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and that is a perfectly valid business strategy! use free software to push paid services! basically most people in the FOSS space do that, look at redhat!

except hes not using free software and on top of that he adds ADS to a service that doesnt have any. thats the scummy part.

You are entitled to make any assumptions you want about my choice. I’m glad you have your criteria for choosing the platforms and apps you like, and I celebrate that.

Unfortunately, you don’t really know my reasoning for my choice of platform and app, so telling me to go to Reddit based on your mis-assumptions about why I like Lemmy and Sync really highlights the core issue here.

Anyway, good luck to you bud. I hope you have a great Friday.

This type of comment and attitude is what reeks in FOSS. Really unfortunate.

Fuck right off with the gatekeeping you melt of a man child.

You are using lemmy because it’s FOSS, because it doesn’t commercialise anything, because its decentralised.

• nothing wrong with that

• nothing wrong with that

• the data collection modules have not been initialized in the Sync code

But continue evangelizing.

At the federal minimum wage in the US, it’s a little under three hours of work. Assuming full time work, that would be .14% of the gross income for the year. As a nonrecurring purchase, that seems low cost to me.

I didn’t say I don’t support the infrastructure,and it’s an incorrect inference you make of my preferences. My position is “yes pay for UX.” My (unstated) position is also “yes, pay for infrastructure, but be willing to move instead of being tied to hosts”

You seem to infer that bc I am willing to pay for UX, I’m against paying for the servers, which simply isn’t true or what I said.

I didn’t say any of that. I am saying I care about the UX first. I don’t use meta/Twitter/alphabet social products for these reasons.

I would like to see instances also get a funding mechanism to support them without corporate overlords.

That’s for sure. Yikes. So much outrage it seems like. Idk.

Then we shall upload the dev to a computer so it does not need to eat.

First off, you say the rest of us. Do you support lemmy financially yourself? (Genuine question, not trying to call you our or anything)

But that same thing can be said about all open-source software. I don’t fully get your point. The reason the whole sync thing feels wrong to me is just because all that expensive fancy stuff, whether server hosting or the framework and protocol itself, isn’t the service you’re paying for. All that is free for the end user. Paying for essentially just the UI seems odd. It’d be like having a desktop environment for Linux that’s paid only.

I think the majority of people who demand software cost $0 are hobbyists who write code themselves, but it bothers them that not all developers share their passion. I’ve written a little code and some 3D models that I’ve released under Apache2 / CC-BY, but the vast majority of the code I’ve written in my life was done in exchange for a paycheck.

Yup, I remember the core-js debacle, one dude literally supporting the entirety of the internet, tried everything he could just to get some funding from literally anyone, that was the 40 dollar mark I got, he got 40 dollars to maintain core-js. I’m sure even Lemmy here uses it.

He would receive threats on his github on this project he started for fun saying there were bugs, or they needed features, and he said he even received death threats for just asking for funding. Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, and Google all use core-js but none of them gave him anything for using it anywhere. He even asked them all if he could just come work for them and maintain corejs since they all use it so heavily, none of them responded. So he just gave up, and said basically screw everyone, no one wants to support me, my family has sacrificed too much for this project that no one wants to pay for, and he got a real job and stopped updating core-js.

It’s a sad story. Everyone here loves to praise FOSS, and if we lived in the Federation we’d be able to support FOSS simply by using it, but if you’re using it and not supporting the developers then you’re not truly a FOSS supporter. I’m really honestly ashamed with how people here have acted in this thread, principals are great but so few are willing to put their money where their mouth is. The donation button for Lemmy devs is right at the top, how many people in this thread have even clicked on it, let alone donated?

If you think more ads is the solution that’s good for you. Ads are society’s cancer, so I have little choice other than to block it. (Paying to get rid of ads perpetuates the idea that ads are profitable. That’s up to you.)

Where did you read that he was adding something to fund instances?

I’ve been on open source since the early 90s. I know damn well how people make money off of it and who makes money off of it.

I support none of it if it starts including tracking and ads. It goes against the whole mindset. Google fanboys love it though.

It’s either a pizza or a Taco Bell menu item

Maybe it was a tongue-in-cheek recursive acronym

That’s fine as your opinion, but it’s not a popular one. Many people tried lemmy and left almost immediately because they want a better UI. We come from the old usenet boards so we know what UI was like back then, but now people expect a great UI/UX to use a service. So yes, I understand the principals, but we shouldn’t demonize people who pay money for a better experience, and if you’re a developer I’m sure you know that a good UX costs some money, but a great UX costs a lot of money.

I’m all for FOSS (currently working at a company that contributes heavily to FOSS) and am a huge supporter/contributor of FOSS, but the level of entitlement and superiority complex that I’ve seen from many in the FOSS community (including yours) is highly unappealing, and at times frankly revolting. That’s what truly reeks and stains FOSS.

I live inside your walls oO