Tap the account switcher in the top left corner and you should see the option.
See my comment for a screenshot. I don’t know why I can’t seem to post a screenshot in the body of post. Every time I try it gets removed.
Honestly I think 20 usd is reasonable. I think people here are being weird. That’s like the price of a book or indie game on steam - surely an app that you read on every day is worth that?
Also Lemmy will continue to grow so the value will just increase.
$20? It’s showing $100 for me. I’d do $20. $100 is too rich for my blood
Yeah same. I was debating $20 but definitely not paying $100. Sorry not sorry.
You need to update your app to the new beta. Ad-free only option is separate, does not cost $100+.
I downloaded the app about 20 minutes ago, and Lifetime Ultra is $169.99 for me in Australia. Am I doing something wrong?
Remove ads is its own menu item, clicking it directly shows you the payment prompt.
Ah, so $33.99 here to remove ads.
Are you looking for Ultra lifetime or ad-free lifetime? If you are looking for adsfree lifetime, it’s a different option and obviously not Ultra lifetime. They are not the same.
Removing ads and lifetime ultra are different things.
Where are the ads, anyway? I don’t think Ive seen a single ad yet.
They’re spread out nicely and are just simple picture ads that aren’t trying to grab your attention.
Aaannd… Done.
Amazing work @[email protected]!
Screenshot:
That username masking works really well 😶🌫️
It’s been reported as a bug. I decided to remove that portion of the screenshot.
100% Done
€21.99 in Belgium.
Same in France
it was 12.99 for a hot second if you grabbed it when it first went live. I was thinking about it, but then saw it went to 19.99 just recently. Imma gonna wait.
I saw that, balked a bit and then went eh whatever i like sync so i bought it. I would have reacted differently at $20.
An hour ago I would have sworn it was $16.99. I had to edit a bunch of comments where I told people the price.
Yeah I was gonna grab it at 12.99 but then it got changed. I honestly thought it was gonna be 9.99 but oh well
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People in this thread spending $100++ on SKINS in a video game : 🤑🤑🤑
Same people Spending $20 to support the app you use hundreds of times a day : 😡🤬
Yeah I don’t think people who spend money on skins in games are people who use lemmy and hence by extension sync for lemmy
What’s the logic here? People that buy skins are not enough intelligent to be on lemmy?
My logic is that people that buy skins and play games with such micro transactions must not be bothered by the actions of reddit and hence few of them would have migrated to lemmy
I guarantee you there’s enough overlap. If I look at a League of Legends, lemmy community. You don’t think most of those people have spent hundreds of dollars on skins?
Yeah I don’t know man. The community has like 43 average users a month. So while the subset of people who spend money on skins and care enough about reddits anti consumer like practices is not null, it is small nonetheless.
You can get LoL skins for free, you just have to play a lot. On the other hand, I bought a few skins and bought ad free Sync.
It’s showing up as $169 aud for me (in Australia)
Don’t buy Ultra, just click Remove Ads instead.
Actually I never buy skins for more than like $ 20 dollars either… It’s not worth more to look cool in a game.
I get that developer needs to eat and I kinda fully support it but I think it would be good to have a region based pricing. I think $20 would not be much to a person in US or other first world countries while it would be kinda bit much for people in 3rd world countries (where their currency isn’t strong) like India.
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It would be nice but then everyone would use vpn right?
Then… Don’t buy it? Or use it with ads. Seems simple enough. There’s a ton of other apps to use if you needMy fault I misread what you said. I think regional prices would be great.
Yeah, nah. That’s too pricey to remove ads for a single app.
God forbid you pay $20 once to support the dev and for an app you’ll use 1-2 hours a day for potentially the rest of your life…yet you’ll pay $10 for a streaming service you’ll never touch for months on end…
How is the amount of time you spend on a app a consideration for the price? Using Sync more doesn’t cost the dev any more so not sure why they would be factored into it. It feels like you’re conflating personal value with cost.
My man, I’m not using lemmy 2 hours a day every day for 60 something years
Everyone’s usage is different…but I’m sure many people used Sync for Reddit as much since it was out.
