Leadership of my country has been calling for a ceasefire and reduction of violence since the beginning. Great to see that we’re lumped in with the Americans regardless.
Which one? A western one?
Western nations condemn Iran attack on Israel, issue statements of solidarity
It is possible to condemn both this attack and the embassy strike, just as it is possible to find the October 7 attack an appalling act of barbarism without wanting kids killed in retaliation
If you think israel bullying everryone is super cool and deny the victims of israeli aggression their right to retaliate then sure.
So Hamas killing kids is a-okay?
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No it’s only okay when israel does it. When Hamas does the same thing is when we discover morality.
Also a reminder that israel has on average killed more Palestinian kids every single day since Oct7 than Hamas did on Oct7 in total.
I’ve been the one saying nobody should be killing kids the whole time
That’s really cool if there were more people saying that would not even exist. Because the only reason they exist is in response to israel killing children.
Sadly we all decided to collectively ignored israel killing kids for 75 years so it starts feeling a little hollow when we criticize others for doing it.
Luckily Hamas only had a 3% child casualty rate on oct7 because they took care to avoid killing children (this is even including israeli friendly fire).
Compared to israels horrible Genocidal 40% child casualty rate in Gaza with worlds most advanced weapons it’s really weird that people keep painting Hamas as child killers.
Yes. Yes it is. It’s just wildly unpopular to be empathetic without a side of hatred these days.
Thank you for being a caring and moderate tempered person.
No man… if a kid is getting bullied and beat up by another kid and he snaps and fights back why would you be mad at him for defending himself?
There are 70 nations in the west. Based on the content of their comment, I’m guessing Canada.
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Double stranded as usual.
For those who are still under the illusion there is equal coverage of both sides;
Isreal bombing Iran got one front page spot for one day. People “died” passively,
Irans counter attack got the front page for three days straight. And we now see words such as “Attack”.
Well, all I could think today when hearing the head of the European Commission (a German, by the way) criticize Iran’s attack “in the stronguest terms” and restate her unwavering support of Israel whilst not having said a pip when Israel attacked the Irani Embassy, is that she’s doing Russia’s work at convincing the Global South that Europe and its allies are two-faced racists that can’t be trusted, which will have implications for, amongst other things, the support when it comes to Ukraine (which is globally seen as an European problem).
Way to put the security and even global influence of Europe on the noose for the sake of a supremacist ultra racist country run commiting a mass genocide along etnic lines.
Country that murders school girls vs country where it’s fine to be openly gay
Last time I checked israel killed more school girls than every country in the world combined for the past four years.
Gaza: Number of children killed higher than from four years of world conflict
And israel doesn’t allow gay marriage
And israel blackmails gay Palestinians into becoming spies
Any information that might enable extortion of an individual is considered relevant information. Whether said individual is of a certain sexual orientation, cheating on his wife, or in need of treatment in Israel or the West Bank – he is a target for blackmail.
If you’re homosexual and know someone who knows a wanted person – and we need to know about it – Israel will make your life miserable.
Last time you checked?
Iran hangs Kurds by construction cranes on such a scale some crane companies stopped sales.
Just Google Iran public executions. You people are full of shit and hypocrites. Yes, yes you’re anti western, so just go to Iran and let’s see how fast you’ll reverse your opinions.
Did I claim Iran did not do that? I pointed out that his positive claims of israel in his “vs” were completely false. Not sure how that makes me the hypocrite.
You’re anti western, so just go to Iran and let’s see how fast you’ll reverse your opinions.
Apparently being an islamophobic Zionist means you can lie about the crimes against humanity committed by israel and when someone calls you out they are a “pro Iranian hypocrite”.
One of the core foundations of Fascist propaganda is that when you are critical of the acts of the Fascists they always (yeah, always) claim that you’re a supporter of one their enemies.
One could spot that Zionists were just traditional Fascists well before all this because they’ve always used such extreme “you’re with us or you’re with our enemies” framing.
OK tankie scum
If you did any more stretching you’d become a kite lol
Despite Israeli incompetence at warfare their values are much more tolerant than murdering school girls for taking their hats off, stoning girls for being raped, murdering people for leaving their religions. Not even touching the whole idea of martyrdom where the muslim culture glorifies suicide murder.
No other culture has this. None. That’s not something the west needs fixing - it’s muslim cutlure that needs to unify and reject these absurd and evil ideologies and finally drag themselves into 20th century.
Oh look there it is You’re just here to spread blatant lies and islamophobia.
Israel is the party that has a child murdering problem
You’re conflating war casualties with cultural incompatibility on purpose to dismiss my point with your sad strawman which leads me to belive that you’re either extremely ignorant or you’re an useful propaganda idiot. Do not reply to me and enjoy steweing in your pointless anger like a loser you are :)
Gaza isn’t a separate country but I thought they were pretty homophobic, at least a bit more than Israel. Neither has gay marriage so I’d say neither really wins there though Israel is like so far ahead of Gaza in the killing kids department, I don’t think Hamas could kill that many kids even if they had nukes.
