesity.
Physical training literally cures methabolic disorders, except the genetic ones of course, good thing they are extremely rare. Vast majority of them are behavioral.
Moreover, I wasn’t judgemetall of obesity before I had met few people with weight problems. One of them even had problems with legs because of that. You know what he did about that? Right, not a damn thing, hasn’t even tried. Instead of that he chose only to complain about his poor legs all the time. He never tried to see a doctor, never tried to train. The more you defend this people, the more of them there will be. And of course every one of them claims that they have bad genes or something, except they self-diagnosed it to themselves, because its easier that way. Its always easier to do nothig but to pity yourself, and to look for other people to pity you.
Obese people are not all anthropomorphic trucks. Some of the obese people you caricature work very physical jobs, and work harder than you ever will in that cushy office job of yours (if applicable, but given that we’re on Lemmy… Chances are that it applies).
The first step towards not being a bigoted asshole is to look at reality as it is. Obese people are very diverse, there’s degrees in obesity. Some of them - mostly on MTV - are pathologically consuming heaps of unhealthy foods and look like balls of flesh straight out of a freak show. Others… don’t. Most of the real obese people I know get out of bed, go to work every morning and have fairly normal lives. My next-desk colleague even goes to the gym twice a week.
But yeah, in the mind of the dim-witted and the fatphobic cave dwellers, “being obese funny”.
Unless the obese are a hitherto untapped source of entropy-defying free energy, your statements cannot be correct.
You need to go out and meet them. I promise it’ll be eye-opening.
Chances are they’re from an industrial nation with an obesity problem and they never think to wonder if maybe it’s the environment at fault
there are degrees, and i never said otherwise. What i ment by “anthropomorphic equvalent of a truck” is exactly what you described - pathological consumers with a very unhealthy diet. I guess i have chosen my words poorly, therefore made my thought unclear. There are lots of fat people that are quite strong, and this is ok to me, as i said.
The part about physical activity wasn’t exactly about fat people though, rather about our modern society in general. A healthy diet with the correct balance, and moderate physical activity makes wonders, not simply in terms of weight. Those two things are grately underestimated. Those things were underestimated by me. After i started to be more physically active, my thoughts got clearer and i became much happier in general. And yeah, the best gym is a part-time job in a field, if you ask me. Actual gym sucks compared to it.
Yo I used to weigh 300 pounds and had health problems. Guess what happened when I lost 80 pounds? Many of these problems are fading away. There’s truth in this meme. I was this meme.
I think fatphobia and other issues like it are pretty good indicators as to whether or not people are actually evaluating issues correctly from like, a whole perspective, a detached “what’s good for society, what should I be doing that’s good for society” kind of perspective, or if they’re just kind of going based on what’s socially acceptable, and what’s emotionally appealing. Based on shit like this, I’d say it’s pretty clear that we have a ways to go.
I say, as I slowly roll over a 5 year old in my four door f150 “kids just don’t exercise anymore, they just stay in their houses and look at their phone” then I end my tiktok video.
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