This is why subscriptions are becoming the norm
Last thread was complaints of not wanting subscriptions this thread is complaints of too expensive 🤷. By all means keep the ads or use another app. Imo it’s not super surprising to be pricey when it’s a one time purchase instead of the subscription.
Yeah, and if a year is $16.99, to me $20 for lifetime is a great deal
The sub includes more feature unlocks than just ad removal. The pro unlock doesn’t include user tagging anymore like it did for reddit for example.
Yeah I know
I am not into this that much to pay all that for Ultra lifetime… I got the ultra sub for a year right away and I probably won’t even use all the extra features… Push notifications is cool, that’s how I knew you answered me
If the subscription was $200/year, would you consider $250 for lifetime to be a deal?
I don’t have a clue where you are going with that random hypothetical, but it doesn’t seem to be a productive direction, so I will not answer, I have better things to do with my time lol
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Having paid $6 for reddit sync probably over a decade ago while the dev has maintained and improved the app over those years with no additional money from me, I think I got a pretty good deal. It’s definitely a calculation to make but I don’t think $20 would have been unreasonable a decade ago and I don’t really think it is now. Maybe also dont forget to put some blame on reddit, the dev got fucked there and has to rebuild the customer base that would have included recurring payment customers (unlike me).
Welcome to the internet
“We want this”
“No not like that”
Sync is good enough to get 20 bucks easily. If I wasn’t on iPhone, I would immediately.
You’re not paying to remove ads. You’re supporting the development and making it worthwhile for the developer to continue to create the app.
That it happens to remove ads is just a side benefit. You can remove ads from all apps using a VPN based ad blocker anyway (on android).
I paid €2.51 to remove ads on Sync for Reddit. I would have spent maybe a tenner but it’s over €20 for the Lemmy app. As much as I love Sync, that’s a big nope from me.
The userbase of Reddit is over 10x higher.
That’s quite the understatement. 400 million vs 60,000 monthly active users.
Monthly active users aren’t counted the same. Lemmy only counts people who post or comment. Still a big difference, but 60,000 is not the entire userbase of Lemmy.
But why male models?
I picked 10 cause the price was about 10x higher.
Remember, Lemmy has a lot less active users than Reddit. Even if ALL active Lemmy users on Lemmy.world buy the app at its original $2 price, it’s still not enough to sustain full time development. Both higher one time purchase price and subscription is needed for the app’s survival, even then I’m still not sure if it’s enough for the dev to sustain themselves. I’m getting the ultra subscription for this reason because I don’t want the app to go away, and I encourage people that really like the app to do so as well.
No, we’re paying to remove ads. And $26 CDN to remove ads feels really high when I paid $3.69 to remove ads in Boost and $4.49 to remove ads in Relay in 2019.
I like how you bothered to speak of supporting the dev yet mentioned how to stop ads with a VPN based blocker.
Paying to remove ads is supporting the dev. This is doubly true when you can get no ads without paying (though sync will still have blank spots where the ads were supposed to go).
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It’s a lifetime option. They may well make $20 over the next 10 years.
In 10 years I will have replaced my phone 5 times, so make it $4 for the time I actually use it.
Why does that matter? I’ve replaced my phone 4 times so since I bought sync for reddit, still used the same 7 dollar purchase to the end.
You can keep sync when you get a new phone. It goes with your google account, it’s what the “restore purchases” option is for during the setup.
It’s tied to your Google account, not the phone.
Yes it is steep for me in Quebec with taxes it is 31 $ . But I had the option to use 20$ in google play credits from Google rewards. 11$ is an ok deal. Remember that sync is the first Lemmy app from former Reddit devs and that the developer worked really hard to release it.
I am aware of the scenario. Sync for Lemmy is not just relaunching into a fresh world here. The dev shouldn’t come in with unreasonable pricing. Not when we can use very nice apps such as Connect instead for free, and ad free.
Why not support a FOSS, then?
Sure, but if you’re someone who wants sync specifically (say, if you used it for reddit), then you need to support it if you want it to stay in development.