The country that literally invaded Israel to murder civilians during cease fire could not murder more people with nukes?
Man no amount of intentional satire could top this unintentional stupidity. Well done! 👏 👏 👏
Israel’s child death count is basically unbeatable at this point as I said.
You need some history lessons
Is someone bombing Israel right now? Im confused.
Israel bombed an Iranian consulate two weeks ago killing some top military officers. It did not receive much news coverage and America blocked condemnation of it at the UN.
Last night Iran launched a counter attack and bombed the israeli air bases that hosted the F35s F16s. Now and our entire collective political landscape loses its mind
Poow babies.
The government of Iran is shit, but even shitty people can do the right thing by accident, as shown here.
Aren’t they mostly freaking out because this could be the start of this getting much worse?
ikr? who woulda thought western support for indiscriminate bombing of civilians and land takeover could be start of something much worse? It should have totally gone similar to US invading Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq. Without consequences.
but you think now’s the start, huh?
Never said things aren’t bad right now. Not sure how ya even got there? Things are absolutely disgusting and everyone supporting this can rot in fucking hell. I am saying people are freaking out at this because, as bad as things are now, they can always get fucking worse.
Not really. Iran declared their retaliation complete. Netanyahu took out the IRGC commander he was going for in the embassy attack. There’s no reason to expect this to escalate.
Shame they didn’t freak out earlier. Maybe before the Israelis decided it would be fun to start bombing embassies and other countries for no reason.
I guess the fact that the word Nazi was part of Ashkenazi should have been a warning…
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Of course they expect them to retaliate. That’s the entire point. That’s why they attacked in the first place. They need Iran to be the boogeyman counterpart in the “help! We’re being threatened!” narrative that keeps the extremes in power in both Israel and Iran.
It’s neat how ‘western media’ is more than America. You know that, right?
Yes. What is your point?
Can you give us some enough examples of “western media that is more than America” calling out the genocide with the right weight and not playing the “we don’t think what you are doing is wrong but we have to save face to retain the illusion of credibility” game at the moment? Even BBC that first said it wouldn’t take part in sided labeling of groups openly said they caved in to the pressure of calling Hamas terrorists in their news about them, all the while Israel was bombing hospitals, housing units, aid delivery locations and trucks, ambulances, children and teens moving back their houses for food, shooting elderly people pleading for their lives?
Fucking hypocrites you all.
Reuters and the Guardian, two primary Zionist outlets that have massively pushed israeli propaganda over the last 6 months and are famous for their favourable language for israel…
That’s your source? Here is The Guardian today filled to the brim with propaganda. "Iran attacks, warns israel about “retaliation”. Classic Zionist reversal of cause and effect. Somehow Iran is the party destabilizing the region now.
And Reuters of course features videos of the main IDF Hasabara spreader just talking. No video footage of the missiles. Exactly what we need to see shove that propaganda in my face baby.
Have you noticed how the articles keep mentioning the Oct 7 first, something that happened 6 months earlier, then goes on the passively call “Palestinian deaths” and not tie to Israel directly, in their titles at least? That is what me and all the people are criticizing the western media about. Direct perpetrators and blame is pointed when it is Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Houthis, or any other Muslim population, and indirect, passive voice is used when it is something the western politicians support. Even goes as far to picture only structural damage rather than how hundreds of people are found killed by Israel’s unproportionate, deliberate and zealos attacks most of the time.
Have you noticed how the articles keep mentioning the Oct 7 first, something that happened 6 months earlier, then goes on the passively call “Palestinian deaths” and not tie to Israel directly, in their titles at least?
I have not actually, the first link starts with:
Life remains dire for displaced Palestinians in Rafah, a city near Gaza’s border with Egypt. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has now set a date for a planned offensive.
October 7th is mentioned in the latter half, as context as to why Rafah has so many people there currently. And it also mentions how Israel’s military told the civilians to evacuate to the south where it would be safer, but:
Rafah was supposed to be a safer place, but it never was, said Loay Fareed, who has been displaced multiple times with his family since the war began.
“There are bombings almost every day, and the frequency is increasing every day,” Fareed, 46, told DW via telephone from Rafah.
If you want the finger pointing directly:
Israel’s siege of the enclave has led to the onset of famine, particularly in northern Gaza, according to aid agencies and the United Nations.
The second link mentions October 7th because it’s literally giving an overview of the state of the region in the past 6 months. And it is literally showing pictures of dead Palestinian children.
The third link does not mention October at all.
The last link mentions October at the end for a 6 month statistic where it is said by name that Israel killed Palestinians:
At least 29,782 Palestinians have been killed and 70,043 injured in Israeli strikes on Gaza since 7 October, the Gaza health ministry said. In the past 24 hours, 90 Palestinians were killed and 164 injured in Israeli strikes, the ministry said.
“The Israeli government is starving Gaza’s 2.3 million Palestinians, putting them in even more peril than before the World Court’s binding order,” Omar Shakir, the Israel and Palestine director at Human Rights Watch, said.
“The Israeli government has simply ignored the court’s ruling, and in some ways even intensified its repression, including further blocking lifesaving aid.”
