• sadreality
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    We getting to the point where some Linux distros are objectively better systems… all around. Having way less issues with PopOS than I did with Win11

    • @[email protected]
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      172 years ago

      Yeah, I switched my gaming PC over to popOS and noticed no major issues - steam and heroic just worked as I expected.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        Does this mean the games that worked on steam for windows will also work on steam for popOS?

        • @[email protected]
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          112 years ago

          Usually. Proton by Steam (versions of wine tuned specifically for games) makes just about anything run flawlessly with one click to turn it on in the settings and occasionally some fine tuning for particular games like setting it to run a particular version of proton. This works on any Linux distro.

          Outside of Steam, and when trying to mod Steam games, it’s a lot more hit or miss.

          • @[email protected]
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            52 years ago

            The other thing worth noting is that just because a linux distro is noob friendly, it doesn’t mean advanced users should feel the need to use more complicated distros. Quite the opposite in a lot of cases - I’ve used Linux for work over ~10 years (first tried it in 2007) and yet find myself back on Ubuntu for my laptop. PopOS for my desktop because of nvidia convenience (+ less issues than most other distros).

    • @[email protected]
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      72 years ago

      Same, switched to an easy Mint install and immediately felt more in control of my computer again. Some professional software does still cause problems though so a 100% switch sadly isn’t possible… yet.

    • @[email protected]
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      82 years ago

      Currently demo-ing Mint, and might actually switch.

      Mostly because almost every non-UWP app works fine and good alternatives exist for things that don’t, and partially because the PC doesn’t sound like it’s taking off when it starts up.

    • Poggervania
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      Yup, just moved to Mint on my laptop since I’ve been getting some issues with Windows draining the battery quick despite it being in “good health” according to Dell, and just general performance hiccups across Windows.

      Super low CPU and RAM usage, snappier performance for word processing and surfing, and a longer battery life? With no tracking features to boot? All for free? Hell yeah I’ll move over to Linux lol.

    • @[email protected]
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      712 years ago

      True, I’ve been using NobaraOS and have no problems at all, I moved my mom from windows to ZorinOS and she only noticed because her laptop no longer “freezes up” randomly, and I’m talking about a surface book that runs better on Linux than on Windows. Gotta love the irony

      • @[email protected]
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        162 years ago

        Yep! Co-worker had 2 old laptops, threw a SSD into one of them and put Zorin OS on it for his daughter to do schoolwork on. Not one complaint or question about how to do anything, and it’s been a year. The other one was very very underpowered so I threw CasaOS onto it and got him setup with Home Assistant and Adguardhome.

        • Tippon
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          The other one was very very underpowered so I threw CasaOS onto it

          How did you get past the website? It’s bloody awful :o

          Joking aside though, I hadn’t heard of CasaOS, so I just did a quick search. That website is awful on mobile. I swiped up, assuming that there was more than just the live demo link, but nothing happened for a while. Then, loads of content popped up at once and scrolled past >.<

          I’ve sent it to myself to check out on the computer. Hopefully, if it does what it claims, it could resurrect an old laptop :)

      • @[email protected]
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        262 years ago

        Hah, same here. Nobara for me and Zorin for mum, works like a charm. If only mainstream OEMs pre-installed Linux and promoted it more… But I guess this is fine too. One day, when I have enough capital, I’ll launch my own Linux Desktop company and be the change I want to see.

      • iByteABit [he/him]
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        42 years ago

        I once installed Zorin for my gf’s ancient laptop, it was so much faster and she loved the color schemes for xfce

    • @[email protected]
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      132 years ago

      If I didn’t use my pc primarily as a gaming pc I would absolutely be running Linux. Hopefully one day we can get there with compatability and performance.

      • sadreality
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        I use mine for gaming and shit posting… only anti cheat triple AAA does not work like new BF and CoD, everything else runs great or fine.

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            Valve doing lords work but let’s NOT bootlick too hard they are just defending turf and we happen to benefit

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              I mean I’m going to date myself but the game I play the most on my steam deck is dungeon keeper 2 from GOG and it works fine

        • @[email protected]
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          22 years ago

          There are definitely “quirks”, even with a lot of the gold/platinum rated games on protondb. E.g. Titanfall 2, horrible crackling audio issues at times, even though it runs great otherwise. Firewatch, random choppy slowdowns, but rare. BattleBit, sometimes (not too often) 20 seconds of 20fps, then back to normal.

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          62 years ago

          The bad news, for me at least, is yes I can get most games to run fine. Skyrim, cyberpunk, Sims 4 etc. The issue is modding. Sims 4 is excluded from this as you littlery just drop .package files in the mod folder and just works. But games like cyberpunk and Skyrim…you often need external tools/injectors/animation riggers etc for a lot of the 'good stuff’s. And getting those tools to work properly can be a nightmare.

          • exu
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            12 years ago

            I don’t remember it being much of a nightmare for Skyrim, but then again some mods were indeed broken. Pretty normal tho :/

          • @[email protected]
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            32 years ago

            Why do those tools work differently on Linux if the games are fine? At most a script extender would need is a Microsoft Dell and don’t those come with wine or whatever?

            Honestly asking. I use Windows. But if games work I’ll switch.

            • @[email protected]
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              92 years ago

              Generally you use some kind of tool to manage/update the mods and set them to load in the right order. While those tools may also work under Linux with Proton/Wine/etc, each app you launch typically has its own isolated folders. So in order to get it to work, you’d need to change where that mod manager app uses to use the folders that Proton/etc configured for the actual game like Skyrim. That’s compared to just installing the mod configurator/launcher app and having it start Skyrim for you on Windows.

              The fact that there’s a 60 page guide on how to do it tells you it’s not as easy as on Windows: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/91500?tab=description

              • @[email protected]
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                42 years ago

                Aaand I’ll be using Windows for awhile I guess.
                Kudos for the author putting that together.

                • CALIGVLA
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                  42 years ago

                  I think the best you can do is still dual boot Linux and Windows, not ideal but at least you’re avoiding most of these issues.

            • @[email protected]
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              12 years ago

              They can use any number of extra libraries and such. Idk I’m not a programmer. But I’ve certainly tried. Though tbh it’s been. A while. Sadly I dual boot just for the games that I mod that require a bunch of external tools to mod. I don’t have the time anymore to try and force em. A me problem yes.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      My keyboard and trackpad often don’t work on resume in PopOS but otherwise I really like it.

  • @[email protected]
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    2412 years ago

    I wish they release a tool for their system to work properly. Like connecting to Bluetooth headphones or no full cpu load out of nowhere.

        • @[email protected]
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          192 years ago

          Microsoft always has such a weird relationship with naming conventions… just look at Xbox and all of its descendants.

        • @[email protected]
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          132 years ago

          Imagine they skip 12 and call it 13 like they did with W10

          With as little sense as Microsoft makes most of the time, that decision actually does make sense. A lot of programs and scripts were lazy about checking the Windows version and just checked for the presence of a ‘9’ in the version string to determine if they were running on Windows 95/98.

          A bunch of shit would have broken if they had released Windows 10 as Windows 9, which is what it should have been semantically.

        • no banana
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          32 years ago

          Hey that’s why I wrote 14. Because I think they will

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          They are more likely to skip Windows 13 due to “triskaidekaphobia” (fear of the number 13) though, like they did with internal versions for Office:

          • Office 2003 (11.0)
          • Office 2007 (12.0)
          • Office 2010 (14.0)
          • Office 2013 (15.0)

          But I imagine it will be something more stupid like Windows L or Windows One.

    • @[email protected]
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      122 years ago

      It blows my mind that system file checker isn’t just a scheduled task that works during idle time. Same with DISM.

      • @[email protected]
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        52 years ago

        You can easily schedule it yourself but I wouldn’t. I have used sfc /scannow about 10 times. It did fix an issue once - a VM repeatedly locking up doing Windows updates.

        • @[email protected]
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          72 years ago

          Yeah even as a technician that’s one I run on the off chance that it actually does something.

          Which, sometimes it does, just often enough that I wouldn’t call it useless.

    • @[email protected]
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      82 years ago

      My Bluetooth headphones work just fine. Except every time the connect the automatically set the volume to 100%.

      • sadreality
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        Time to collect and send that snap shot to mircoshit so daddy satya nadella can inspect, you know for the children.

        • Final Remix
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          I think either I’m having a stroke or you’re having a stroke, because I don’t understand what’s written here.

    • @[email protected]
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      92 years ago

      I wish they would make their configuration better. At this point even MacOS easier in that regard. And that is saying something. I constantly find myself googling how to open the old configuration pages because it’s either impossible to find where some of the configuration options went or they don’t exist on the new UIs in the first place. It’s a real down grade. They are trying to go the MacOS route but stopped half way through. Windows 11 feels like a real downgrade compared to Windows 10.

    • @[email protected]
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      152 years ago

      Whole thing has to get thrown out and rebuilt, its an ancient bloated mess underneath, but they waited too long and now the entire world relies on it.

      • BarqsHasBite
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        Am I crazy or are they just reskinning old windows? Go deep enough and old windows things pop up in a disjarring manner.

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            I’m not talking that old programs can be run. I’m talking if you dig into the settings deep enough, a Windows 2000 looking screen will pop up out of nowhere.

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              It’s probably because of compatibility. Who knows, maybe that’s the loadbareing UI. It all falls apart if they change it.

            • @[email protected]
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              12 years ago

              I mean control panel still is usable on windows 11. Control Panel has been there since 1985. The UI control panel uses now hasn’t really been changed since Windows 95. There are plenty of other screens like that too, like the hardware properties menus and stuff.

            • @[email protected]
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              92 years ago

              It’s the same thing. Stuff relies on it. And some stuff is just there from laziness. The only Windows being reskinned is 10. That’s what 11 is underneath.

    • Thales
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      592 years ago

      Instructions unclear, advertisements added to start menu 

  • @[email protected]
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    432 years ago

    Nice try, Microsoft, trying to get people to use Windows 11. Just focus on fixing Windows 12 and cut your losses.

  • methodicalaspect
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    I just want it to stop self-destructing every two hours when I’m running it as a VM under Linux.

    • pitninja
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      Assuming it’s precisely at the 2 hour mark, do you have snapshots enabled for that VM? If so, try turning them off.

      • methodicalaspect
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        Nope, no snapshots. The bugchecks in the logs vary with the last two being 0x0a and 0x3b - drivers and memory - but this is on both Stable and Latest virtio drivers and memtest86+ comes up clean on the hardware. I’ve never taken a snapshot of this VM since it’s on my workstation and not for production use.

        What I have noticed, though, is an increase in memory utilization in the VM at idle, likely due to recent group policy changes and application updates (it is domain-joined). I’ll see if increasing the amount of memory allocated will take care of 0x3b.

    • Jess
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      122 years ago

      Wait, what? What happens when you hit the two hour mark? I’d it like one of the router simulators that forces a reboot?

      • methodicalaspect
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        82 years ago

        BSOD for whatever reason. Doesn’t matter, I can resume what I was doing pretty quickly, but it is mildly inconvenient.

    • Programmer Belch
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      I just use windows 10 for VM, it hasn’t crashed for me but I don’t use VMs for more than one or two hours

  • @[email protected]
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    1272 years ago

    So what are the hidden features? The article doesn’t say and I scrolled through all the comments and nothing popped out at me other than a bunch of comments of people bashing windows and sucking their own dicks over Linux?

    • @[email protected]
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      42 years ago

      Afaik it’s a tool to interact with an API to override A/B testing in an official way.
      Apparantly some tool already exists that does it. Just not the official way.

    • Riskable
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      sucking their own dicks over Linux

      This one trick explains why people who use Linux love it so much!

    • @[email protected]
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      232 years ago

      The hidden features are flags that Microsoft enables or disables for random users as part of A/B testing. The article contains a link to the various flags that can be enabled depending on your edition and version of Windows.

    • @[email protected]
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      72 years ago

      This is what i came for, i wanted to know what these features are. Thanks for saving me a click

    • 🦥󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠
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      Windows as an immutable OS will completely trap you within it’s own walled garden. It’s been done and you really don’t want their take on it.

  • @[email protected]
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    Like how to get publicity when you’re using windows media, or delete all non subscription software from the system, or how to make the CPU run at 15% when idle(oh no it’s already a windows 10 feature)…

  • @[email protected]
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    1902 years ago

    The bug bash quests can be found in the Windows Feedback Hub, and partaking in the bug bash often concludes with a badge in the Feedback Hub that acknowledges your participation.

    Imagine doing free QA for a multibillion dollar corporation. I hate Microsoft so much.

    • @[email protected]
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      652 years ago

      No one is forcing you. Actually, you need to jump through many hoops to get into the program. And Microsoft tends to pay nice rewards to people who find critical issues.

        • @[email protected]
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          162 years ago

          Calm down, no one’s getting exploited. Many people like trying out new features that aren’t available yet for stable releases.

        • @[email protected]
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          122 years ago

          Nobody’s being forced into it, you can just decide not to do it. There’s no risk or reward for doing so other than because you want to. There’s no power imbalance. It’s just users deciding they want to do it. It’s not exploitation, haha

          • @[email protected]
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            At best, these people are scabs taking away QA jobs by working for free. If we were talking about a community-driven Free Software project it’d be different, but doing that kind of unpaid labor for a for-profit corporation is toxic and harmful in a systemic way that goes beyond personal choice.

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              Be me. Like a thing. Find issues with thing. Share those issues with the devs. Dopamine. Find better avenue for sharing issues. Do issue finding in my spare time with my own free will. Get shamed on internet for doing my own thing.

              Yeah ok.

  • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶
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    Isn’t this the same as BMW locking away functionality that exists in the product you purchased?

    • Bythe
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      Not at all. It’s to by-pass the A/B testing of features part of the early insiders ring. And as the article says, there are already unofficial tools to do the same thing. Now we just have the ‘official’ command line tool made by MS, nothing more.

  • @[email protected]
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    792 years ago

    Usual info-free article with clickbait headline. Tinfoil-heads will call it a “troll / honey-pot”, designed to attract and identify ‘troublemakers’.

    And from that comment section, it’s working.