It’s just really weird to pay twenty dollars to not have ads on a platform that doesn’t inherently have ads - a platform that has been purposefully designed to avoid the needs for ads or the trappings of capitalism. To voluntarily reinfect yourself into that ecosystem seems at best weird, and at worst sort of a violation of what the fediverse is about.
The I have a suggestion, you don’t buy it, simple.
This platform needs money to keep going. If donations do not cover expenses, it will either find funding or just close. So, it may end up using “trappings of capitalism”.
If it’s too expensive (and $20 is too expensive), not enough people will pay and it will close.
At the moment, I have access to half a dozen apps to access the fediverse which are all free as in beer, free as in freedom, free as in ad-free, and perfectly fine quality-wise.So maybe, making this your full time job just isn’t viable at the moment.
The market will definitely speak on this one since the platform itself isn’t monetized and there are tons of other options for those who don’t want to pay that much. If it ends up not being workable, it won’t be workable, and the model will need to adapt or fold.
I’d never pay that much for a phone app, personally, especially on android, because I’ve had apps that change dramatically to the point I no longer like/can use them. It’s a bit better on iOS because the devices are supported a lot longer with OS updates (literally the reason I switched after a lifetime with android flexibility - sick of apps not working and my phones not being supported officially for more than 2 years).
This isn’t to say I won’t pay for things I want and support - I did pay for a Plex lifetime subscription like 9 years ago ($100, it’s 120 now, and a large amount of paying for it is app access, but also managed home users so my close friends/family can be logged in to my account directly without impacting me in any way) because the value was well worth it after subscribing month to month to test it and using the free version for several years prior. The value for what I paid has increased substantially with new features and just simple longevity. The model seems to work well enough for what they provide, both to them and to their users. I can swap to another self-host if it falls apart, but in the 12 or so years I’ve been using it, only a small number of changes have negatively impacted me, and only slightly (tho I paid early, so if features were paywalled after being free, I’m not aware of it, tho they have made some previously paid things free, like plexamp). I can skip server updates and roll them back easily if it stops working with my OS, and my users wouldn’t know the difference for a long time.
This tends not to be the case with mobile apps because devices are constantly changing, and side-loading apks can be a challenge for your average person. It’s a lot less static overall than pc hardware, so app-breaking updates on older mobile hardware are way way more likely. I can’t afford new phones all the time, so that’s a problem to me.
I’m looking at the relative useful lifecycle of the software. If I can get maybe a couple years before my OS version isn’t properly supported to run the app anymore, and it’s difficult to fix without upgrading hardware or rooting and flashing (not something everyone can or wants to do), I probably don’t want it. I turned off automatic app updates for years because of this issue, but they stop working after a while anyway.
I was talking about servers, not client apps.
Regarding the app, yes, $20 is too expensive for just turning off ads. Moon Reader Pro asks $8 for an ad-free experience, and yet I think it’s a bit too much for me. But it’s a market, and demand will correct the price. If nobody pays $20 to disable ads, the devs can consider reducing the price, at least temporarily. So I don’t see any problems here.
As for totally free apps, I consider them as a sort of gift. Some people are giving away the results of their labor for free, maybe because it’s their hobby, or because of ideology, but definitely because they have spare time to work on their apps. But it can change, and active development can stop. The only thing able to motivate them to continue the work is a profit, allowing them to spend some time without sacrificing anything else. We can end up with ads, subscriptions, single-time payments, or maybe just donations. I think it’s inevitable for active projects.
I understand the sentiment. Most devs that release Lemmy apps do so as a side projects. They don’t make money doing it. In fact, they actually losing money and time to work on their side projects. It’s actually amazing how many apps we now have in just a short time.
That being said, Sync developer is one of a few dev who work on a lemmy app full time. This results in higher quality app, even though it’s still in beta right now. But since he’s literally doing this for a living, he’ll need to make some money to continue his work. People was begging for him to make an app for Lemmy, and he actually does it. Whether he’ll continue doing this or not will depends on whether he can make a living or not. And since the market for Lemmy apps is so small, there is no other choice but to charge a higher price to make the calculus works. For a lot of people that rooting for him, paying $20 or $17/year is no brainer if it means they get to have their favorite app working on Lemmy.