And this is just stuff I found after scrolling the above media websites for like 10 mins in total. There is no monolithic “western media” entity that repeats the same lines as almost all ‘criticism of western media’ implies. Some are objective, some are biased to a one specific side, some to another, some are just crap.
But whatever the case, it is demonstrably not true that no popular media in the west is reporting on the massive killings and destruction performed by Israel, that they all just ignore or downplay it.
Mentioning the Oct 7 as background:
Any attacks from the other side rarely has direct finger pointing to their background as Israel’s run of Gaza as open-air concentration camp, which it has been for quite some time. I’m not going to go in to egg-or-the-chickem of the whole decades long conflict, even tho I can discuss it, but the background is almost never direct as “IDF using unproportionate artillery, airstrike, drone, tank munitions on civilian concentrations” when it comes to Israel’s actions. Whether in title or as context, most if not all western articles basing the situation with the start as unprovoked Hamas attack is absolute double standards in showing recency, relevance and intensity.
On the finger pointing:
How is “large-scale offensive” not any distanced and cold, simply unbiased as all new should be? And what is “siege” anything but downplaying the aid blockade, blockade against leaving, bombing anyone trying to leave, bombing both aid-seekers and aid givers, shelling and bombing any and all buildings whether there are any confirmed or unconfirmed civilian/Hamas population inside?
I agree that western media isn’t monolithic. But even so, they are mostly aligned together when it comes to applying double standards in distanced reporting and hot-headed reporting, frequency, background, further context and speculation depending on the groups involved. Hence the hypocrisy. It may not be as blatant and amateur as some other media does or did, but it is nevertheless sinister. Whether completely but intent, or being pushed to do so by pressure.
France24 is the only foreign news channel we get over here in MiidleOfNowhere South Africa (because reasons), and I’ve been watching their coverage of Gaza with interest. If their “news” is to be believed, the bombs falling on Gaza and the bullets raining down on Palestinians trying to get food from aid trucks is spontaneously created out of thin air and not launched or fired by anyone.
Western mainstream media is as hasbara as fuck.
This world is not binary like your “smart” memes.
Thank you for enlightening us about the nuance of Genocide.
Binary good. Non binary bad. Easy.
I’m sick of you liberals who intentionally overcomplicate stuff to the point I no longer understand them and then you call me dumb and do whatever you want. MAGA!
Attention: huuuuuuge /S
Sure! Shades of grey! Iran’s government sucks; I hope every day that the people rise up and hang them. But genocide is bad. The only way to stop a genocide once it’s in full swing is to kill the fuckers doing it until they literally cannot continue-not until its not worth it, until they can’t.
And this was shitty people who work for assholes who deserve to die killing vicious inhuman monsters comitting every warcrime in the book and double checking to make sure they’re at 100% completion each month, then posting about it on social media). These are some of the worst most vicious monsters humanity ever produced (not that they’re still human), and anybody who tries to kill even one gets points in my book. There is no amount of dead perpetrators of genocide or chattel slavery that is unacceptable, and no condition of killing them that is unacceptable. So maybe this is the one time its not cool to shit on the current Iranian regime?
The US seriously needs to halt all export of weapons to Israel. They’re enabling them to start a massive war and painting a target on themselves in the process.
I’m assuming the US wants to have some proxy wars in the Middle East though.
why? this is literally only bad for America, both economically and foreign policy wise.
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A large portion of the us economy functions most effectively during a war effort.
the last time this was true, it was only true because the America government had gone into a planned economy for WW2
Im failing to see how its bad to sell old stockpiles for big bucks and replenish with more advanced weaponry.
we already did that, that’s where the Ukraine aid came from, we don’t got much more to sell off
Foreign policy is also questionable considering nearly every direct ally of the US is selling weapons to israel in one form or the other.
not to such a degree, also Israel is one of the big arms producers, if you exclude military aid from the US, they have been selling more than they have bought
The west benefits heavily from a destabilized Middle East.
how? higher oil prices? that’s a detriment to the “western” economies and a boon to nations like SA, RU, etc… that’s why Russia has been trying to increase the oil prices, because they know it will harm western economies
I’ve said this before, but I believe Israel is eager to use their nukes and the US is appeasing them. It’s the only way I can wrap my head around this.
I’m probably wrong, and am not professionally informed.
Israël has nukes?
They don’t deny having them is the official stance.
Yes.
Great, just another mentally unstable world leader that can start nuclear war at any given moment when they finally completely lose their sanity.
Yep, it’s one of the many reasons Iran and others are so interested in uranium enrichment… To be able to have regional MAD or similar.
MAD?
Mutually assured destruction.
Its a nuclear arms concept check it out
Either that or the risk of extremist terrorism from their far-right.
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Israel attacks Iranian consulate, Iran retaliates
You know it’s really interesting how all the Zionist vitriol and pro Biden onslaught disappears on weekends and it’s the takes that subscribe to consistent logic and ethics that rise to the top…
Lolwut
You have 23 downvotes. What does that say about your comment?
Yeah almost like they’re normal people who have lives
