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Sounds good - get it on my ballot, I’ll vote for it.
Fun copypasta.
God, go back to fucking Reddit.
Lol, ok Trumper
bro is working overtime 😭
It’s no wonder your generation is seen as such a fucking waste if you think typing “go back to fucking reddit” is A.) a Trump biased statement and B.) that it constitutes “working overtime” in such pursuits. Start rubbing the two brain cells you have left in an attempt to create enough static electricity to fire the one neuron you have remaining.
A) you’re getting pressed over a single fucking comment
B) you’re replying to any reply that is even remotely critical of trump
C) i only have one brain cell left, thank you very much
D) get off my dick or buy me lunch
Fragile ego much? jfc.
nah i just like taking the piss whenever i can lmao
How on earth can that be construed as a “Trumper” statement? He really does live rent free in your head, doesn’t he?
tell me with a straight face your life is better off under Biden than 4 years ago. or 8 years ago under Obama. This “meme” is so fucking stupid acting like no republican did anything good, or that no democrat did anything bad. If you believe that you’re a fucking idiot that can’t be helped.
yeah, I am quickly walking towards the door here, because these are the posts that get the most engagement, and quite obviously nothing about this platform has solved the core problems at the heart of reddit. Ooh, avoid the IPO, federation is so nice, sure, whatever, but then everything is still a horrible echo chamber where there’s no room for nuance. Maybe even more of an echo chamber than previously, because of federation, I dunno, hard to tell. Makes me want to not be here, though.
Yeah, it’s a fucking cesspool of ideological nonsense here.
Is anyone buying these lib propaganda memes? Carter is the one the screwed over the economy.
Is anyone buying these right wing trolls pretending to be leftists?
Yeah libs keep trying to pretend to be leftists, its annoying.
Liberals you mean?
Everyone who disagrees with Stalin is a liberal.
Lol, lib propaganda, ok Trumper
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Carter, who was President for 4 Years Screwed up the economy by liberalizing the housing market
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Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and Bush Sr, who ran the White House for 20 years had nothing to do with it
Please nobody ask what inflation was like between 1968 and 1992
Yeah, it’s probably better to go back to a lot of FDRs policies.
Or the bipartisan effort to keep house prices by any means necessary. Such as by giving everyone who a fairly low interest home loan , which directly led to 2008.
by giving everyone who a fairly low interest home loan , which directly led to 2008.
You think 2008 was the result of low interest rates?
No, guaranteed loans. If everyone can get a loan interest loan, it doesn’t really matter to them if a house costs $200,000 or $400,000 spread out across 30 years. So home prices just continue to inflate. The loan interest rates and guaranteed loans are the reason prices got so high in the first place, the collapse of this scheme by flying too close to the sun with repealing Glass-Steagal is what lit the fuse in 2008. But they’ve got their plan back on track now.
No, guaranteed loans.
A necessity in a society whose economy operates via credit expansion.
it doesn’t really matter to them if a house costs $200,000 or $400,000 spread out across 30 years
If you’ve ever had to pay a mortgage note, you’ll discover that it matters substantively. The real benefit of the 30 year note isn’t the scale but the fixed interest rate. Once you find a house you can afford, rising rates of pay relative to a fixed rate of interest means the real house note costs decrease over time.
The loan interest rates and guaranteed loans are the reason prices got so high in the first place
Prices for housing vary substantively by region and by density. Housing prices in neighborhoods with low rates of development continued to be cheap well into the early 2000s. Housing prices in the suburbs and exurbs - particularly for new builds - are consistently cheaper than in the urban centers where real estate is scarce.
If you check out the Austin, TX real estate market during the Carter to Clinton period, housing was incredibly cheap and abundant. It wasn’t until the construction boom in the mid-00s that prices began to climb, and the rate of climb outpaced most of the continental US well into the Trump/Biden era. That had nothing to do with “guaranteed loans” under Carter and everything to do with Austin developers quickly maxing out available real estate development area easily accessible from the freeways. Same thing happened in DC and Virginia, after Amazon moved in. Housing speculation boomed, completely apart from individual credit.
You can see the reverse in Michigan, Ohio, and Illinois, where the collapse of the auto industry made real estate incredibly cheap. Also in Florida, abet on a much tighter timeline.
And the major driver behind all of these price fluctuations has been private equity investment in residential real estate
This has nothing to do with Carter and everything to do with three men by the names Gramm, Leech, and Biley.
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If you want “both sidez”, both sides supports the federal reserves which directly robs the poor and middle class and has been doing it for decades. But sure, taxes on the rich are really the problem!
Deep cut!
I can point to how the federal reserve is harming the poor and middle class, and I think its important to recognize when your own side is fucking them.
I would not say both sides are the same, but this a bullshit oversimplification. The dems are not some ray of sunshine who have only made this country better.
Saving Democracy
Biden was responsible for removing the democratically elected prime minister in Pakistan because he refused to follow the geopolitical whims of the USA. His entire party is dead in the water with several MNAs assasinated, hundreds tortured, and thousands of supporters still in jail without trial or bail.
So respectfully, fuck off with this shitty propaganda meme.
OK who let the DNC get a lemmy.world account
Y’all left off “enabling genocide” for Biden. should definitely be before saving democracy.
Edit: also, you can’t save something if it’s already destroyed.
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I remember with each Presidential change, that when a Republican president came into power, they had a budget surplus, created by their democratic predecessor, which they then squandered, and when it was tome to switch to a democratic president, they got a deficit, and managed to work theyr way out of it. Each time, fox would comment on how these Democrat presidents always had a deficit. It was, and continues to be, maddening.
Require news organizations to be truthful again, fuck that “but much first amendment” bullshit, one has nothing to do with the other
News conglomerates haven’t been truthful since at least Hearst.
It’s the same in the UK. Within 15 minutes of the Tories finally (hopefully) losing power in the next election they’ll be gesturing to the shit state of things, that they themselves caused, and saying “Look at how the Labour government has ruined this country!”
I find it funny how tories were like “This is the best the economy has been in five years! Look at us go!!” Okay, and who was in government 5 years ago?
Require news organizations to be truthful again,
Faux News has stated in court that they are not a “news organization”, they are “entertainment”.
That sounds like an admission to false advertising to me
We have a store called Best Buy.
A huge part of Clinton’s deficit reduction was eviscerating welfare with the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act. He also made a lot of money for rich people by repealing the Glass-Steagall Act, which directly let to the 2008 financial collapse. Also, Obamacare is not Universal Healthcare; Obama would have needed to keep the Public Option for it to be considered universal coverage. He also made a lot of money for rich people through TARP.
Also, the year gaps are a little disingenuous. Like, where are Nixon, or even Carter. Like, Carter is a good man at least.
Define “huge”
Why, would it be better if he gutted welfare for a small deficit reduction?
The public option was tanked by Senator Lieberman, who at that point became an independent. All we would have needed was a Republican to break ranks and we would have had a public option.
A) Lieberman didn’t become an independent at that point, he’d been an independent since he lost his primary in 2006 B) no matter what the excuse, it doesn’t change the fact that saying the ACA is Universal Healthcare is a lie.
Don’t forget Obama’s work on a 2015 stimulus for the international Doctors without Borders program that allowed the construction of a brand new hospital in Kunduz, saving countless lives!
For more information, Google “2015 Kunduz Doctors without Borders”
Yup, totally the same.
-insert The Office meme here-
_ Corporate wants you to tell the difference between the two parties.
_ American: They are the same party.
I love how you just continue to insist on being wrong despite reality
Okay, I get what you’re saying, but to call the Affordable Care Act “Universal Healthcare” is like calling one of those meal boxes from Taco Bell an all-you-can-eat buffet
While I do agree with what you say, the post is about goals, not achievements. It’s an important distinction, and Obama did have universal healthcare as a goal.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jun/11/obama-administration-universal-healthcare-reform
Gee, I wonder WHO was taking actions to prevent that from coming out as universal healthcare. And I wonder WHICH SIDE of the aisle they were on.
Per usual - it was Biden, rushing to the aid of republicans to assist with their agenda. Which in this case was watering down their own healthcare proposal in order to remove the public option. In fact, he conceded this portion of the bill before any negotiations had even begun, as a “show of good faith” toward his Republican colleagues. Thanks Biden.
I think you’re letting Joe Lieberman get away
Lieberman threatened to join Republicans in filibuster to kill the public option and Obama’s response was “Okay, we’ll just pull that piece for you, no problem.”
Gee, thanks, you jerk. Now I want one of those meal boxes from Taco Bell.
Obama also campaigned that he would codify abortion into law, got elected, and then said it was not a priority. Then didn’t do anything to protect reproductive rights.
This image is complete propaganda.
Obama goal:
end FPTP so the 2000 election doesn’t happen again and againShort term easily reversible promisesBiden goal: what democracy, and how exactly
what democracy, and how exactly
A democracy where someone can lose the popular vote and still get elected president, and where a minority can hold both chambers of Congress, clearly
It’s a democracy we must fight to protect.
And by fight, I might go on the Internet and complain that other people aren’t voting hard enough.
other people aren’t voting hard enough
Broke: Republicans
Woke: Democrats
Bespoke: Cum
Ah yes, the old “it’s propaganda because it doesn’t include literally everything that has ever happened”.
Bush dodged that shoe like a fucking boss so how bad a president could he have been?!
Is it rosy colored? Sure. Does it still have a generally true premise? IMO yes.
Really stupid that we beat down the people on the left that demand a better candidate than the one who said he would be a one term president. A man who is further left than Nixon in most aspects. Yet, we have all these people who will die on the hill of Biden and we continue to ratchet to the right.
A better candidate would have been 2021-2023. You missed your window of THREE YEARS.
Okay, so let’s say Biden in 2024 for the sake of argument. Who’s the best candiate starting 2025? For the next President? Who. Name someone. Anyone.
For the Democratic Party: Pritzker would have handled it well. Maybe Beshear, even Evers.
By 2025 I will be curious if Hobbs or Shapiro will have the chops. Maybe even Grisham or Kotek, who knows.
And that’s just the governor pool.
There are options and have been options.
Biden never actually said that, but the fact that you think he did tells me all I need to know about how little you pay attention and what news sources you follow.
The meme here overstates Biden, but that’s not where you were originally poking.
It’s totally fine to want a better candidate, but I don’t get down with cutting off your nose to spite your face: “Haha allowing authoritarianism and the erosion of democracy by non participation or durden voting will sure teach the Dems to pick a better candidate! Got em!”
Side note, I think you mean right of Nixon, yeah?
If he is to be believed (and that is certainly up to debate), Obama’s goal was universal healthcare, and his compromise was the ACA.
Personally I think as soon as the public option was gutted this compromise failed to meet what was sought out by the goal, so I don’t think it should be counted at all as achieving that goal, but I don’t think it’s inherently disingenuous to make the claim that Obama wanted universal healthcare… I guess he just didn’t want it enough.
Obama supported the public option which would have been a form of universal healthcare. It was axed because Joe Lieberman spent months grandstanding and then Ted Kennedy died.
Postal 2 was right to teach us all to hate that dude
People hate finding out the ACA is the Republican plan based on Romney’s healthcare system from MA.
Well we couldn’t know what it said til they passed it. “Call it the stupidity of the American voter”
Clinton repealled the Glass-Steagal act, which led to the 2008 crash, Obama’s unconditional bailouts of financial institutions and ultra-low interest rates and subsequent hyperfinancialization of the Economy, the current house prices bubbles, an explosion in inequality, and an even further collapse of social mobility in the US.
To say that he doubled-down on Reagan’s work is an underestimation.
Sure, it’s all a bit obscure for those who weren’t in Finance during the period around 2008, but that doesn’t make it any less so.
(And lets not forget his wife’s later “got paid million dollar for a speech to a room full of financiers” that helped her loose to none other than Donald Trump)
The idea that almost all those Democrats in that list didn’t do “More money for the rich” is hilarious.
Also as an European in a country with a National Health Service, celebrating Obama’s version of “Universal Healthcare” is “you’re fucking kidding me”-level insulting.
That stuff is some Narnia-level Eyes Hard Closed level of tribalist self-delusion.
That’s a giant load of revisionist history
The alternative explanation is that you’re a commited member of this specific political tribe and just have to defended those you see as your chiefs no matter what, even if lacking an actual argument.
This alternative explanation perfectly explains the absence of even a shred of an actual counter argument in your post.
Obama’s unconditional bailouts? You mean TARP? The thing signed by GW Bush 3 months before Obama’s inauguration? Seems like maybe you got some of them there obscurity issues you were going on about.
I was right in the middle of the Investment Banking Industry back at the time and paid close attention to all the details about how the entire thing was conducted and the kind of market interventions going on, rather than just eat up the high level bullshit fed to pre-convinced members of that specific political tribe who don’t know how the business works …
I actually had a pretty good opinion of Obama up until I saw who he put there conduction the bailouts, how they were conducted, how the pain was distributed, how the market was intervened in and which economic strata were saved with whose money.
TARP doesn’t even amount to a tip of an iceberg.
Lowering admission standards is not helping the country, is dumbing it down.