If there’s no other choice why is it the only app making that choice? I also don’t think that proprietary closed, profit incentivized systems are inherently better. The kbin PWA app is beyond sufficient.
I’m not saying there is no other choice. Lemmy core devs are paid by a grant to work on Lemmy full time for example. Other apps developers may have a different funding model (donation, or even out of their own pocket), but for Sync, the dev is a commercial app developer so he does what he do best: making a paid app.
The $20 is literally diddly squat for me… Hell I would have donated that just to help him. Life is about personal preference and choices. People who don’t like the $20 just don’t pay it. Other people like would pay it no problem… Those from either side don’t have to attack and demean the others, such conduct is pointless
Sync isn’t the type of app that needs to be worked on full time. It’s an alternate interface of an existing website.
This price is too steep and I will either wait for it to go down or switch to another app when they become more full featured.
So I guess any new updates and features will just release on their own, huh?
The thing that set Sync and Apollo apart from a horde of other 3rd party reddit client apps was due to both dev was working full time on their app, and the quality of those apps prove it. The sync dev has been working full time on lemmy app in the past few weeks, and we can already see how good the app is compared o other lemmy apps.
If Apollo dev were also making a lemmy app, the price would be more or less the same simply due to small lemmy user base. The economy of scale simply is not there yet. The only way those devs can lower the price and still be able to sustain themselves is if lemmy gain a whole lot more total active users.
Yes we are paying to remove ads.
If people want to keep supporting the dev, just buy the subscription or check if he has a donations link. But this purchase is just what it says: Remove Ads.
You’re like, really smart… Nothing gets past you!
Jesus, dude! It’s a one-time payment for lifetime of no adds! Plus you support the developer.
People are spoiled.
Quite the opposite. I already block ads, I want to support the developer. But I don’t want a subscription nor do I want to pay a huge fee for one app. I use a lot of apps and it’s not feasible to pay that much for each one.
$19.94 in Canada
Hmm, why is it showing $31 for me?
Looks to be exchange rates.
We’re all Canadians
Showing 28.34 for me now… weird.
Yeah I’m getting that price too.
What provinces are you two? I wonder if that’s a factor.
Currently in AB
$33.99 AUD. I guess I’ll just wait for Boost.
Why am I seeing $169.99 AUD?
I think that’s the price for the lifetime subscription. The one time payment to remove ads it’s about $20.
For people who REALLY love the app?
I’m happy to pay, mostly as a thank you for the 10 years I spent with Sync on Reddit. LJ is a damn hard working dev and deserves to feed himself.
Yall not have liftoff in the way down under?
22EUR
Any news when it will be published?
Will there be a premium app in the store? I recall the reddit version with IAP periodically having issues with purchases not being recognized. I’d rather spend my money on that then.
This caused major issues with Google before, so I don’t think so.
Google doesn’t permit multiple versions of the same app anymore plus the dev already fixed that issue 1 year ago
Happily, thank you for not forcing a subscription model!
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If it was $5 I’d buy, but $20, yeesh.
Elaborate
They do not value other people’s time and also do not realize that everything on the internet is free because of advertising
The number of users in lemmy is so low compared to reddit. Those who buy this app are way less here. In reddit there were 100k+ downloads. Here it is not even going to be half of it. So price change can be justified.
One point I like to say is yeah this price is too high for some third world countries. Region based pricing should be there. 20$ here is 10% of my income (entry level job). So it will take time for me to buy the app. Until then i support the ad driven model. I am getting far better user experience with this app than all other lemmy apps I have tried.
That is true, however this is not really relevant for buying a product. And an app that relies on ads where you can buy premium for $20 is just that in my eyes, a commercial product, and that is fine. But dividing the costs between all users to estimate a price is weird to me, that’s not how market works and ignores offer and demand. This argument is nothing a potential buyer would consider when buying an app. And $20 is a lot of money especially in todays time. I don’t think I have seen a price like that apart from really big commercial apps. But yeah if you want to support, do that, but consider spending money to your instance instead and using one of the other great apps available.
