Agreeing to disagree isn’t something I put caveats on.
Opinions can’t be “respected.”
This is a spread from yes to no where “yee” applies to hypothetical things that are fully objective and “no” to hypothetical things that are fully subjective
Do you have any examples for „fully objective“ things?
No. I specified that they are hypothetical for that reason.
So if I understood you, you meant in reality we should more or less respect the opinion without arguments based on whether it is more or less subjective?
Yes.
I can respect the opinion of someone who is not making any arguments. I can respect the opinion of someone who mostly makes bad arguments but sometimes makes good arguments. I probably won’t respect the opinion of someone who only makes terrible arguments, especially if they are also an asshole about it.
Sort of. I respect your right to have an opinion, but I’ll respect the opinion a lot more if backed by facts and data.
An argument is only as respectable as the person making it.
I don’t think in terms of respect about something like this as this leans towards some kind of snobbery or predudice. Either I agree or don’t. Regardless of any perceived level of knowledge or intelligence behind an argument, I’ll respond as a point of advancing shared knowledge rather than trying to ‘win’.
Depends on what it is about. We meet and you say :
- You’re vegan. Good.
- You use Linux. Good.
- You’re on the Fediverse. Good.
- You love bicycles. Good.
Now we meet again and you talk about privacy and then ask for my WhatsApp number (which is non existing) to continue that conversation later -> The heat is on! 🔥
So it depends on the threat level. That’s prudent.
Depends on how consequential it is. If it’s about Taylor Swift it doesn’t matter, feel however you want, but if it’s about how society should be run than yeah you kinda do
The you are agreement with others here. It depends on the threat level.
It depends on how harmful that opinion is. You prefer vanilla ice cream because you like the mild flavor - cool, difference of opinion. You prefer there were no same-sex marriages because your religion is against it - no, that affects other people’s lives so if you want me to respect that opinion you would have to have a good argument.
It helps, but ultimately my perception will overrule your opinion if the two conflict. I tend to not listen to or express opinion much—he says, about to express his opinion… It’s like belief, where gaps of knowledge are filled by faith/assumption in order to reach a certain point of belief. An opinion is reached the same and implies there.could be (a lot) more time spent on assumption than checking other avenues. Afterall, if your opinion were true, it wouldn’t be an opinion, it would just be what is. You’d be able to share the existing knowledge, not argue it. The more knowledge you can share, the more valid it is…unless I have a perception of value like first-hand experience or as a subject matter expert.
Although, keep in mind that I’ll show you the same respect as you show me. We don’t need.to respect each other’s opinions.
No, but you need a good argument if you want me to support or act on your opinion.
How does authority figure in?
I don’t understand his reasoning but he’s got a good reputation. Or cites such.
It isn’t a fallacy. It works pretty good most of the time, it’s easier than doing your own research and it’s how we get 99% of the information in our society.
It’s not a black and white thing - some reliance on experts is of course necessary.
Google “appeal to authority fallacy”, there are many examples.
Authority means I’ll give an opinion a second look if my first instinct is to ignore someone, only if it’s in their area of expertise.
If there’s authority without expertise, it means nothing to me.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
If your opinion is that kittens are cute, I’m on board. If your opinion is that everyone over 30 should be sterilized unless they are in a top 10 percent earning category, you’re going to have to work for respect for that, and better have a damn convincing argument.
So, yes, unless.
Does the plain fact that somebody said it carry any weight?
If you’re a vetted expert in the field in question. Yes, I’ll give your opinion weight. I e. The millions of scientists and doctors talking about vaccines.
If you’re a chad who watched a YouTube video, no I’ll dismiss you as the idiot you are.
No, you could have great arguments while being an ass. When you don’t argue from any morals or ethics, or a ground floor of ascertaining the truth, I have zero respect for your opinions. I don’t really care about what a ‘good’ argument looks like, it doesn’t even need to be good, as long as your grounded in reality and ethics, you’re fine.
If it’s a totally subjective opinion, no. You can like food I don’t, or even have kinks I don’t.
If it’s even slightly fact-based, kind of yes, unless you keep it entirely to yourself. I don’t have to agree with it to respect it, though, if you have any reasonable kind of argument.
Like someone else said, in practice nobody actually cares what I respect.
