I don’t know if others are experiencing a similar situation. My all feed is very sparse with engagement. If I sort top six hours or by top 12 most posts have between 5-10 comments. I feel like there was more in the past? Is engagement dropping off? I’m on lemmy.world as my instance.

  • @[email protected]
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    Honestly, lemmy isn’t that welcoming. Read through comments and you’ll notice most of them are kinda snarky and rude. Look at no stupid questions (idk the name of “subreddits”) you ask a serious questions and almost none of them are on topic just people giving you shit for asking. If you have tech problems it’s “install linux,degoogle,stay away from that brand” for someone new reading through them they’ll probably leave because of the toxic community.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 year ago

        Yea, I try to be as nice as I can on the internet. There’s no reason to be an ass other than you’re miserable and want other people to be as well.

        It’s a mixed bag though, I’ve had some people be assholes but I ignore them if they have nothing of substance to say and focus on the positive communications.

        Also, blocking the Linux communities really helped my feed. Idk what it is about the Linux superiority complex. Although I feel like most of it comes from a good place, the delivery of the information usually isn’t the best.

  • @[email protected]
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    191 year ago

    A part of me feels like the .ml instance is working on behalf of meta and reddit to drive people away.

    Obviously that isn’t what is happening, but when one of the largest instances’ user bases is turning every post into Palestine debates and allowing coordinated harassment against anybody who disagrees with them, clearly people are going to leave.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      71 year ago

      Sir, but have you heard about the Peele commission? Allow me to introduce you to 150 years of Palestine -Israel historical context before we can move on with this discussion about user engagement on Lemmy…

      • @[email protected]
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        91 year ago

        It is really unfair of you to call us abti-semites when we purposefully aren’t using the word Jew when we call for death to Israel.

        /s

  • @[email protected]
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    431 year ago

    When it warms up I tend to spend less time on my devices. This is the case where I live and will be for the next 3-4 months.

  • @[email protected]
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    91 year ago

    Well then let’s increase our engagement! Make some dank memes and post them, create more text content, ask more questions. Just no more weird anime shit, jesus christ

  • @[email protected]
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    141 year ago

    I’ve noticed a downward trend, not necessarily “dropped off suddenly”. One of the most notable signs I’ve seen is from the new comments sort.

    When I’m interested in seeing what’s actually active and where the action is at, one of the things I will do is click to sort by “New Comments” and change my view to Comments. Typically I go to that page, see if any of the headlines or comments catch my attention, then go read or reply.

    In the past couple of months, I’m seeing more and more new comments on that first page of results that are 5+ minutes old. When I get to the bottom of the page and click to refresh the results, there are times now when I don’t even get a full new set of comments because there haven’t been enough new ones to bump the prior comments off the first page.

    That didn’t used to happen much at all, it was rare enough that it really sticks out when it does happen. Typically, the comments on that first page would be anywhere from seconds to maybe 2 or 3 minutes old and every time I hit refresh (I wasn’t spamming the button), I’d have a completely new set of comments to peruse (other than a bug in older versions of Lemmy that would cause some comments to get stuck at the top of that page even when they were significantly older than anything else).

    My overall interpretation of this is that it appears there’s less commenting, at least during the times of day that I tend to be most active on here. Of course that’s not the only possibility. But like OP, I’m noticing a lot fewer posts in those top 6, top 12 filters with lots of comments than I used to see. So, those types of observations do have me thinking things are on a bit of a down trend. It could be a seasonal thing, perhaps a temporary lull.

  • @[email protected]
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    11 year ago

    The problem with Lemmy and with reddit too. Is that conversations Die off or stale too quickly. Reason being most engagement happens with older more upvoted comments. And newer contributions don’t benefit from the same exposure. Which doesn’t give much incentives for people to comment. Which in return deplets the platform of its userbase. Lemmy apps should ship with viewing newer comments by default to combat this. And Lemmy users should also change this setting in their apps.

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      Interesting. I find myself participating more often here instead of Reddit. I’m not sure if it’s because the disinformation is more superficial or the user base is more monological in its thinking.

