Well, Microsoft is getting ready to annoy its faithful Windows 10 user base with yet another prompt. This time, Microsoft wants Windows 10 users to switch from using a local account to their online Microsoft account.
Obligatory “switch to Linux to turn it off” comment.
But honestly, Windows becoming more annoying and actively working against me is the reason I finally switched 4 months ago. It wasn’t that Windows is proprietary, or that Linux has some technological advantages (as Windows probably has others) or that I disliked the desktop environment or whatever. It got in my way, and that’s disrespectful and time consuming. I don’t want my OS to get in my way, I want to do things with my computer.
The irritating thing about all this is, at least if Raymond Chen is to be believed, the OS letting you do what you want without getting in your way was actually a/the core design philosophy of Windows up until probably the end of the XP era. It seems with Vista they started losing the plot, and by the time of Windows 8 Microsoft had fully committed to going completely off the rails.
Honestly, Windows 7 was kind of good. It’s the last Windows OS I could stand to use because it’s the last one that was offline. You could do whatever you want and update whenever you want, there were no ads in the start menu or whatever
Install Linux and be done with the microshit nonsense.
“Oh but this particular thing requires 20 minutes of my time to figure it out” then take 20 minutes. On windows you took a lot more, you can spare this
But “insert specific hardware or software here” doesn’t work in Linux! Then find alternate ways. I’ve used a Linux desktop for well over 29 years now, I had problems , like everyone else, but I never faced any of this and all the other bullshit from Microsoft. Bluetooth didn’t work? I got a different adapter that does have Linux drivers.
Linux is growing bigger and bigger, more companies will support it, just use it. Worst case you change problem a for problem b but at least you’re no longer paying to be spied on.
F everything about Microsoft
well aero was pretty, and the age of empires games were fun.
Exactly this, Windows has NEVER been a “it just works” desktop and people complain bitterly about it until Linux is offered… Suddenly “it works differently than windows” becomes an insurmountable obstacle people don’t dare to take
Even LTT did this in their windows vs Linux comparison a couple of years back. Basically they introduced every possible user error (like not realizing they were copying a 4 GB file and expected it to copy under a second) as a Linux problem… I mean, come on!
In the end it’s the exact situation as with pick up drivers… “Try to haul 10 tons of maneure on a Prius!”… Sure if you truly need to do that daily, stick with your truck, but the vast majority of pick up owners could have a normal sized car and barely would need to take special actions once a year
also, Linux is better at that kind of utility task.
It’s also always been strange to me, because the default response to any issue with Windows when I used it was “just reinstall”
Even at work, my laptop got kicked off of Active Directory - they tried to fix it for a couple days and ended up with“we have to reimage it”
Give me HTC Vive SR-Anipal drivers, HP Reverb G2 Omnicept SDK drivers (yes, I know it’s discontinued from 24H2), and I might consider switching to Linux.
So, not happening.
While I wholeheartedly agree with the notion of “switch to Linux if you can”, sometimes people can’t do this due to obscure work software, specific hardware they can’t afford to change, or something else.
I know that being on Linux all those Windows enshittification news appear very distant, but some people literally can’t escape Windows for now - it’s not only those who are reluctant - and those news are bad news.
For those who consider Linux, though - by all means go for it. You can install Linux alongside Windows (preferably on another physical drive, but same drive will do), and just tinker with it and see how it feels. Don’t just toy with it, actually try to use it. As with any system, it might seem a bit weird for your first few hours, but when (if) you’ll be ready to make a switch, you really won’t look back.
Linux is not just an “ideological” choice. It is faster (you may not notice this on Windows, but even on greatest of computers Windows is lagging a bit, and you’ll feel the difference); it doesn’t bombard you with anything, it doesn’t shill you anything, it doesn’t do what you didn’t ask, it just gets the job done exactly the way you want it to.
And it’s insanely satisfying. Silence and control. For once, you actually are a master of your system.
Choose some distribution that supports KDE Plasma desktop - be it Fedora KDE, Manjaro KDE, KDE Neon or anything else - they will all do. KDE will make your experience way more Windows-like, and it will be easier to switch. In fact, KDE is what Windows desktop wish it could be.
Or, if you feel nostalgic for Windows 7 era, choose Cinnamon-based distros, especially Linux Mint.
And just run it. The time is now.
It turns off in you install linux
Great success
It grinds my gears for so many reasons, but most of all, it creates a huge vulnerability with little or no benefit to the end user. Needlessly adding extra online exposure, just so they can data mine.
I love how microsoft is becoming more and more supportive of linux!! Thanks
(by making the switch to linux more enticing)
If only AMD would get their asses to release a stable and functional ROCM implementation, I could migrate 100% to Linux.
have you tried the rocm docker containers that amd makes for your needs? it pretty much makes installing rocm on the base OS unneeded for me. https://hub.docker.com/u/rocm https://github.com/ROCm/ROCm-docker
AFAIK, cards older than GFX1030 require manual setup, including building parts of ROCM with modified flags, since v5.1
There is one extra step. I have an 6700xt, and with the docker containers, you just have to pass the environment variable
HSA_OVERRIDE_GFX_VERSION=10.3.0
to allow that card to work. For cards other than 6000 series, you would need to look up the version to pass for your generation.Here’s an example compose file that I use for ollama that runs ai models on my 6700xt.
version: '3' services: ollama: image: ollama/ollama:rocm container_name: ollama devices: - /dev/kfd:/dev/kfd - /dev/dri:/dev/dri group_add: - video ports: - "11434:11434" environment: - HSA_OVERRIDE_GFX_VERSION=10.3.0 volumes: - ollama_data:/root/.ollama volumes: ollama_data:
I switched to Linux because of this. I’m sick of them pushing some OneDrive agenda. I want a personal computer. Not a cloud connection that a corporation has access to.