I’ll be throwing some money to sync and some money to my instance.
You are great my friend.
god, honestly this has kinda turned me off even trying sync at all. liftoff works fine, and these devs are neither asking me for money, nor showing me advertisements.
i sincerely hope no one is out here thinking they’re gonna earn a living with an unofficial-app for a fledgling social media service, for which there currently exists no fewer than ELEVEN other fully featured apps in the google play store.
And that’s a perfectly fine and respectable position to have. In the mean time, I’m gonna go find where I can enter my credit card
hell yeah bro, i’m glad you found a client you like!
I’ve used 5 of them. Not a single one is what I would call “fully featured” compared to the million features I loved in Sync for Reddit. Sync for Lemmy promises to be as good, but for Lemmy. That’s worth money to me. If that doesn’t describe you, or most people, then OK.
i’ve used 3 and none of them were missing features i needed, what are you referring to exactly? lack of messages is something i’ve seen, and i don’t make use of them myself so i admit i wouldn’t notice them missing. what is there beyond that, customization options?
i’m not trying to be a shit by the way, i’m genuinely curious.
- A comment and post draft system. You can save drafts to restore them later. It’s really nice when writing an “effort comment” (kinda like this one) and you want to resume it later.
- When submitting something, it saves a temporary draft in case the submission fails. Several times I wrote a long comment in another Lemmy app and then lost the entire thing when the submission failed.
- A ton of customizations, so many options and view modes. Customizable actions menu. Excellent contextual button.
- Cleanest interface of any app I’ve used.
- Biometric lock for opening the app or changing accounts.
- Masked usernames in the account switcher for privacy when showing the app to someone.
- Can pin favorite communities at the top of the subscriptions panel.
- Separate settings per account. (Kind of a drawback sometimes. It really needs an easier way to sync settings between accounts.)
- Backup all your settings to a file. (Which can be used to sync settings between accounts.)
- Can submit a comment as a different account than the one you’re browsing with. (Useful for a quick reply which you don’t want to make as your official account. I like to keep stuff like politics out of my account that’s associated with my real-person online presence.)
- Long-pressing any setting in the app copies a link to that setting to the clipboard. When pasted in a comment or post, other Sync users can tap the link to go straight to that setting. Useful because there are so many settings!
- All replies to a top-level comment can be collapsed by default with an option. This is great because the top-level replies are the most important, and then you get to choose which conversations to open.
- Each comment has a button to jump to the patent comment, and long-pressing that button jumps to the top-level comment of that thread. This is excellent when a comment thread has hundreds of replies and you’re done with it and just want to collapse the entire thread and read the next top-level comment.
- Speaking of comment navigation, the reddit version had a handy, optional comment navigator UI.
Not sure if it’s here yet.It’s there! - You can search settings. Really nice to find A specific setting fast, or all settings related to “comments”, etc. I just used it to determine that the comment navigator does exist in the version and I just turned it on.
I could probably think of more if I spent more time on it.
Liftoff was the best alternative app I used, but it’s not as customizable. It also had a confusing account switcher. In fact, you didn’t switch accounts at all. You switched instances and had a default account per instance. Switching accounts on one instance required you to open the settings and change your default user for that instance and then switch to that instance. It was even more confusing because you were allowed to change users when viewing the Inbox, but that had no effect on who was actually logged in. I made several comments under the wrong account while using the app because it was so confusing.
golly, lotta good QOL in there! thank you for taking the time to type up this reply, and extra thank you for not talking down at all. people really do be getting spicy about this lol
I’ve got some more.
- You can long-press (and hold) a thumbnail to peek at the full image it came from without loading the link in the browser. Sometimes I see an interesting pic like some recipe, and I just want a closer look without loading the entire recipe site. Also works great to see YouTube thumbnails in detail.
- You can change the default feed from Local, Everything, Subscriptions, or even a single community (per account).
Here’s a partial screenshot of the image peeking:
