Not me. I kill any process that pops up in task manager whenever i have to connect to the net. Some of them are annoyingly persistent but so far no full screen popups
That sounds exhausting
Also completely irrelevant and doesn’t do what he thinks he’s doing
I think it speeds up my boot process and even if it doesnt i do like killing bloaty apps
Lots of fun things are tiring
I’ll upgrade once Win11 is out of open beta. Almost once a week they patch in a bug that’s inconvincing users, I don’t have that issue with win10. I wish MS would spend that energy on bug fixing and QoL UI elements. Win11 has less taskbar options, you’d think they added them by now…
No small taskbar icons option was bothersome for me. Have to deal with it on my work PC. So much lost screen space 😭
This is in my top 10 reasons not to switch. You can make them small still via a registry edit, but then it messes up the date/time display.
Yeah I’d rather not be making regedits and of course can’t even do that on a work device.
I’ve blocked the Win11 upgrade on my work laptop via GPO, but I’m a sys eng, so have full control.
Used W11 for the first time recently, the lack of small task bar buttons blew my mind. Decluttering the task bar is the first thing I do on a new computer.
Upgrade to Linux! :D
That’s what i did and with very few issues (especially compared to what i had with Windows) I’ve not regretted it at all
The desperation. UPGRADE TO 11. ALSO USE BING. AND EDGE. COPILOT TOO PLS.
Well sadly my laptop is not supported for update 🤷
I’ll wait for it to day and get a proper Linux supported device:)
Till then, I’ll fly my w10
IMO it’s their loss.
What exactly is not supported on linux?
If it is like mine, it’s the update itself. It says something like hardware not supported and gives you a big ol’ Fuck You
Wicked processor freezing while switching into power saving (idle cpu-modes) modes, workes fine if I disable these, but then it’s always on full power
Have tried a lot, is a pain
At the Office it’s my employers problem and at home Mint doesn’t give AF about Windows 11.
How long will we be able to use 10 after EOL? Would companies immediately stop updating their apps?
As long as you want, assuming that you’re fine with the security risks and everything that’s rendered incompatible in the future.
To be honest, Windows 7 is best Windows for me but no existing applications can be used on it. So I hope I can use Windows 10 until game compatibility on Linux passes the threshold I’m looking for :)
What threshold are you looking for and when was the last time you tried it? I don’t even think about it anymore.
Depending on your game preference it may be already there in some aspects
Basically it depends on the kind of anticheat the game has
if you’re running a single instance of a game it’s already there. (I multibox so fuck me I guess)
if you’re waiting for native support it’s a chicken and egg scenario, your best bet is to switch asap and show developers there’s a market.
I’ve seen POS systems in local burrito shops still running Windows 7… native, not a VM…
I saw a bottle return machine running Windows 98.
I worked in a company which ran everything down to MS-DOS
Yup. Currently working at a company that has machines still running ms-dos due to them being critical and still working fine.
Well they’re fine until you can’t find replacement parts on Ebay anymore.
Two years ago I quit a company that was using a database (with sensitive user PII like social security numbers in the db) accessible via unencrypted TELNET. Not SSH, TELNET. I’m not fucking shitting you.
I worked there for one week and was like “fuuuuuuuuuuck this” and lied and said I had a better offer and tendered my resignation. I wasn’t part of the IT department and I wasn’t going to go down for an incompetent IT department.
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Don’t a lot of gas pumps still run on MS-DOS?
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We? I think most of us are not using Windows 10. Or Windows 11. Or Windows.
“We tried asking. We tried begging. We tried bullying. We even tried tricking people into upgrading. We tried everything short of actually making a usable OS!”
“Please people, please… just give us your money. We might leave you alone after that. For a while.”
Surely more AI will fix it!
I understand how it is possible for an OS to interrupt one’s use of one’s own computer to beg for money or to install spyware. I don’t understand how such an OS would still have users.
If I didn’t have to use it for work, and if Ableton Live made a Linux version, I’d never use Windows again. Every single activity is interrupted by messages that are effectively adverts for things you’re not interested in. The Start menu still doesn’t work after 29 years of development. Searching for a file is ridiculously slow and doesn’t find the file. Everything else is also slow, all the time. I have given up trying to arrange my desktop icons because they always go back to the same position they’ve been stuck in for months. All the applications hang, and the whole system has frequent unresponsive moments where God knows what it’s doing but it’s nothing I asked for. I dual boot into Linux and it feels like an oasis of peace.
Oh yeah, sorry, didn’t mean to rag on people that have to work with it. I think we’re all frustrated that it’s still so pervasive even though it gets worse every year.
Check out “everything” for windows, it finds files, all files, instantly. And it’s free.
If I worked at Microsoft, on windows, I’d be so ashamed I wouldn’t tell.
I use Everything. It is a thousand times more useful than Windows’s file search, even though it only indexes filenames, not file contents.
Microsoft has 18 months to convince folks to upgrade.
They’ll be lucky if I boot my Windows 10 partition between now and 18 months.
I almost did the other day. But then I found out that someone made a Flatpak of MakeMKV, so I didn’t need to.
Windows 10 keeps turning that stupid news feed back on on my taskbar, too.
This helps with all that bs https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/block_windows_11_from_installing.html
Are they spamming people with this on computers they know don’t meet system requirements?
You better believe they are. I get it about every other month, and my laptop doesn’t meet those requirements.
I turned off secure boot and didn’t get any popups for windows 11 ever
You might at some point, you don’t actually need secure boot turned on for Windows 11 your PC just needs to be capable of secure boot and use UEFI mode rather than legacy boot
Well that isn’t good. I hope I can get by with Linux
Did you read the article? The popup warns users about it, yes. It’s a good thing to let them know there won’t be more security updates for their OS.
I can see your point. Warning the user once is probably enough.
You would be amazed.
At work we provide popup notifications for a week when a users password is close to expiring
They still miss it and need to call helpdesk
And 90% of home windows user don’t give a damn.
How is that Microsoft’s fault? Should they be forcing users to care, somehow? The warning is already getting people angry as it is.
People don’t care and they see any pop-up it’s an annoyance and they immediately close it. I once had a student ask why is wasnt allowing her to download something. I asked her to show me what she was doing…as soon as the security warning for “do you want to save or cancel the file?” And then complain that it was broken.
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It’s good except for the fact that Windows 11 is tied to a piece of hardware level security of supposedly nebulous benefit to your average home user. So tons of computers that would otherwise be fine are going to end up being entirely replaced and turned into e-waste instead because their motherboard doesn’t have a TMP chip on it.
But that’s an issue with Microsoft requiring TMP for Windows 11, not them telling people that they’re gonna stop getting stuff like security updates.
I wonder if there’s a debloated version of Windows 11 that removes the TPM requirement…
Regardless, I’m this | | close to switching to Linux; I just need to make sure I can get OneDrive and full MS Office running in Linux reliably, since I need both for work. The Steam Deck has convinced me that I don’t need Windows anymore for gaming, so it’s only work holding me back. (Work pays me a stipend to maintain my own work computer hardware, so I do work on “my” machine.)
Edit: Looks like it’s actually pretty easy to do.
If you are fine with the older office suite (2019 I believe), there is a codeweaver program called crossover. They are the teams that make WINE a reality and they have a one version license so you can own it forever. Or yeah, you can also use VM.
Nice, thanks! 2019 should be good enough; the guides I was looking at were suggesting much older versions for WINE compatibility.
I just need to look into OneDrive, now.
Yeah, that is if I remember it correctly. But I do remember installing a modern office suite back then using crossover. They also have trials so you can test your target program is indeed running as it should before buying.
I ownder if its a tactic to get people, or mainly businesses to upgrade no so they are still in the windows ecosystem. They won’t want to pay for windows, so making it seem like their computer is outdated and should be upgraded is not a bad strategy. If a movement of converting to Linux starts, many users might leave. For good.
You think the average Windows user cares about security or updates? I’ve worked in IT for over a decade and I can tell you that the average person doesn’t give a damn.
Yup.
they do care about money.
Doing nothing is a very real probability. PCs have very real competition as well. Buying a cheap Apple air is now a great alternative to Microsoft Windows for people scared of linux. M3 processor is great and the devices cheap.
1300-2000 €. They wouldn’t be cheap if you cut off a digit from the price.
If corporations would just end their love affair with exchange online and fucking outlook, maybe windows would go away
Well, what is the alternative? Google? I don’t think that is a good trade.
Just use NeXtCloUD
The reality is that there is no real alternative to the office suite including outlook. That is a real problem but just using Linux is not the answer.
I work in finance, and the only time I use office is when my coworkers infrequently send me something locked in an Office document. Plenty of non-technical coworkers are addicted to it, but there’s no need, because it’s awful.
The Office programs are an ancient, bloated mess with an impossibly convoluted UI that to one uses more than a small share of.
The styles in Word and PowerPoint are never consistent: the bullets in lists never really match, fonts change randomly without reason, &c. These are intelligent people who have used this garbage for actual decades, and the WYSIWYG lie just results in a sloppy mess.
Even Microsoft wants everyone to stop using the desktop versions, and rent it from the cloud, which can be done from any OS.
For years, there was progress in moving governments away from implicitly endorsing Microsoft, and toward the simpler (but often still overcomplicated) OpenOffice/LibreOffice formats, and Microsoft engaged in some pretty shady behavior to stop it.
Markdown is better for documents, or maybe HTML, or LaTeX via LyX or something. Databases and legitimate file formats are better for data, with scripts for formulas. There are many simple alternatives around, but the addiction is so automatic and insidious, I can’t tell you how often over twenty years I’ve gotten screenshots pasted into an empty Word document rather than just sending the image.
why not?
A little less lock-in is literally a little bit better
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The ads
Win 11 will eventually replace win 10, just as win10 replaced win7, they are just desperate to reach their target before releasing windows 12.
Windows 10 was the last Windows version for me. I’m done. I’m done with the spying, and the ads, and the hidden admin options spread across 5 different locations, and the registry, and the bugs, and the viruses, and just their whole shit show. Linux 4 lyfe.
It’s just the spying for me. If it wasn’t for the spying and ads then I’d still be a Windows die-hard. If my OS was just an OS then I wouldn’t feel the need to switch to Linux
Yeah, the other things are just annoyances. But the ads and the spying are deal breakers for me. They’re our fucking computers, not Microsoft’s! They’ve got a lot of fucking nerve thinking they can just shove ads into our native OS. That’s literally how adware, which is classified as malware, has been classified for all of Windows history. But now they’re doing it themselves? Get fucked, Satya!
You missed Windows 8, which never replaced Windows 7
Windows 12 is scheduled to release before Windows 10 goes EOL. At this point, those who haven’t switched are better off just waiting to see if 12 is decent or it’s shittier than 11. If it’s the latter, it might be time to finally ditch Windows on my gaming PC.