ITT: dudes stroking their cocks with the thought of Linux numbers increasing.
2024 is the year of the Linux desktop
/s
All shall tremble before the might of the obscure OS with their mighty percentage usage of…
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3.77%!
SAAAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE LINUX INSTALL SAAAAAR
[Users being treated as owners of their hardware instead of sheep to fleece]
Linux people: oh fuck yeah spread it
ah this one is easy, it’s called use linux.
Stop coping and use linux.
This has been: your local linux user, thank you for having me.
This crap is getting annoying. Most people are office workers with no say about their day to day OS.
Office workers will not be getting pestered to sign up for a Microsoft account.
you best be sure they’ll be paying for it though!
ok
How is one supposed to have a local admin account if it’s fucking online. Makes no sense
The point is not to help you control your own machine, the point is trying to force people to subscribe to their own machines.
That’s exactly what it is and it’s infuriating. I planned this rig, I bought the parts, I built it, get your god damned hands off of it, Microsoft. When I can muster up the energy you’ll be forever doomed to a life in a KVM in Linux, you assholes.
I turned it off two weeks ago by installing Mint.
For a second I was wondering how the money management app that intuit just killed stopped this for you. Forgot that’s also a distro, I’m a dumbass.
Haven’t they done this since like Windows 8 or even 7? Thought it was pretty much mandatory already tbh.
Not really. There’s always a skip or cancel button or “sign in another way” prompt somewhere. I think this means they’re going to start prompting people more often.
How about reinstall it fresh and run that OOBE command during the initial setup? Idk if it’s still working or not
Knock it off, Microsoft. You’re not my buddy, you’re an OS. Your job is to sit down, shut up, and run the programs I choose. That’s it.
If I find a function that’s useful for more than a week, I might make a batch file for it. Until then, you’re spare code.Personally I love that Microsoft did this. Please keep making windows more and more shit and annoying to use so people will switch to something else
Windows users will add a new PowerShell command or registry hack to the pile of shit to do to clean up a fresh install, and keep complaining that Linux is too hard.
Lol yeah I keep hearing about the commands and stuff people have to do at Win11 installation to stop it from forcing you to have an account or satisfy MS’s ridiculous TPM requirements. I hear about the commands people run to disable (most) telemetry, and the registry edits people use to prevent Windows from spawning ads, etc.
And I’m like damn, why is windows so complicated? It should never be required that a user open a terminal/command prompt.
You vastly underestimate the tolerance of an average user who barely knows their way around a web browser and Word.
My mom doesn’t even have a computer. She’s already retired so there’s not much money to squeeze from that demographic. In my late 20s, 30s and 40s I could build a new computer no problem. I use Linux. There’s no going back ever. Unfortunately I use windows at work cuz I’m forced to do that and I occasionally have to help my wife to windows some shit. No, my kids are going down the Linux rabbit hole.
I said the same thing, until the kids needed to use Office365 for school.
And NO, Libreoffice won’t cut it because the school is deeply entrenched with Microsoft - it’s not just using Word or whatever, but all those OneDrive things that are so tightly integrated.
So they run Windows, and I hate it. My work laptop also runs Windows, and I hate it. But there’s only so far you can take your idealism if you still want to be part of a normal functioning society.
My home server rocks Linux and Docker and whatnot. But work and school? Just accept it.
There has to be a resistance. Basically all of us who know our way around a computer, we simply quit helping the rest and bam Microsoft is history. And I think that’s happening now. I’m simply not going to push that shit into my kid’s life. I have a simple mind and I’m simple minded. Here I am typing on a little rectangle of glass and plastic with one finger. I’m writing more than a few words a day to many strangers. There’s no need for 15gig or you pay google powered AI one drive shit. You know that. Me, I would like to own my works of art. Wether it’s this very response or a photo. I want to know where in my computer the thing is stored and I would like for Microsoft to not have access to it. It’s a privacy issue. All the big companies are going to hit the privacy wall soon. Besides their shitty software, they will be hit by legal battles. If they win, we all loose. If they loose, then maybe, just maybe our kids will grow up with computing options that are there to help them and not to take advantage of their labor. Man, I’m willing to stand up in front of a PTA meeting and say this. I’m just tired of these tech corporations running loose and taking away our future. That’s all.
Can’t you use Office and OneDrive online?
Yeah, you just need a browser and you’re set, you could even use a tablet, no need for windows.
facts
Man I have to take this tone with every LLM I talk to.
You’re not mah buddeh Guy!
I’m not your guy, friend!
I’m not your friend, buddeh!
I’m Guy your friend, not!