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    I’m fairly new. Finding it hard to get truly into the experience given some of the more extreme takes that Lemmy seems to allow (or at least some federated servers)

    Seems like Lemmee is sadly becoming a fairly isolated echo chamber for certain opinions only.

    edit: An example of “Extreme takes”. Not linking the post. it’s been upvoted 17 times, and online for 18 hours unmoderated: in the post, the user encourages execution. Murder and destruction of property:

    so, as an actual radical:

    yeah pretty spot on with healthcare. this is basic ‘having a society’ shit.

    I don’t want a job that pays so much as an actual society I can contribute to and nurture and be a fucking part of that will take care of me some noticeable fraction of how I take care of it. I’d rather not have money involved, if its all the same to you.

    I do actually want a free place to live. I’ll help build it or whatever, but I’m fucking done compromising with landlord parasites; watched too many of their victims die.

    I do not want corporations to be unprofitable; I want them dismantled and their boards executed. worker co-ops are cool. individual enterprise is cool. no more exploitation, no more not having a voice.

    I think the entire concept we have of ‘democracy’ is absolutely cucked. I could write some essays on what real democracy looks like, but the short version is: fuck your bourgoise elections.

    kill the billionaires; tjwyre literal monsters who drink children’s blood steal and transfuse the blood of the young to grasp vainly at eternal youth while burning our futures. no problem with your party yacht if its green and you built it with your friends, but I think we need a reset on ‘wealth’.

    Reading shit like that a LOT on this site is a massive turn off to the average user, and why I have a hard time truly diving in and giving a shit about it.

    Edited once more: Bolded the problem points I have with above. My issue is not the message itself, but the words and what this user encourages. Don’t gaslight that the language used in that post was beyond reasonable and encourages violence

    • @[email protected]
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      261 year ago

      Most of that shouldn’t be considered extreme. Yeah “eat the rich” style rhetoric is inflammatory, but the rest is just pretty bog standard leftist stuff. There’s far more extreme stuff on Reddit, on all the political fringes.

      • @[email protected]
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        191 year ago

        You’re literally proving their point. You’re saying “I don’t see anything wrong with this, it’s perfectly normal to me and I’m fine if this kind of thing dominates my feed”. Their entire complaint is how normalized this kind of rhetoric has become and how pervasive it is and your response is basically “this is fine” dog.

      • VindictiveJudge
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        31 year ago

        They believe in the q-anon child blood theft thing. It’s not rhetoric or hyperbole, they literally want to murder people. The ‘eat the rich’ rhetoric isn’t just inflamatory, it encourages people to actually commit violence, whether that’s what you really want them to do or not.

          • VindictiveJudge
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            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon#Child_sex_trafficking_and_satanic_sacrifice

            Added to this is the belief that politicians and Hollywood elites engage in “adrenochrome harvesting”, in which adrenalin is extracted from children’s blood to produce the psychoactive drug adrenochrome.

            One version of the QAnon theory posits that the child abusers use adrenochrome as an elixir to remain young.

            That’s what they’re referencing when they mention drinking children’s blood.

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              You sure? They specifically mention blood transfusion, which is obviously an actual real transfer of blood from the young/healthy(/poor?) to the old/sick(/wealthy?). It’s not clear to me whether “children” is hyperbole or conspiracy.

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      That last paragraph dips into q-anon stuff, too, despite otherwise being extreme left.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 year ago

      All is not a “for you” feed, it contains posts from the whole fediverse. You are supposed to add the filter yourself. Find the communities you are interested in, subscribe and then browse that.

    • @[email protected]
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      You also see this sort of thing about cops. I just learned ACAB, all cops are bastards, today. Which I’m getting increasingly tired of. When you try having a discussion with people they are just as stuck in their ways as the right and don’t realize it.

      Do i think all cops are saints no. But demonizing entire jobs/professions/whatever right wrong or indifferent is the same reason i stopped watching some news. All doom and gloom.

      • @[email protected]
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        I’ve been saying this for quite a while. It’s impossibly to get people on lemmy to understand nuance. I was the same way when I was young which is why I really feel like the average age of a lemmy user has got to be around 16-17 years old.

    • @[email protected]
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      I find it impossible for me to take people like that seriously at all. I keep picturing them as 16 year old kids that recently read an op-ed piece and now thinks they should whine about it to anyone that will listen.

    • @[email protected]
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      101 year ago

      That’s interesting. I came to Lemmy because I want open debate and not moderation which I view as a form of censorship. Interesting to know that not everyone shares that view!

      • @[email protected]
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        141 year ago

        nice attempted rage bate

        There’s a massive difference between sharing views, IE: “I don’t like billionaires”, and Making threatening remarks, or calling to violence (not ok).

        trying to frame me pointing out that calls to violence are NOT a good look for Lemmy, is not me calling out censorship. That’s you trying to rage bate the conversation into some argument about your rights (which ends where my nose begins)

        • aasatru
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          In a favourable reading, “killing” a billionaire is as easy as taking their money away.

          That said, I think the biggest catch-all instances of Lemmy should be defederated from Lemmy.ml and hexbear. The users of these sites just ruin the experience for anyone with half a brain and a less than spectacular appetite for bullshit.

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            I do not want corporations to be unprofitable; I want them dismantled and their boards executed

            Favourable reading my ass.

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    Over the past two months, I’ve noticed a drop in engagement on Lemmy. Communities that used to have a decent amount of new content posted over a week, are now lacking or nonexistent. I’ve noticed this to be highly true with all communities with less than 3k subscribers. I don’t recall the name of the theory, but it was something like ‘community content theory.’ It goes something like this:

    ‘Around 1% of people in an online community will share content and/or try to provide original content. To have this number grow, you have to provide a way for the content posters to continue to post.’

    https://www.psychreg.org/psychology-content-creating-why-we-share-what-we-share/

    • Self-expression and presenting one’s identity/ideal self
    • Seeking social validation through likes, comments, shares
    • Connecting with communities of shared interests
    • Educating others and providing helpful resources
    • The “helper’s high” of gratification from assisting people

    In my experience, the third one rings true most often with people.

    That being said, we should take a look at the kind of communities that are not getting much engagement.

    https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active

    Here we can see the stats for all of the communities across hundreds of instances. (Filters can be applied.)

    What’s surprising to me, is the ratio of subs to active users there are. After a two minute look, I believe I see that there are a few outliers where they have nearly all of the subs active and fewer that have more actives to subs. Most of what I’m seeing is around 1/3 ratio of subs to active users per week, of the best performers. Definitely not the norm.


    I have a few theories as to why this is, but would love to hear from others.

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      21 year ago

      I enjoyed your analysis! I think you meant

      Most of what I’m seeing is around 1/3 [3:1] ratio of subs to active users per week, of the best performers

      Subs being subscribers, and these data possibly providing evidence of there being less engagement of late, per OP’s point

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    I’m not sure I’ve seen this take expressed here before… but here I go. I think the thing I appreciate about Lemmy is that it isn’t absurdly active. Before my switch to Lemmy (from Reddit ofc), I was compulsively checking Reddit for new content every 20 minutes, even taking priority over hyperfixations of mine. I like that there isn’t new content every 20 minutes. It’s like checking your fridge every 20 minutes for new food, and Reddit just keeps feeding you until you’re upset. This place feels like it “restocks” every day so that I don’t feel the need to check it obsessively. It’s improved my relationship with social media entirely. My only issue is the amount of bait, not just in the form of trolls but people riling themselves and others up with politics. I get it, I’m extremely far left too, but god if I come here in hopes of being less anxious I always see something that feels designed to make me angry. It’s less than Reddit but we could all work on considering if engaging is worth it. Learn to appreciate boredom and understimulation and it will change your life, especially those of you like me with an anxiety disorder.

    sorry for the tangent, tl;dr less content actually makes me less anxious and more comfortable and we should learn to appreciate the boredom that comes with that

    • @[email protected]OP
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      You know, I appreciate this take. I’ve felt it too. Since I switched over from Reddit the doom scrolling has gone away. I’ve even started reading more books&comics. Maybe it’s time to appreciate what we have 🙂